Sponsoring husband from Morocco

[goatlove]

thank's goatlove,
for your beautiful word ,they encourage me ,may allah maked easy for y also ,because i start to be nervous for the next week inchaelah

Ameen.

Mabrook okhti!!!! :-*
You will do great inshaAllah! Allah be with you.
they always seem to only give one week or sometimes even less notice for an interview!! Can you please tell us which date in May your file got transferred to Rabat? Just so we have an idea of how far ahead you are of us. I got AOR May 31st and the sponsorship approval June 3rd.

mabrook again and inshaAllah everything will be great ;D

 

[amira041]

i hope soo jomz,iam from fez city.i think also that they send this letter for a lot of people ,garant that mean my husband ,he can send to him by fax his document passeport and his visa....;but he already sent to me today by email and i will print ,the pic also i will print inchaelah again.

 

[amira041]

allah ybarek fik okhti goatlove,
yes ,my files was in rabat in the begining of may ,i don't know exactly ,but my husband he tell me i remember 5or6may.

 

[ArlJam]

thank you amira041 for sharing the informations with us

make sure to know everything about your husband's life history, his past & present and what is your future's plans together.. and what is his work and make sure to know about his family, the dates of your events together etc etc.. and if you never read the questions that they ask on the interview, make sure to ask so we can show u the questions that they ask for most of people who they interviewed them

best of luck, and Allah iwaf9ek again

 

[jomz]

quick question.

Past relationships (specifically in Islam). What are your thoughts about sharing this with your husbands/wives? Me and my husband never discussed past relationships, I assume he had girlfriends in the past but I never asked, he hasn't shared any details, and to be honest this is not something that should be discussed specifically in accordance with Islam. For sisters who converted, same thing, I believe you should never reveal details about your sins to your future husband or your now husband.

All perfect praise be to Allaah, The Lord of the Worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, and that Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) is His slave and Messenger.

Here is some information you may need showing the exact reasons why you or your spouse may not know about your past relationship, if any.

The following matters should be mentioned:

Committing sins openly is a grave major sin, and the Quran pointed to this, Allaah Says (what means): {And leave [i.e. desist from] what is apparent of sin and what is concealed thereof.}[Quran 6:120] The interpreters of the Quran said that ‘what is apparent' is the open sin, and ‘what is concealed' is the hidden sin, and it is also said that what pertains to the limbs is what is apparent and what pertains to the heart is what is concealed. Indeed, Allaah destroyed previous nations when they committed sins openly and underestimated the punishment of Allaah.

In addition to this, the noble Sunnah clarified the punishment of those who commit sins openly, as the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) said: "All my nation will be forgiven except those who openly disclose their sins." [Al-Bukhaari and Muslim] The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) then mentioned that an example of disclosing one's sins is that he commits a sin at night under Allaah's covering, and in the morning he goes and says (to people): “I did such and such a sin last night.”

In fact, this severe threat applies to whoever speaks out about a sin while boasting of having committed it, or out of luring others to commit it, but the person who speaks about it out of ignorance or asking the scholars to issue for him a Fatwa about what he did, then he is not included in this threat. The Fiqh Encyclopedia reads: “Disclosing one's sin out of ignorance is not like disclosing it out of boastfulness. Ibn Hajar may Allaah have mercy upon him said: 'If a person intends to disclose the sin and make it public, he angers his Lord.' Besides, Al-Khateeb Ash-Shirbeeni may Allaah have mercy upon him said: 'Speaking about one's sin for fun is absolutely forbidden.'”


Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the World; and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.

Zina is a major sin and Allah warned us against it. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {And come not near to the unlawful sexual intercourse. Verily, it is a Fâhishah [i.e. anything that transgresses its limits (a great sin)], and an evil way (that leads one to Hell unless Allâh forgives him).} [17:32].

If you have committed this sin, repent to Allah, feel very sorry for what you have committed and promise Allah never to come back to this sin again. If you do this know that Allah accepts the repentance of those who repent to Him. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {Say: "O 'Ibâdî (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allâh, verily Allâh forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.} [39:53].

Never tell what you have done to anybody. Since Allah has covered your sin so do not reveal it to anybody. The Prophet said: "Whoever commits any of these bad acts, he should screen himself with the cover of Allah and never reveal it as whoever discloses to us what he has committed we will apply retributive measures on him

So, if anybody wants to marry you do not mention to him what you have committed.
Malik reported in his Book of Hadith that a man offered to marry the sister of another. The latter told the former that his sister committed Zina before. When Caliph Omar Ibn Al Khattab ( may Allaah be pleased with him) heard the news he called the brother of the girl and said to him angrily: "Who told you to disclose this information?"

If someone wants to marry you do not tell him anything about your past sins unless he makes it a condition from the very beginning that he wants to marry you only if you are virgin. In this case, you could tell him that you are not accepting his offer without disclosing to him the reason. You should also pray to Allah as much as you can. Ask Him for forgiveness.

DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS PLEASE REMEMBER THAT TO DISCLOSE YOUR PAST SINS IS EVEN A BIGGER SIN. Allah knows best.

 

[simple9999]

Original post:

Hi All:

I am a Canadian citizen (born in Pakistan) and married to my wife (Moroccan born and citizen of Morocco) since May 2011. My first application to sponsor my wife was refused and I withdrew the application for full-hearing after the ADR. Than I tried to settle in Morocco but difficult to find work there, and came back to Canada and re-submitted the application for sponsorship and waiting to be able to start my life, I hope for the best this time, its way too difficult and traumatic for both of us to live apart.

Here are my timelines:

Timeline for 1st sponsorship Application:

Application sent to Mississauga: June 2011
Application Transferred to Rabat: September 2011
e-CAS status changed to "Medical Results have been received": January 2012
Interview: March 2012 (Refusal letter received via email next day)
Appealed: March 2012
ADR Hearing: September 2012 (Refused and proceeded to full hearing in November 2012, but I withdrew the application in October for full hearing)

Timeline for second sponsorship application:
Application sent to Mississauga: June 2013
Application Transferred to Rabat: July 2013

In the first week of August 2013, requested for copy of Marriage Certificate and translation from Rabat even though it was submitted with the application along with the certified translation when the application was sent to Mississauga

e-CAS status changed to "Medical Results have been received": Late August 2013


Please share your experience or comments, thanks.

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Quote from: simple9999 on November 08, 2013, 06:43:33 am
Thanks for the link.

They think that I and my wife married very quickly after knowing each other for 3 months, I explained to them that 3 months is not a short period of time even if I compare that to Pakistani culture where I am originally fromwhere people get married in just 1 day even without knowing, plus the interviewer in Rabat said that we only talk for 2-3 minutes even though I provided the documents that we talk at least for 1 hr minimum everyday, I proved that at the ADR but Alhamdulillah, everything is in the hands of Allah Subhanahu wa ta ala, I hope this time they will give insha Allah.

When is your interview? If you would like I can send you the list of questions they asked my wife in Rabat and they asked me in ADR.


You think they would know being in a Muslim country that as Muslims, it's very well known to marry sooner than later. That must have been a difficult time for you two but it's good to see you have your trust in Allah. He will help you and has promised you that after hardship comes ease. They haven't given us an exact date for the interview yet.. we just know it's coming soon. Maybe within the next month inshaAllah. A sister on the moroccan thread said she got called for an interview this morning for next week. Her application reached Rabat May 2013.

oohh that would be great! I'm sure it help so many of us with upcoming interviews. We would all really appreciate it if you could share the list of questions at her interview. Please post them on the link I gave you or here. That would be a great help.

May Allah bless you and your wife brother. Ameen.

Assalamu Alaykum


Thanks goatlove for your kind words, Insha Allah this time they will give, I will post the questions they asked at Rabat my wife during the interview tomorrow insha Allah, My wife's sister also was married to Canadian after we got married and the interviewer asked the same questions set of questions (my sister-in-law interview was after our interview in December last year) and Alhamdulillah she got the visa and now she is in Canada, Alhamdulillah. I am at work right now, insha Allah I will post it tomorrow. Yes I think, also my lawyer as I work with a lawyer who is my friend as well, thinks that there might an issue because of my beard, some of the questions the interviewer asked me in ADR in Vancouver reflected that attitude from CIC, anyways its from Allah so I never loose hope, insha Allah.

 

[simple9999]

Assalamu Alaykum amira041

May I ask where is your husband originally from? as the questions in the interview will depend on that?

Also, make sure you take all the call logs, chats, sms, new photos, any new visits he made to morocco during your relationship (e.g. tickets, hotel stays, Exit/Entry stamps) facebook communication, photographs, family, photos, etc., the more you take is better and just relax and answer in calm manner and in positive manner, My wife and I did mistake and we answer some questions in negative manner thats maybe one of the reason we got it refused, anyways, May Allah grant you success and join you with your husband, Aameen.

 

[simple9999]

Assalamu Alaykum

I found the questions they asked me during ADR, here is the list of questions:

1. Did you read the record?
2. Why the application was refused?
3. When did you have first contact with your wife?
4. Where does your friends lives?
5. Do you want to make any correction in the record?
6. When was the interview?
7. When did you go to visit her? – post marriage
8. How long did you stay in Nov?
9. What did you do during the stay?
10. How many nights you spent in Hotel(s)?
11. Who went with you to Hotel(s)?
12. Did anyone else go with you on these trips?
13. Did any family member of yours go with you in November?
14. How long did you stay in April?
15. Where did you stay?
16. What did you do during this trip?
17. Any family member went with you?
18. Did your family show you any other match before this girl?
19. Why not?
20. How did your family found this girl?
21. When did your family speak with these friends?
22. Did your family look any match for you in Canada?
23. Did your friends introduce any other match for you?
24. How long you know these friends?
25. Who introduce these friends to your parents?
26. Didn’t your parents ask other friends or family relatives for a match, whom they know since long time?
27. Why not?
28. When did you reach there in May?
29. Describe?
30. Was your marriage arranged before May or when you first met her in person?
31. Did her mother and your parents talk before you went?
32. There is a visa officer’s concern of small gathering, why is that?
33. Did you have any party? Small or big?
34. Who do you live with now?
35. What do your parents do?
36. What do your brothers do?
37. Where do they live?
38. Are they married?
39. Who do your wife lives with?
40. Just her mom?
41. Since when she lives with her mother?
42. What she do in Morocco?
43. When she finished study?
44. Is she taken classes in English?
45. Why she is taking English classes?
46. Explain me what’s sort of problems are in her family?
47. Does your wife speak to your family?
48. How many brothers live with you in Canada?
49. Does your wife talk with your brothers?
50. Why not?
51. Have you talked with your brother’s wives?
52. When did your brothers got married?
53. When your brother did got married in India?
54. Who arranged your brother’s marriage?
55. Did your parents attend your brother’s marriage?
56. Did you attend your brother’s marriage?
57. Did your sister attend your brother’s marriage?
58. Both brothers’ marriages were arranged by parents and within your family?
59. Did anyone else go with your on your honeymoon?
60. What are your plans, when your wife comes to Canada?
61. What would she do in Canada?
62. Where did she live when she comes to Canada?
63. Where will your brothers wives will live?
64. How is your parents’ health?
65. Do you socialize with ypur friends?
66. How often you meet them?
67. Does your wife contact them too?
68. Do you want to say anything?

I will post the other questions tomorrow insha Allah.

 

[simple9999]

Rabat Questions - English

1. When and where did you meet your spouse for the first time?

2. How did you meet your spouse?

3. How old is your spouse? What is your spouse's birth date?

4. What does your spouse do for a living?

5. Where did your spouse go to school'?

6. What degrees or formal training does your spouse have?

7. How did your spouse immigrate to Canada?

8. Where does your spouse work?

9. What is the name of the company? What position does your spouse hold? How long has your spouse worked there?

10. What does the job entail?

I l. Does your spouse like his or her job?

12. What is the salary?

13. Where does your spouse live?

14. Whom does your spouse live with?

15. Where are you going to live when you go to Canada?

16. Please explain the type of relationship you have had since your first meeting.

17. What is your religion?

18. What is the religion of your spouse?

18. When you and your spouse were dating what would you do together?

19. Do you have any hobbies? Describe them.

20. Does your spouse have any hobbies? Describe them.

21. What type of music do you enjoy?

22. What type of music does your spouse enjoy?

23. What kind of movies do you enjoy?

24. What kind of movies does your spouse enjoy?

25. What kind of books do you read?

26. What kind of books does your spouse read?

27. Have you and your spouse ever exchanged gifts? Explain.

28. When and where did the marriage proposal take place?

29. Was your marriage arranged?

30. If it was arranged describe how it was arranged and by whom?

31. Did you have a ceremony celebrating your relationship?

32. Where was it held?

33. When was it held?

34. Describethe ceremony?

35. Did it conform to your own religious and cultural beliefs? Explain.

36. When did you get married?

37. Where did you get married?

38. Who was at the wedding?

39. What family members were there?

40. How many people were at the ceremony?

41. What day was the ceremony held on?

42. Who performed the ceremony?

43. Do you have pictures of the ceremony?

44. Who was at the ceremony from your side?

45. Who was at the ceremony from your spouse's side?

46. Were any friends present?

47. How many brothers and sisters does your spouse have?

48. Were your parents at the wedding? If not, why not?

49. Are your parents aware of the wedding? If not, why not?

50. Where your spouse's parents at the wedding? If not, why not?

51. Were your spouse's parents aware of the wedding? If not, why not?

52. Was a reception held? When and where was it held?

53. Who was present at the reception?

54. Did you receive any wedding gifts? Describe them.

55. Did you on a honeymoon? Where did you go and for how long?

56. Can you show me pictures and receipts from the honeymoon, wedding and reception?

57. Have you or your spouse been married before?

58. Why was that relationship dissolved?

59. Do you have any children from your current relationship or marriage?

60. How many children?

61. What are the names and birth dates?

62. Where are the children now?

63. Who looks after the children?

64. Do any other family members reside with you and your spouse? If yes, please indicate their names and relationship.

65. What relatives do you have in Canada?

66. What are their names and where do they live?

67. What relatives do you have outside of Canada?

68. Has your spouse met any of your relatives or friends? Who have they met and when did they meet them?

69. Have you met any of your spouse's relatives or friends? Whom have you met and when did you meet them?

70. In terms of education, would you say that you and your spouse's educational background are compatible?

71. What will you do when you go to Canada'?

72. Why did you marry your spouse?

73. Since your marriage have you seen your spouse? If not, why not?

74. Do your family members (parents, siblings) want to immigrate to Canada?

75. Did you marry your spouse so that you could sponsor your parents as landed immigrants of Canada?

76. How do you correspond with your spouse?

77. How often do you talk on the phone?

78. Do you have phone bills, e-mails, cards, etc., and can I see them?

79. Tell me why this marriage or relationship is genuine.

80. What makes your relationship with your spouse different from that of a female/male friend?

81. Does your spouse support you financially?

82. Do you support your spouse financially?

83. If I refuse this application what will you do?

 

[simple9999]

Rabat Questions - Arabic

ما اسمك? وكم عمرك? هل سبق لك الزواج? هل لديك أولاد?
ما اسم زوجك? وكم عمره? هل سبق له الزواج? هل لديه أولاد?
كيف تم اللقاء بينكما? ومتى تم? وكم مدة اللقاء?
كم مرة جاء إلى المغرب? وكم المدة?
هل حضرت عائلته? ان كان لا لماذا?
لماذا تزوجت من هناك?
كيف اقتنعتي بالزواج منه وهو مختلف الجنسية واللغة والتقاليد والعادات?
لماذا تزوج من المغرب?
ما عمله? وكم مبلغ الراتب الشهري?
مع من يقيم?
كم عدد أفراد أسرته? ما أسماؤهم?
لماذا لم تتزوجي من المغرب?
هل لديك عمل?
هل تفكرين بالعمل هناك?
هل رأيت عائلته? هل تكلمينهم?
هل قمتم بمراسيم الزفاف?ان كان لا فلماذا?
كم عدد أفراد الحضور?
هل حضر أصدقاء?ان كان لا فلماذا?
هل أعطاك هدايا?ماهي?
هل أعطيته هدايا? ماهي?
هل يعطيك راتبا شهريا?كم?
هل تم المعاشرة بينكما?أين?
كم دخل أسرتكم الشهري?
كيف تعيشين هنا?
هل لديكم منزل? كم عدد الغرف?
أين ذهبتم بعد الزواج?
هل سبق لك وخرجت خارج المغرب?
متى تم عقد الكتاب?
هل لديك أحد هناك في كندا?
عند مجيئه للمغرب أين تستقروا?​

 

[goatlove]

shukran bezaaaf for taking the time to post all the questions in both Arabic and English. I'm sure lots of people will benefit from this inshaAllah. Jazak Allah khayr.

Alhamdulillah, that's great your sister in law is in Canada already
inshaAllah your wife will be next. ;D

which questions did your wife answer negatively and why if you don't mind me asking ?

Thanks again for sharing your story with us and giving us lots of advice.

barakallahu feek.

 

[amira041]

thank's a lot simple9999,
you help soo much with question ,may allah bless you and maked easy for you and your wife and inchaelah y wife will take visa also,ان الله مع الصابرين
i want ask you please ,i have choose they send me email in frensh,and they do it,and i have shoose to interview in arabic ,do y think they will ask me in arabic or my morocco language?i will inchaelah answer them in positive manner,thank's for your advice ,jazak allah khayran

 

[Terry73]

Thank you so much for the questions, it helps so much to prepare for the interview. Not so worried now, well as much anyways. Good luck to everyone again and thinking of all of you.

 

[ArlJam]

thank's a lot simple9999,
you help soo much with question ,may allah bless you and maked easy for you and your wife and inchaelah y wife will take visa also,ان الله مع الصابرين
i want ask you please ,i have choose they send me email in frensh,and they do it,and i have shoose to interview in arabic ,do y think they will ask me in arabic or my morocco language?i will inchaelah answer them in positive manner,thank's for your advice ,jazak allah khayran

Salam sister,

what is the language that you're using to speak with your husband? because as I read several times on this forum and even on appeals, it is better to make your interview with the language that you use it with your husband so they can see that you speak it well and you have no language barrier with your husband. because they will wonder, why you did choose Arabic while you speak with your husband by different language (French or English)

and for your question, if you decided to have it by Arabic language.. then it will be by Moroccan language cos as i did read on this forum there is a Moroccan lady that does interviewing people beside a Canadian lady (I am not sure if they still now or they changed them).

best of luck for thursday insha'Allah, Allah iwaf9ek

 

[CLAUDIA P]

Best of luck to your partner in the interview. Remember every case is different but the questions are the same for everybody. Good luck to everyone!!!! I hope all of you and your husband/wife will be together soon!!!!