Reasons for Rejection

[ETE]

You also need to check new rules or amended rules especially just before you submit as you are bound by the rules as at date and time of submission.

For example, somebody might be refused because their PC was obtained before they relocated to another country, if they didn't know the PC rules changed slightly in April.

Can you explain what you mean?

From CIC website this is what it says about the PC
1.For the applicant's current country of residence, the PC must be issued no more than six months before submission of the e-APR.
2.For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the PC must be issued later than the departure date of the last time the client resided in that country for more than six months.

From my own understanding and from what a seasoned immigration lawyer told me in relation to number 2, it means if for example i was in Canada for a year and i then went back to my home-country, then i came back for holiday in Canada say May this year, during which time i got ITA and decided to get a PC for Canada before leaving in october. This would mean that the PC is still valid, in as much as i haven't stayed in Canada for more than 6 months.

 

[Pippin]

My question is similar to that of ETE. Example: Indian moved to Singapore and obtained Indian PCC. He goes back for a two week visit to India then returns to Singapore and gets ITA. Would this short visit to India mean he has to get a new Indian PCC? I am assuming the answer is No as the visit was less than 6 months. Do I have it right?

 

[ETE]

My question is similar to that of ETE. Example: Indian moved to Singapore and obtained Indian PCC. He goes back for a two week visit to India then returns to Singapore and gets ITA. Would this short visit to India mean he has to get a new Indian PCC? I am assuming the answer is No as the visit was less than 6 months. Do I have it right?

I think you are right.

 

[sam_172452]

Hello all,

do you guys think a refusal for a temporary resident visa could impact the result of the PR application?

Taking into consideration that the reason was that the applicant was unable to prove strong ties to his/her country.

 

[kryt0n]

I've got a rejection for a work visa and I am applying. I was rejected because there was no answer from an lmia in time. Just be honest.

 

[Pippin]

Hello all,

do you guys think a refusal for a temporary resident visa could impact the result of the PR application?

Taking into consideration that the reason was that the applicant was unable to prove strong ties to his/her country.

I expect many have been denied TRV for lacking proof of ties. Many refusals are economic (no employment, minimal bank balance, no assets like property, etc.) Thinking along this line, I would want to be absolutely sure that my proof of funds could not be questioned. Have them safely in an account and be able to show that they are yours.

 

[sam_172452]

I expect many have been denied TRV for lacking proof of ties. Many refusals are economic (no employment, minimal bank balance, no assets like property, etc.) Thinking along this line, I would want to be absolutely sure that my proof of funds could not be questioned. Have them safely in an account and be able to show that they are yours.

When they deny someone they usually say that they are not satisfied the person will leave Canada. Would they not think someone was trying to trick them when they apply for a PR after a TRV?

 

[Pippin]

Yes but they don't think the person will leave because their prospects are better in Canada than home country. That's why they emphasize your proof of ties. Applying for PR is different. You want to stay so all those previous refusals Have little bearing unless refusal was for Health or safety reasons and you can make
The required proof of funds. People's needs change and what was originally a visit can change to PR. It would be nice if everyone could visit before making the decision.

 

[Ibyt]

Can you explain what you mean?

From CIC website this is what it says about the PC
1.For the applicant's current country of residence, the PC must be issued no more than six months before submission of the e-APR.
2.For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the PC must be issued later than the departure date of the last time the client resided in that country for more than six months.

From my own understanding and from what a seasoned immigration lawyer told me in relation to number 2, it means if for example i was in Canada for a year and i then went back to my home-country, then i came back for holiday in Canada say May this year, during which time i got ITA and decided to get a PC for Canada before leaving in October. This would mean that the PC is still valid, in as much as i haven't stayed in Canada for more than 6 months.

Please note that i used the word "relocated" and not visit.

For example, An Indian received ITA while in India and relocates before making the application, he decides to apply for PC before leaving India which seems logical as it would be easier. PC is not valid as PC date needs to have the date after he relocates because of new rule change.

 

[dobes]

Please note that i used the word "relocated" and not visit.

For example, An Indian received ITA while in India and relocates before making the application, he decides to apply for PC before leaving India which seems logical as it would be easier. PC is not valid as PC date needs to have the date after he relocates because of new rule change.

Well, not quite. The Indian PC would be valid for 6 months only, if the person got it before s/he left India. If s/he waited until after leaving India, it would be valid indefinitely.

 

[Ibyt]

Well, not quite. The Indian PC would be valid for 6 months only, if the person got it before s/he left India. If s/he waited until after leaving India, it would be valid indefinitely.

So regarding PC I found this on CIC website,

For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the PC must be issued later than the departure date of the last time the client resided in that country for more than six months.


What does this mean then?

 

[Asivad Anac]

So regarding PC I found this on CIC website,

For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the PC must be issued later than the departure date of the last time the client resided in that country for more than six months.


What does this mean then?

It means that if you last stayed in a particular country for more than 6 months in, say, 2009 (and have a PCC from that country dated anytime between 2009 and now) and then whether you never visited that country again OR you went back to that country any number of times between 2009 and now but never stayed back for more than 6 months at a stretch, your existing PCC is valid.

Hope that clarifies.

 

[Ibyt]

Exactly my point Asivad (if you read my previous post).

Dobes is saying that your PC would be valid if you got it just before you relocated to another country.

Let me explain my point again:

You got ITA 20th June

You relocated to Canada 28th June 2015 from England

If your PCC for England has 27th June as the date on it, then it is invalid.

According to the point I highlighted; ( the PC must be issued later than the departure date of the last time the client resided in that country for more than six months).


If your PCC has 29th June, then it is valid.

 

[dobes]

Exactly my point Asivad (if you read my previous post).

Dobes is saying that your PC would be valid if you got it just before you relocated to another country.

Let me explain my point again:

You got ITA 20th June

You relocated to Canada 28th June 2015 from England

If your PCC for England has 27th June as the date on it, then it is invalid.

According to the point I highlighted; ( the PC must be issued later than the departure date of the last time the client resided in that country for more than six months).


If your PCC has 29th June, then it is valid.

Again, I disagree. If you "relocate" to Canada 28th June from England with only an ITA in your pocket, you are not "resident" in Canada, but are still "resident" in the UK. You are only a visitor or temporary resident in Canada (depending on the country you come from). Your PC is valid for 6 months and, given that you have 60 days to submit your application, will be valid at the time you submit your application for permanent residence.

 

[rajanvnv]

I didn't either and initially freaked out about it, until I started to read the posts by the people getting rejected saying that it was the cause of the reject. It seems that in most cases, it wasn't the missing ECA, it was that something else wasn't correct. Examples were, they didn't upload the original diploma or certificate, just the ECA, or they didn't get the ECA for all the degrees they listed in the application.
After realizing that, I relaxed quite a bit. You don't need to upload the ECA. They only ask for it if they can't verify the ref numbers you provide or if they are just double checking because they want to make sure it's real and not fraudulent. So don't worry yet. There have been quite a few people who have gotten PPR without having to upload the ECA or langauge tests.

AshesNdust,
Examples were, they didn't upload the original diploma or certificate, just the ECA, or they didn't get the ECA for all the degrees they listed in the application.
I have completed a diploma, bachelors and Masters after my schooling (after 10th grade). I have ECA done for bachelors and Masters. I did not do ECA for diploma but it is mentioned in the education section of EE profile. Will CIC reject my application as there is no ECA for my diploma, Please clarify.