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Ibyt said:
Please note that i used the word "relocated" and not visit.

For example, An Indian received ITA while in India and relocates before making the application, he decides to apply for PC before leaving India which seems logical as it would be easier. PC is not valid as PC date needs to have the date after he relocates because of new rule change.
Thanks for the clarification. The key word is "relocated".
But then again, if i visited or let's say did a part time study at that same country (using canada from my previous example) for 8 months, would that make my previously obtained PCC valid?
 

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rajanvnv said:
AshesNdust,
Examples were, they didn't upload the original diploma or certificate, just the ECA, or they didn't get the ECA for all the degrees they listed in the application.
I have completed a diploma, bachelors and Masters after my schooling (after 10th grade). I have ECA done for bachelors and Masters. I did not do ECA for diploma but it is mentioned in the education section of EE profile. Will CIC reject my application as there is no ECA for my diploma, Please clarify.
Are you sure anyone has been rejected for not doing ECA on all degrees? Please be sure as I haven't seen any on this forum. CIC says highest qualification.

Plus you seem to be asking rather than making a contribution.

I might be wrong tho.
 

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ETE said:
Thanks for the clarification. The key word is "relocated".
But then again, if i visited or let's say did a part time study at that same country (using canada from my previous example) for 8 months, would that make my previously obtained PCC valid?
So after this conversation, I have concluded that this issue is individual specific.

In the example you stated above, if the previous country is the Individuals nationality, then Ild like to think the PCC will be valid.


In Dobes explanation, If you have Englands PCC ( I say England because the UK countries have slightly different rules regarding PCs) and you are not British, then you might no more be a resident because of visa expiry.
Please note the word "relocate", when you relocate, you are now a resident of the country you are. I only used Canada as an example, this could apply to another country that issues PR .
 

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Ibyt said:
So after this conversation, I have concluded that this issue is individual specific.

In the example you stated above, if the previous country is the Individuals nationality, then Ild like to think the PCC will be valid.


In Dobes explanation, If you have Englands PCC ( I say England because the UK countries have slightly different rules regarding PCs) and you are not British, then you might no more be a resident because of visa expiry.
Please note the word "relocate", when you relocate, you are now a resident of the country you are. I only used Canada as an example, this could apply to another country that issues PR .
Yeah i knew you weren't only referring to Canada and yes i think its individual specific.
 

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Ibyt said:
Are you sure anyone has been rejected for not doing ECA on all degrees? Please be sure as I haven't seen any on this forum. CIC says highest qualification.
Plus you seem to be asking rather than making a contribution.
I might be wrong tho.
Ibyt/ Asivad and Other Senior Boarders,
Thanks for your reply Ibyt.
Can you please point me to the form/manual which says ECA needs to be done for highest qualification. I want to make sure I am not rejected this time. I applied for FSW last year and the package was returned. Hence, want to make sure. Thank you.
 

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I have a question regarding the "Proof of Means of Financial Support", CIC explains that includes tax reports, declarations or statements. So do I need to upload my T4 in 2014?

Thank you in advance. :p
 

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Ibyt/ Asivad and Other Senior Boarders,
Thanks for your reply Ibyt.
Can you please point me to the form/manual which says ECA needs to be done for highest qualification. I want to make sure I am not rejected this time. I applied for FSW last year and the package was returned. Hence, want to make sure. Thank you.
Please check this link http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assessment.asp

and note the phrase "Choose the degree, diploma or certificate (or combination) that will get you the most points." under what your report means.
 
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Guys,

I have just noticed that this website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assessment.asp says you have to include your ECA assessment in your application even though the checklist doesn't say so. Hence the rejections.
 

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Ibyt said:
Guys,

I have just noticed that this website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assessment.asp says you have to include your ECA assessment in your application even though the checklist doesn't say so. Hence the rejections.
Omg you are right! But it's in a hidden statement. People won't really take notice of it. But seriously, the ECA reference number sometimes transfers unto your application. Did you input yours or was it transferred when you checked it? When you first start filing the application after receiving the ITA there's a part where you check your WES reference number and IELTS number (basically everything you supplied when you were filling your application)
 

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Ibyt said:
Guys,

I have just noticed that this website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assessment.asp says you have to include your ECA assessment in your application even though the checklist doesn't say so. Hence the rejections.
Ibyt,

If you are invited to apply for permanent residence and do not include this assessment and proof of your foreign credential when you apply, your application is not complete and will not be accepted for processing. Any fees submitted will be returned and you will need to submit a new Express Entry profile to be considered in the future.

Does the above statement means we will have to all the underlying education assessed. Am I inferring it right or not. Please clarify.
 

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I know right, I was shocked when I saw it because there might be somethings we dont know that might be hidden in other instructions.

It was transferred after ITA because Im sure I checked it. I didnt see this till today but I included my ECA letter with my certificates.

You know some officers are more proactive than others, I would imagine that they were all trained before EE so some of them will follow the rules to the T.
 

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rajanvnv said:
Ibyt,

If you are invited to apply for permanent residence and do not include this assessment and proof of your foreign credential when you apply, your application is not complete and will not be accepted for processing. Any fees submitted will be returned and you will need to submit a new Express Entry profile to be considered in the future.

Does the above statement means we will have to all the underlying education assessed. Am I inferring it right or not. Please clarify.
Hi,

I dont understand your question but the statement means that if you do not include your ECA letter and certificates in your application, then your application will be deemed incomplete and you will get full refund of your payments.
 

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Ibyt said:
Hi,

I dont understand your question but the statement means that if you do not include your ECA letter and certificates in your application, then your application will be deemed incomplete and you will get full refund of your payments.
The statement does not refer particularly to the Master's or Highest degree. Does it not mean we would need ECA and certificates for all the education pursued after secondary schooling, meaning diploma, bachelors and masters. Let me know what you think.

The statement which you earlier highlighted is "Choose the degree, diploma or certificate (or combination) that will get you the most points." - This refers to the way you calculate points.
 

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Ibyt said:
Guys,

I have just noticed that this website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assessment.asp says you have to include your ECA assessment in your application even though the checklist doesn't say so. Hence the rejections.
You don't have to upload the the document unless you are asked to do so. That statement just says you have to include the assessment, which is your reference number. You do have to have a hard copy in case ask for it. There have been people who have gotten their PRs without ever having to upload that or their langauge tests.
Every person on this board, at least all the ones I have read, who claim to have been rejected for not uploading the ECA have turned out to have been rejected for reasons other than the ECA. It's been because they didn't upload their diplomas, they got the ECA for the wrong degree they claimed, they filled out the reference number in the EE profile but didn't fill out the number again in the actual application, or they didn't get ECAs for all the degrees they claimed. So, don't panic about it.
 

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Ibyt said:
I know right, I was shocked when I saw it because there might be somethings we dont know that might be hidden in other instructions.

It was transferred after ITA because Im sure I checked it. I didnt see this till today but I included my ECA letter with my certificates.

You know some officers are more proactive than others, I would imagine that they were all trained before EE so some of them will follow the rules to the T.
Correctly said! Hopefully we get the proactive one no matter the situation.