INLAND APPLICATIONS 2013

[UKZippy]

I may be too early in the process to complain but this backlog for inland applicants doesn't make sense to me. CIC should process stage 1 fast like in 3-4 months and give the applicants a chance to work which will in turn generate tax income for Canada. If there are fraudsters they have the chance to find them and reject them later as stage 2 takes about 8 months.

I agree!

 

[jiggyzealous]

@UKZippy

I agree with what you're saying. However, do you reasonably believe that the inhumane waiting period for AIP is a desperate bid for CIC to catch up with fraudsters? It's a kind of immature belief

 

[UKZippy]

@ UKZippy

I agree with what you're saying. However, do you reasonably believe that the inhumane waiting period for AIP is a desperate bid for CIC to catch up with fraudsters? It's a kind of immature belief

No I dont. I just want to be able to work and support my family and have a secure future here in Canada. That cant be while I'm still on a visitor permit.

 

[dalia refaat]

Hello,
For the medical examination, you simply need to make an appointment with a physician that is approved by cic (the list can be found on their website) and once your medical is done the doctor will provide you with an emedical paper, which u need to submit with your application.
U say that u have a visitor visa for 3 years, that does not mean that u can stay in canada for 3 years, rather ur visa is valid for multiple entries with a stay of no more than 6 months a year. However if you apply inland you can stay for more than 6 months but you cannot leave the country. Therefore if you were to leave in june 2014, you won't be allowed back in because you have overstayed your 6 months period (someone correct me if im wrong). So if you must travel during the wait period, outland is the way to go. Also from other posts in this forum, you can travel once you receive AIP
The work permit comes with the initial stage approval, 6 months for inland (cic website),but its in fact more than 6 months for the first stage due to the ongoing strike.
How long is processing times for outland for your country? might be shorter that way

Thank you ortom , the processing time in my country is 12 months , i can not apply outland as i have to be with my husband . i guess ill try to make them push my sis wedd like 8 -9 months from the time i apply to be in the safe side. i already took an appointment with a physician but she said "get the medical form with you "!!! where is that? . so your saying if i have a 3 year visa but simply stayed more than 6 months in canada and left even to the USA i can't return ?!! can someone confirm that please ?. what about the honeymoon in december ?

 

[UKZippy]

Ok I haven't checked ECAS for a while, until now.

I notice that my sponsorship is there and say's it's in progress. However, my spouse, who is sponsoring me is not there, it just has her address.

What does this mean? Has she been aproved as a sponsor? Or have they just altered the format?

 

[UKZippy]

Ok I haven't checked ECAS for a while, until now.

I notice that my sponsorship is there and say's it's in progress. However, my spouse, who is sponsoring me is not there, it just has her address.

What does this mean? Has she been aproved as a sponsor? Or have they just altered the format?

Ok Ok I'll answer myself, lol, they just changed the format!

 

[mir023]

This is going to be the first of the million questions I am probably going to have regarding the PR application. My husband and I got married earlier this year and I am currently on the work visa and post graduate work permit. We have not yet applied for my PR as we will be going on vacation later this year and want to do inland after that (as outland processing time for my country would take 26 months)

So i have been thinking....when we are coming back to Canada from the trip, am i supposed to disclose of the change in my marital status or will that lead to me being denied entry to Canada? I got married in Canada and have changed status to married with the CRA. I am currently working here with a full time job and have the open work permit and multiple entry work visa.

I hope someone can help me out with this

 

[ortom]

First of all, are you a US citizen? If yes, than it is easier for you to enter canada, several members of the forum have been in and out of canada without having a problem entering canada.
If you're not a US citizen, than u might have problems coming back in. This is however up to the immigration officer at the border, you could keep a copy of your application when trying to enter canada or sponsorship approval (if u have it at the time you travel). If you check the cic website, it says that its recommended that you do not leave canada while ur application is in process inland. As for your honeymoon, it all depends if your application is in the system, when coming back if the IO sees it you might be questioned about it and might not be left back in. Try re-asking your question at the spouse sponsorship thread, as I myself am not 100% sure how the whole re-entry process works. At the same time if you are traveling with your husband you shouldn't have that much of a problem coming back (there's still a slight chance that u might not be allowed back in). Is it possible to have the honeymoon right after your wedding, before u send the application? This way you won't have to worry about coming back. Again either ask at the previously suggested thread or go through other threads and read about this topic as it has been asked and answered several times.
As for your visa validity, if you were coming to canada as a visitor (lets say your hubby is not canadian) and you were given a multiple entry 3 year visa, and you first entered canada on January 1st 2013 and initially decided to stay till June 30th (6 months), but then changed your mind and want to stay for another 3 months you need to apply for an extension of your stay even though your visa is valid for another 2.5 years. This being said unless you have a work or study permit you cannot stay for more than 6 months within 1 year, even if your visa is valid for 10 years. Considering you will be applying inland you can stay more than 6 months, but coming back won't be an option.

For the medical:
According to cic website,
You can contact a panel physician directly to get your medical exam if you apply under one of the following categories:

Family Class: Spouse, common-law partner, or conjugal partner
Family Class: Dependent children of the sponsor or the sponsor's spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner
Once your medical exam has been completed, the doctor will give you a document confirming that you underwent a medical exam. You must include a copy of that document with your application.

If the doctor works with the eMedical electronic system:

they will give you an up-front medical notification printout.
If the doctor works with a paper system:

they will give you a copy of the IMM 1017B Upfront Medical Report form.
You must attach that form to your application before you submit it to the visa office. If you apply online, you must upload that form before you can submit your application.

Also check this http://tomcic.wordpress.com/tag/imm-1017/ , the doctor is supposed to provide you with a copy not vice-versa. Please make sure you are using the right doctor (your family doctor cannot do the medical for you)

This is where you can find a physician http://www.cic.gc.ca/pp-md/pp-list.aspx

Thank you ortom , the processing time in my country is 12 months , i can not apply outland as i have to be with my husband . i guess ill try to make them push my sis wedd like 8 -9 months from the time i apply to be in the safe side. i already took an appointment with a physician but she said "get the medical form with you "!!! where is that? . so your saying if i have a 3 year visa but simply stayed more than 6 months in canada and left even to the USA i can't return ?!! can someone confirm that please ?. what about the honeymoon in december ?

 

[ortom]

We have entered canada twice since getting married in february and we just sent out our application. Was never questioned about being married to a canadian. I would say if you were questioned about your intention of leaving canada since you're now married to a canadian, you can simply say that you won't necessarily live in Canada, even though I doubt they would ask.

This is going to be the first of the million questions I am probably going to have regarding the PR application. My husband and I got married earlier this year and I am currently on the work visa and post graduate work permit. We have not yet applied for my PR as we will be going on vacation later this year and want to do inland after that (as outland processing time for my country would take 26 months)

So i have been thinking....when we are coming back to Canada from the trip, am i supposed to disclose of the change in my marital status or will that lead to me being denied entry to Canada? I got married in Canada and have changed status to married with the CRA. I am currently working here with a full time job and have the open work permit and multiple entry work visa.

I hope someone can help me out with this

 

[mir023]

We have entered canada twice since getting married in february and we just sent out our application. Was never questioned about being married to a canadian. I would say if you were questioned about your intention of leaving canada since you're now married to a canadian, you can simply say that you won't necessarily live in Canada, even though I doubt they would ask.

Thank you so much for that answer Ortom. I am so paranoid about the whole thing. So the reason we are leaving in December is because we are having another reception back home. When we are at the airport, should we go to the immigration officer as a family or should we go separately? If they ask about my intention to apply for PR should i say we will be applying for it or no? So far i only entered canada as a student and was only asked university-related stuff

 

[dalia refaat]

We have entered canada twice since getting married in february and we just sent out our application. Was never questioned about being married to a canadian. I would say if you were questioned about your intention of leaving canada since you're now married to a canadian, you can simply say that you won't necessarily live in Canada, even though I doubt they would ask.

so ortom , does that mean that we can go for my honeymoon in december 2 months after applying ? and when asked should we say the truth ?

 

[ortom]

Well based on the last time we entered, the passport control has changed (pearson airport). It is now computerized for citizens and pr's, so your husband could avoid going through the passport control person, you on the other hand have to go through the passport control. I would suggest go with your husband, after all you are a family and will complete one declaration form (not that you can't complete two forms). If asked about your intentions for PR, you can say that you might in the future depending on where your family decides to live (supposedly) or you can tell the truth (which I don't think will help). However I do not think that they will ask that, I mean they have no rights to make assumptions about your intentions for PR, at the same time my visitor visa was approved after we got married (i am on pgwp as well) and it didnt seem to be an issue for the IO, so I don't see why it will be an issue for the passport control person (who are not IO i believe) to let you re-enter. What I am trying to say is that there is no evidence of you applying or wanting to apply for PR and for the time being you are entering as a worker in canada. Also before getting married, we were always asked about our rltnship when re-entering canada, since we've been married never a question. I guess it shows in the system, so it doesnt make a difference if you go with or without your husband at the passport control.
And yes we are all paranoid about this whole immigration process, I was paranoid way before we got married when it came to re-entering Canada.

Thank you so much for that answer Ortom. I am so paranoid about the whole thing. So the reason we are leaving in December is because we are having another reception back home. When we are at the airport, should we go to the immigration officer as a family or should we go separately? If they ask about my intention to apply for PR should i say we will be applying for it or no? So far i only entered canada as a student and was only asked university-related stuff

 

[ArtSnow]

DON'T LEAVE THE COUNTRY WHILE YOU HAVE YOUR PROCESS PENDING!
Don't take that chance, nothing guarantees you that you won't find the IO from hell that's having a bad day and the fact is, if the IO decides you will not enter there's nothing you can do about it, but go back to your country and start the whole process from there.
I rest my case.

 

[ortom]

Not necessarily, because I hold a post graduate work permit and a visa, which allows me to stay in canada for the entire validity period of my permit. I can go in and out of canada as much as I like during this period of time bcs of my permit and multiple entry visa. At the same time, when we have travelled my application was not in process, so I had no concerns about not being allowed back in. We were supposed to send our application in the end of May, but bcs we had to travel to Europe to see my family (who's visitor visa was refused), we decided to hold on to the application until we got back and we just sent it last week. With that being said, I personally would not take any risks of traveling outside of canada while my application is in process, there's too much to risk involved.
This is a decision that you and your husband need to make, chances are you will be allowed back in after your honeymoon, however there's a small % that you might not be allowed. You need to ask yourself if you are willing to take that risk (no matter how small). What you can do is submit your application after your honeymoon, which means its not certain if you will be able to attend your sisters wedding in june.

so ortom , does that mean that we can go for my honeymoon in december 2 months after applying ? and when asked should we say the truth ?

 

[mir023]

Well based on the last time we entered, the passport control has changed (pearson airport). It is now computerized for citizens and pr's, so your husband could avoid going through the passport control person, you on the other hand have to go through the passport control. I would suggest go with your husband, after all you are a family and will complete one declaration form (not that you can't complete two forms). If asked about your intentions for PR, you can say that you might in the future depending on where your family decides to live (supposedly) or you can tell the truth (which I don't think will help). However I do not think that they will ask that, I mean they have no rights to make assumptions about your intentions for PR, at the same time my visitor visa was approved after we got married (i am on pgwp as well) and it didnt seem to be an issue for the IO, so I don't see why it will be an issue for the passport control person (who are not IO i believe) to let you re-enter. What I am trying to say is that there is no evidence of you applying or wanting to apply for PR and for the time being you are entering as a worker in canada. Also before getting married, we were always asked about our rltnship when re-entering canada, since we've been married never a question. I guess it shows in the system, so it doesnt make a difference if you go with or without your husband at the passport control.
And yes we are all paranoid about this whole immigration process, I was paranoid way before we got married when it came to re-entering Canada.

THANK YOU! you have been a great help! and knowing you are on PGWP too is rather comforting!