INLAND APPLICATIONS 2013

[UKZippy]

Hi all,
as ever a question......

I've just been informed via another thread that I should have included an OWP in my application and that as I havent I cant do it seperately. This means that I will have to wait until the whole application is approved before I can work

Is there any way around this?

I was under the impression that once stage 1 was done CIC would send me a work permit.

Thanks
Col

 

[wolanila]

Hi all,
as ever a question......

I've just been informed via another thread that I should have included an OWP in my application and that as I havent I cant do it seperately. This means that I will have to wait until the whole application is approved before I can work

Is there any way around this?

I was under the impression that once stage 1 was done CIC would send me a work permit.

Thanks
Col

Hey UKZippy don't worry you can still send it. I found these specific instructions with a quick search in google. Here is the link - http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/forgot-to-include-owp-application-with-inland-spousal-app-t109506.0.html;msg1582942#msg1582942

Pay special attention to this Paragraph:

Please also note if the sponsored person did not send an open work permit application with their permanent residence application, they can send it, by mail, at any time while it is in process by writing Open Work Permit - Application for permanent residence in Canada - Spouse or common-law partner on the top of the form. They should also include proof that the permanent residence application was submitted. The open work permit application cannot be submitted online.

Or you can also wait until you get AIP and then send it, but I would think it would be processed faster if you sent it now

 

[UKZippy]

Hey UKZippy don't worry you can still send it. I found these specific instructions with a quick search in google. Here is the link - http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/forgot-to-include-owp-application-with-inland-spousal-app-t109506.0.html;msg1582942#msg1582942

Pay special attention to this Paragraph:

Please also note if the sponsored person did not send an open work permit application with their permanent residence application, they can send it, by mail, at any time while it is in process by writing Open Work Permit - Application for permanent residence in Canada - Spouse or common-law partner on the top of the form. They should also include proof that the permanent residence application was submitted. The open work permit application cannot be submitted online.

Or you can also wait until you get AIP and then send it, but I would think it would be processed faster if you sent it now

That is Fantasic!
Thank you so much!!!!!!

 

[MisterBob]

I am running out of time to sponsor my common-law for common-law marriage to canada. We are applying inland and have some questions that would appreciate some help for some clarification.

Questions:
1) We want "extend her stay as a visitor" for more time to complete the application for applying common-law. There is an area on the form that asks for current money amount in her bank account or something along that line. She doesn't have any money in her account as she is not working anymore. Can we put $0.00 for it? Will this affect the visitor extension? the questionnaire in step 1 asks if she has family members here and I put yes "common-law". I put the reason why she is her as "visitor" for "temporarily - more than 6 months" as I tried to put her as "moving here" and "permanently" - it doesnt allow us to extend her visitor visa.

2) We have all her forms ready to apply for inland common-law marriage sponsorship but totally forgot to get her "Birth Certificate" and her "Police Certificate/form" from Japan. She will get a scanned copy of her birth certificate from her mother and she is quoted that it takes 2-3 months to receive a copy of the Police Certificate. Should we apply for inland common-law sponsorship now with a letter explanation of the reason why we do not have the police certificate and then send in the police certificate right away when we receive it? Or should we wait and send it in all together? I know on the "Document Checklist" form - it says "If you do not enclose all the required documents, your entire application will be returned to you". We have already completed her medical check. Her current visitor visa expires Feb 28 2013.

3) Does CIC need the Police certificate and Medical check by the time they complete "Approval In Principal" and not before that? I was under the intention it was not needed till Step 2 so therefore, we thought we had more time to get these documents. Now I am thinking it is needed to send in with the application together and not separately.

4) Does she need a Police Certificate for Canada when applying inland common-law sponsorship too? I know it is needed when applying outland but we are not sure about applying for inland if we need it?



What other suggestions can you give us? Thank you in advance for everyone's help. I would appreciate if anyone that sponsored someone from Japan for an inland common-law sponsorship to share with me your process and details for your application.


Best Regards,
MisterBob

 

[Nigea]

wolanila

Can you add me to the spreadsheet. I am at the end of 2012

 

[computergeek]

I am running out of time to sponsor my common-law for common-law marriage to canada. We are applying inland and have some questions that would appreciate some help for some clarification.

Questions:
1) We want "extend her stay as a visitor" for more time to complete the application for applying common-law. There is an area on the form that asks for current money amount in her bank account or something along that line. She doesn't have any money in her account as she is not working anymore. Can we put $0.00 for it? Will this affect the visitor extension? the questionnaire in step 1 asks if she has family members here and I put yes "common-law". I put the reason why she is her as "visitor" for "temporarily - more than 6 months" as I tried to put her as "moving here" and "permanently" - it doesnt allow us to extend her visitor visa.

Technically, she doesn't have to be in status for an inland application, but what you need to say is that she would like to visit while they process her application for permanent residency. What you really do need to do is send along a copy of the receipt for payment of the PR application fees and you should also indicate she will be living with you in Canada and you will be providing her support. Even if they refuse her, it won't matter - as I said, in-Canada class applications are the only ones where the public policy is to permit an out-of-status applicant.

Still, it's good to stay in status.

2) We have all her forms ready to apply for inland common-law marriage sponsorship but totally forgot to get her "Birth Certificate" and her "Police Certificate/form" from Japan. She will get a scanned copy of her birth certificate from her mother and she is quoted that it takes 2-3 months to receive a copy of the Police Certificate. Should we apply for inland common-law sponsorship now with a letter explanation of the reason why we do not have the police certificate and then send in the police certificate right away when we receive it? Or should we wait and send it in all together? I know on the "Document Checklist" form - it says "If you do not enclose all the required documents, your entire application will be returned to you". We have already completed her medical check. Her current visitor visa expires Feb 28 2013.

Usually a copy of a birth certificate is sufficient, but refer to the specific rules.

Given your timing, I'd send in the copy of the birth certificate (and get a certified copy if the rules say you need one, though I suspect not) and get that application submitted by February 28, 2013. In that case, also include a temporary status application WITH the PR application: visitor, worker (open work permit), or study. That will be processed when first stage approval is granted and in the meantime she will be covered by "implied status".

Implied status arises when you are in status and you submit an application for an extension of status. In that case, you remain "in status" until such time as they make a decision on the application. You must pay the fee for the temporary status application at the same time (e.g., for an open work permit, the fee is $150).

3) Does CIC need the Police certificate and Medical check by the time they complete "Approval In Principal" and not before that? I was under the intention it was not needed till Step 2 so therefore, we thought we had more time to get these documents. Now I am thinking it is needed to send in with the application together and not separately.

For inland sponsorship they are fairly lenient here so they will approve you (as sponsor) and then ask for those documents if they don't already have them. Since that's six months, you should have the police certificate by that time. When you get the AOR document it will include your file number and THEN you can submit those extra documents.

4) Does she need a Police Certificate for Canada when applying inland common-law sponsorship too? I know it is needed when applying outland but we are not sure about applying for inland if we need it? [/b]

No. RCMP will hand over her information to CIC. The only time she needs to do something here is if they ask her for fingerprints. This can happen because her name matches someone in the RCMP database and they need her fingerprints to establish her identity (e.g., she's not the person with the criminal record). That happens sometimes but in ~ 5% of applications. Don't worry about it unless CIC asks her for them.

Good luck!

 

[amikety]

I am running out of time to sponsor my common-law for common-law marriage to canada. We are applying inland and have some questions that would appreciate some help for some clarification.

Questions:
1) We want "extend her stay as a visitor" for more time to complete the application for applying common-law. There is an area on the form that asks for current money amount in her bank account or something along that line. She doesn't have any money in her account as she is not working anymore. Can we put $0.00 for it? Will this affect the visitor extension? the questionnaire in step 1 asks if she has family members here and I put yes "common-law". I put the reason why she is her as "visitor" for "temporarily - more than 6 months" as I tried to put her as "moving here" and "permanently" - it doesnt allow us to extend her visitor visa.

2) We have all her forms ready to apply for inland common-law marriage sponsorship but totally forgot to get her "Birth Certificate" and her "Police Certificate/form" from Japan. She will get a scanned copy of her birth certificate from her mother and she is quoted that it takes 2-3 months to receive a copy of the Police Certificate. Should we apply for inland common-law sponsorship now with a letter explanation of the reason why we do not have the police certificate and then send in the police certificate right away when we receive it? Or should we wait and send it in all together? I know on the "Document Checklist" form - it says "If you do not enclose all the required documents, your entire application will be returned to you". We have already completed her medical check. Her current visitor visa expires Feb 28 2013.

3) Does CIC need the Police certificate and Medical check by the time they complete "Approval In Principal" and not before that? I was under the intention it was not needed till Step 2 so therefore, we thought we had more time to get these documents. Now I am thinking it is needed to send in with the application together and not separately.

4) Does she need a Police Certificate for Canada when applying inland common-law sponsorship too? I know it is needed when applying outland but we are not sure about applying for inland if we need it?



What other suggestions can you give us? Thank you in advance for everyone's help. I would appreciate if anyone that sponsored someone from Japan for an inland common-law sponsorship to share with me your process and details for your application.


Best Regards,
MisterBob

You can submit your paystubs as proof. That's what I do for my extensions. (Well, my husband's. Not yours )

 

[Nigea]

Thought I would bump this up as there a several people wondering if there was an INLAND 2013.

 

[PaoladeCano]

Thanks Nigea! and hello everyone!

I am glad to find a group of "2013 Inland Applicants". I am sponsoring my husband, who came to join me in September, 2012. We submitted our application on January 2nd, 2013, and was received on Jan 7, 2013. We received the email confirming (or acknowledging the receipt of our application) on February 3, 2013, with our file number.

I have a couple of questions, hope some of you can help me answer:

(1) Do you know how long it is taking to start processing the applications once they have been AORd?
(2) My husband has a multiple entry visa valid for 10 years, but I understand that for every "visitor entry" to the country, visitors can stay for 6 months only. Is that correct? if so, then I suppose we need to apply for an extension of his visitor´s visa, right? - we have done that this past January 24, 2013. Which leads me to my next question:
(3) What if (and I sure hope it isn´t the case) they end up declining the extension? would he have to go back to Mexico? can we somehow appeal that decision? and also, if he ends up having to go back to Mexico, does that mean we would have to re-submit our sponsorship application, as he would no longer be "inbound"?

I have noticed some people were wondering about how to go about some of the back up paper work for their visa extensions. What I did was to submit a copy of my last few paystubs, a copy of my bank account statement (which doesn´t have a ton of money, but enough to prove that we can both live with that), plus a letter from me stating that we have submitted our application for sponsorship, that I am supporting my husband financially, and also added a copy of the receipt of the fees we paid for the sponsorship application (we didn´t have a file number yet at that moment). I am hoping that this will suffice to have the extension approved.

All the best to everyone!!!

Paola

Category: Spouse
Visa office: Vegreville
App received: Jan 7, 2013
AOR: Feb 3, 2013
AIP:
OWP
DM:
Landing:
PR card:

 

[computergeek]

(1) Do you know how long it is taking to start processing the applications once they have been AORd?

Generally it seems to take them about 2-3 months after AOR to start processing an application. AIP is coming for many around 5.5-6 months.

(2) My husband has a multiple entry visa valid for 10 years, but I understand that for every "visitor entry" to the country, visitors can stay for 6 months only. Is that correct? if so, then I suppose we need to apply for an extension of his visitor´s visa, right? - we have done that this past January 24, 2013. Which leads me to my next question:
(3) What if (and I sure hope it isn´t the case) they end up declining the extension? would he have to go back to Mexico? can we somehow appeal that decision? and also, if he ends up having to go back to Mexico, does that mean we would have to re-submit our sponsorship application, as he would no longer be "inbound"?

Did your husband apply for temporary status along with the PR application - visitor extension, study permit or open work permit? If not, I'd suggest preparing one and submitting it to the office and asking them to add it to your file. By having a pending application he remains in status under the "implied status" doctrine and does not need to leave. Otherwise, he must abide by his temporary status nature - or you can apply for an extension via the normal method. With an in-Canada sponsorship in process it is unlikely it would be refused. If it IS refused, yes, you can challenge the refusal.

If he leaves Canada temporarily (e.g., a vacation or family emergency) then he is fine as long as he is allowed to re-enter Canada at the border. That is the norm unless there is some grounds for refusing him re-entry. Technically the requirement is that he has to be living with you throughout the entire process. Taking a vacation doesn't generally violate that, but if he cannot live with you (because he's prohibited entry) then it's a problem. CBSA officers know this and you'd have to find one who was in a VERY bad mood to refuse entry without solid grounds for doing so.

Good luck!

 

[PaoladeCano]

Thank you for your reply!

No, we didn´t think of attaching the application to extend his visitor visa with the sponsorship application. We submitted it separately, about 3 weeks after we had sent the PR application, and we applied for the extension of the visitor visa via the regular method and on line... I wonder if we should "cancel" that application (although I don´t know if it is even possible), and then maybe send another one, and ask to have it included or linked to our sponsorship application. Is that what you were suggesting? We didn´t ask to have it included or linked to our PR application, I only said on my letter that we had applied for his PR and sent them a copy of the receipt of the fees we´d paid. What would the best thing to do? I wish I´d known we could have attached the visitor visa with the PR application, we didn´t know about the "implied status" then

He is not planning to leave Canada unless he is asked to by immigration

 

[CANUSA31]

^^

Hey PaoladeCano, you got your AOR after only 1 month of them receiving your application?? And you got an email from CIC not a letter in the mail?

 

[LOBE]

Hi All, (SPOUSAL SPONSRSHIP AIP AND PRRA DECISION).

I will be glad if I can get some help here or advice because we are very confused right now.
My refugee claim was denied in April 2011 and I appealed in federal court which was
denied in October 2011 too. But I applied for spousal sponsorship under common-law
with my partner as he was approved in July 2011, we applied in August 2011. This was before my
appeal in court was denied and before I was invited for meeting by the CBSA at 6900 Airport Rd
in the same month of August.
I attended the meeting with my spouse showing evidence of
the sponsorship (payment invoice and copy of application forms, etc) and the Officer
made copies of it and said I will be contacted. I received a letter for PRRA in
December 2011 and I was given the PRRA forms to fill which I submitted in January 2012. I was
asked to be reporting once every month in person at the CBSA office.
I and my partner got married in December 2011 and sent all necessary documents to
CIC to support our application and it was received.
Our file was transferred from Vegriville to Etobicoke in April 2012 for further processing
and a letter was sent to us to confirm that. In June 2012, we received a letter from CIC
stating that we are both eligible to apply for PR and that we can apply for health card,
and work permit which we did and was approved. I guess the letter is the AIP.
I went to the CBSA office in August to present the AIP letter and the officer made a copy of it
and also gave me a letter that I should stop reporting every month from then.
Now, just today we got a letter again from CBSA stating that the decision has been made on
the PRRA I submitted and that I should present myself at the CBSA office on 6900.
We are really disappointed and sad because we thought they had suspended the PRRA till the
sponsorship is decided, and now we are more than confused because we don't know what to expect
there when I get there. Will the AIP letter we received help at all in this matter its just the deportation
process that is next? Please advice us.
My spouse called CIC to know the status of our application but was told that it is still in process.
Thank you for your anticipated contribution.

 

[computergeek]

Hi All, (SPOUSAL SPONSRSHIP AIP AND PRRA DECISION).

I will be glad if I can get some help here or advice because we are very confused right now.
My refugee claim was denied in April 2011 and I appealed in federal court which was
denied in October 2011 too. But I applied for spousal sponsorship under common-law
with my partner as he was approved in July 2011, we applied in August 2011. This was before my
appeal in court was denied and before I was invited for meeting by the CBSA at 6900 Airport Rd
in the same month of August.
I attended the meeting with my spouse showing evidence of
the sponsorship (payment invoice and copy of application forms, etc) and the Officer
made copies of it and said I will be contacted. I received a letter for PRRA in
December 2011 and I was given the PRRA forms to fill which I submitted in January 2012. I was
asked to be reporting once every month in person at the CBSA office.
I and my partner got married in December 2011 and sent all necessary documents to
CIC to support our application and it was received.
Our file was transferred from Vegriville to Etobicoke in April 2012 for further processing
and a letter was sent to us to confirm that. In June 2012, we received a letter from CIC
stating that we are both eligible to apply for PR and that we can apply for health card,
and work permit which we did and was approved. I guess the letter is the AIP.
I went to the CBSA office in August to present the AIP letter and the officer made a copy of it
and also gave me a letter that I should stop reporting every month from then.
Now, just today we got a letter again from CBSA stating that the decision has been made on
the PRRA I submitted and that I should present myself at the CBSA office on 6900.
We are really disappointed and sad because we thought they had suspended the PRRA till the
sponsorship is decided, and now we are more than confused because we don't know what to expect
there when I get there. Will the AIP letter we received help at all in this matter its just the deportation
process that is next? Please advice us.
My spouse called CIC to know the status of our application but was told that it is still in process.
Thank you for your anticipated contribution.

You probably belong in the 2011 Inland application group.

The PRRA is separate from the spousal sponsorship. Thus, processing of the PRRA continues. If the PRRA is accepted, you are granted protected person status and may apply for PR with that status. If the PRRA is refused, they would normally executed the removal order. However, it is the public policy that removal orders against applicants with a current in-process application in the in-Canada spousal class are suspended until a determination has been made on that application. Unless there are other issues (notably criminality) it would normally be the case that they would suspend the removal order even if the PRRA decision is negative.

That's why CBSA stopped having you report monthly.

Your failed refugee claim is the reason for the referral to a local office -they will investigate your relationship very thoroughly in order to ensure that it is legitimate, since there is a high risk of marriage-of-convenience after a failed application (I know, I've had to do a spousal app after a refused application - there's definitely heightened scrutiny). Oddly, a positive PRRA determination would likely work in your favour, since it would remove the rationale for the marriage of convenience (though it won't eliminate all suspicions.)

Have you ordered a copy of your electronic case notes? If not, I'd suggest doing so. Asking for your own information (search for "privacy act" on the CIC website and it will lead you to the forms) is free under the privacy act. Just indicate you want your "electronic case notes".

Good luck!

 

[Tuesdayc]

Application mailed out on Feb 6th, and reached CIC on Feb 9th. Keeping my fingers crossed now.

One question I have though, did anyone try to convert their international license for the provincial drivers license? I obtained my drivers license in Manitoba many years ago, but stopped renewing it for a while as I moved back home and had a Singapore license. I tried going to convert the license but they will not allow me to obtain the drivers license beyond my visa validity of 6 months. Anyone knows anyway out?

Thanks!!