H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

[Kate_20]

I have seen this thread in the past, this is for TRV. Like study, and work permits visitor visas too.
But my case is Humanitarian and compassionate ground

yes but JR review and settlement offer would be similar process for all types of applications.

If settlement offer issued it means you have a strong case, IRCC reviewed your claim and gave you the settlement offer. If you can add additional docs to strengthen already strong case. why would they refuse you? Whats the point of these JRs and settlement offers then??

 

[us in canada]

Thank you- if you don’t mind sharing on what basis did you apply the work permit on? Was it recently?

I have send the work permit application with the h&c application in case they approve 1 stage on h&c they already have the work permit application so they can issue the work permit don't waste time if they refuse h&c there's a big chance for them to approve the work permit for 1 or 2 years because I have a job letter saying I work in the same company for 10 years

 

[canuck78]

But on the letter i have received they didn’t mention reviewed by different officer.
Do you know someone got refused even after settlement offer? Or what is likelihood of chance to refusal?

It does say it is being sent back to be reviewed by another officer. Yes you can still get refused. Impossible to know what chances of refusal because JR can be approved for a variety of reason including incorrect procedure even without strong H&C grounds.

 

[canuck78]

yes but JR review and settlement offer would be similar process for all types of applications.

If settlement offer issued it means you have a strong case, IRCC reviewed your claim and gave you the settlement offer. If you can add additional docs to strengthen already strong case. why would they refuse you? Whats the point of these JRs and settlement offers then??

There are a variety of reasons why you can get JR approved. Sometimes it is just a procedural error. Doesn’t guarantee approval. Certainly better than having JR refused but other than that you have to wait for application to be reassessed.

 

[Andypolis1987]

yes but JR review and settlement offer would be similar process for all types of applications.

If settlement offer issued it means you have a strong case, IRCC reviewed your claim and gave you the settlement offer. If you can add additional docs to strengthen already strong case. why would they refuse you? Whats the point of these JRs and settlement offers then??

Exactly If they refused again literally means IRCC has more powerful than Department Of Justice Canada and Federal Court of Canada. While in reality Judges and DOJ Counsels their positions upper than Officers.

 

[canuck78]

Exactly If they refused again literally means IRCC has more powerful than Department Of Justice Canada and Federal Court of Canada. While in reality Judges and DOJ Counsels their positions upper than Officers.

A JR is not determining if you have grounds for H&C. They are determining if there has been an error in the consideration of your H&C application or procedure. Very different.

 

[Andypolis1987]

A JR is not determining if you have grounds for H&C. They are determining if there has been an error in the consideration of your H&C application or procedure. Very different.

I’m mindful that role of JR is just determining and reviewing the decision wherever has legal errors in facts and laws, it doesn’t give you status or grant immigration application until here I agree with you 100%
But here is the real question if the application for H&C doesn’t have any grounds why they allowed to proceed with JR.?
If no foundations and grounds not necessarily filed for FC.
If they correct the mistake and approve the application then it’s okay to take this procedure but if refused again it’s just wasting more dollars and government resources!
And you tell me, does not mean in this legal process just wasting taxpayers money and resources? Make a request for H&C then proceed after refusal again file for JR before court DOJ involved so is not wasting huge budget?
I remember at early 2000s cost of processing H&C was too much around fifteen hundred $

 

[Armaani]

Good morning team, I hope you all get some good news soon! I have received a letter stating a decision has been rendered and we are invited to CBSA to obtain the decision in a couple weeks. We are excited but also very nervous about this, Can anyone please shed some light !!! Anyone any experience my timeline is:
Applied for H&C on March 2024
Applied for Prra on July 2024
Letter received just now for the interview to obtain decision but it doesn’t mention about which of my applications?

Anyone any experience with this PLZ SHARE will be highly appreciated!

 

[Missfy]

Good morning team, I hope you all get some good news soon! I have received a letter stating a decision has been rendered and we are invited to CBSA to obtain the decision in a couple weeks. We are excited but also very nervous about this, Can anyone please shed some light !!! Anyone any experience my timeline is:
Applied for H&C on March 2024
Applied for Prra on July 2024
Letter received just now for the interview to obtain decision but it doesn’t mention about which of my applications?

Anyone any experience with this PLZ SHARE will be highly

Good morning team, I hope you all get some good news soon! I have received a letter stating a decision has been rendered and we are invited to CBSA to obtain the decision in a couple weeks. We are excited but also very nervous about this, Can anyone please shed some light !!! Anyone any experience my timeline is:
Applied for H&C on March 2024
Applied for Prra on July 2024
Letter received just now for the interview to obtain decision but it doesn’t mention about which of my applications?

Anyone any experience with this PLZ SHARE will be highly appreciated!

It must be PRRA because my lawyer said they normally would tell you to come over for decision. Any update on your H&C?

 

[Armaani]

It must be PRRA because my lawyer said they normally would tell you to come over for decision. Any update on your H&C?

My lawyer told me if it is negative decision usually they will do a hearing for Prra so I am hopeful here as there is no hearing scheduled or so but again not sure what the results could be! In regards to my H&C or Prra never had any other update until this letter.

 

[Kate_20]

Exactly If they refused again literally means IRCC has more powerful than Department Of Justice Canada and Federal Court of Canada. While in reality Judges and DOJ Counsels their positions upper than Officers.

If after positive JR or settlement officer can refuse application whats the point of having Judicial branch? Whats the point of having immigration judges? it means officers are above the law. Thats a broken justice system.

 

[us in canada]

If after positive JR or settlement officer can refuse application whats the point of having Judicial branch? Whats the point of having immigration judges? it means officers are above the law. Thats a broken justice system.

IRCC always can find a new excuse to reject your file anytime or they can leave your file in the corner for long long time unfortunately no one can do nothing why other applications are 6 to 12 months and H&C are over 25 months something it not right with this immigration system

 

[Kate_20]

IRCC always can find a new excuse to reject your file anytime or they can leave your file in the corner for long long time unfortunately no one can do nothing why other applications are 6 to 12 months and H&C are over 25 months something it not right with this immigration system

absolutely! agreed 100% not even processing times are accurate and no one says anything. That’s exactly what govt likes and wants.

 

[Armaani]

Good morning team, I hope you all get some good news soon! I have received a letter stating a decision has been rendered and we are invited to CBSA to obtain the decision in a couple weeks. We are excited but also very nervous about this, Can anyone please shed some light !!! Anyone any experience my timeline is:
Applied for H&C on March 2024
Applied for Prra on July 2024
Letter received just now for the interview to obtain decision but it doesn’t mention about which of my applications?

Anyone any experience with this PLZ SHARE will be highly appreciated!

 

[scylla]

If after positive JR or settlement officer can refuse application whats the point of having Judicial branch? Whats the point of having immigration judges? it means officers are above the law. Thats a broken justice system.

As I understand it, JR is not about assessing if your application should have been refused or approved but about whether the officer did a thorough / appropriate job of reviewing the application. So let's say that an application involved best interest of a child. JR will assess if the officer assessed this in their reivew of the file and considered the evidence submitted. JR is not there to re-assess the evidence or to say that a negative decision should have been positive. Just to make sure the officer considered what the applicant provided as part of their decision. Let's say that the officer did not assess all evidence, JR can then call this out and send the application back for review by a different officer. JR is not saying that the result should have been positive. They are saying evidence wasn't considered. When the new officer assesses the application, the end result can still be a refusal. This is my layman understanding.