Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:

[chakrab]

in 2013, over 330,000 applications for citizenship were made to CIC. so that would make a bit more than 50,000 in 2 months.

http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=820409

 

[txboyscout]

The bill has now passed the House of Commons and is going to the upper chamber

You guys have to remember one thing, the vast majority of people who have applied within the last 12 months will be citizens in time for the next federal election in Fall 2015. And since this will be their first opportunity to vote, most of them are guranteed to vote. I am sure that the cons will do everything they can to attract these votes.

 

[marcus66502]

Please stop posting unreasonable posts just to scare people who are not familiar with this issue.

There is no way in Hell this will pass by June 27th .. it didnt even pass the house of common yet and it still has to go though 3 Senate Reading and Commitee Reviews .. do you think the Canadian Parliament is a Joke? And even if it passed (Which is impossible in that short time left) .. the Law wont be effective immediately .

I don't think it's wise to interact with someone who reads something on Toronto Star and then takes it as fact. That would be a fantastic waste of time.

 

[MWM]

Did they passed third reading or still ? as there is nothing on the website !!! plus also I don't think that it will be passed this this session also I think will be after summer , plus there is a lot of a push against it ... don't you agree with me that since a week ago we went through slow motion ?

 

[rayman_m]

in 2013, over 330,000 applications for citizenship were made to CIC. so that would make a bit more than 50,000 in 2 months.

http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=820409

Yes.. it could be around 50 to 55k..

 

[bambino]

I'm not going to pick on what you've said but I do want to emphasize that you should not be talking about Canadian values as if it's a set of rules like the seven commandments etched in stone. No such thing exists, despite what you read in government-published leaflets for the general immigrant population.

Values will vary from person to person and since they're subjective by their very nature, you have no standing to say that your values are in any way superior to mine. Excuse me for feeling I don't have much in common people in my community, or for not feeling I should get involved outside my home (donate, volunteer or whatever you imagine). It's not any of these that make me a citizen. It's not what others think of me that makes me a citizen. It's the legal status that will be granted to me by the government.

The law is where the power is, not people's opinions. And if the law says three years of residence makes me good enough to apply for citizenship, then so it shall be. I am not required to agree with your view of a 'Canadian' lifestyle in order to meet the law's requirements for citizenship (much as that pisses you off).

I don't want that to become a statutory requirement, so no, it doesn't piss me off. I've no idea why you thought it would, except that you seem to be projecting.

There absolutely is such a thing as Canadian values. No one is saying that everyone has to share them, or that they all need to be uniquely Canadian. All it takes is for a majority or even a plurality of Canadians to share a certain set of core principles. Things like respect for the rule of law, stopping for pedestrians even if that causes a ten-car pileup, being civil to someone even if he forces his wife to dress like a ninja, or even quaint notions such as opposing stoning people just for being gay. And, judging by how many people are trying to immigrate to Canada compared to Waziristan, I'd say Canadian values are vastly superior to those of many other societies.

Lastly, no one here is basing their opinion on what's published in government leaflets or the Star or whatever other source that doesn't meet your exacting standards. So stop acting like a condescending little prick.

 

[canadian88]

will canadian citizenship certificate holder loose their citizinship easly? if they wanna move outside of Canada because of the marriage or work etc. it is scary. Can someone tell me about it? l am planing to move france because l ll get married.. l ll leave there . what Does this government try to do?

 

[wadelmaki]

The Bill has already passed the HOC and at Second Reading in Senate.....It is moving so quick!

 

[abdel2010]

Did they passed third reading or still ? as there is nothing on the website !!! plus also I don't think that it will be passed this this session also I think will be after summer , plus there is a lot of a push against it ... don't you agree with me that since a week ago we went through slow motion ?

Yes it was passed, the bill page is now up to date in the parliament website.

 

[MWM]

C-24 An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts
Short Title
Strengthening Canadian Citizenship Act
Sponsor
Minister of Citizenship and Immigration
Last Stage Completed
First Reading in the Senate (2014-06-16)
Progress:

 

[taleodor]

Here is the article in Toronto Star, btw: http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2014/06/16/bill_c24_would_undermine_rights_to_citizenship.html

It's not mentioning any dates. Though, it seems quite realistic now that the bill would make it through the Senate before the summer break. Even though my bet was initially on September.

BTW, last guy to go nuts against The Star was Rob Ford. I believe, you know the story...

 

[polarbear]

C-24 An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts
Short Title
Strengthening Canadian Citizenship Act
Sponsor
Minister of Citizenship and Immigration
Last Stage Completed
First Reading in the Senate (2014-06-16)
Progress:

Hello Guys, When is Bill C-24 Second Reading in the Senate?

I don't see Senate has allocated any date for C-24 this week.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/sencommitteebusiness/allmeetings.aspx?parl=41&ses=2&Language=E

 

[sicko86]

Here is the article in Toronto Star, btw: http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2014/06/16/bill_c24_would_undermine_rights_to_citizenship.html

It's not mentioning any dates. Though, it seems quite realistic now that the bill would make it through the Senate before the summer break. Even though my bet was initially on September.

BTW, last guy to go nuts against The Star was Rob Ford. I believe, you know the story...

Still unlikely .. Second reading is the big stage usually requires couple of setting to pass it (not like First Reading). Also there is a commitee review after this before moving to third reading then a Royal Assent.

it is highly unlikely all this will happen in the 7 business days left.

 

[thepolestar]

Everyone is free to think rather about when the bill will be passed.

As far as the intention of the government, it is clear that they are aiming (and were always in my view) to bring it before Canada Day(July 1st). The government enjoys a decent majority in the senate also and they will push the bill accordingly. :-\ :-\

Surprisingly, the thing to notice is that in case of HOC the subject matter report was never tabled and the bill was moved as fast as possible and nobody asked the government about the report in any debate.

In the case of Senate also the pre study report will not be seen and the bill will be pushed to clause by clause study which is just a process because clearly opposition doesn't have any say.

For those who are meeting on June 30th , I guess it will be too late. If this bill has to become law then it is happening before June 27th.

 

[anon123]

I reflected more on this bill, I think it's too late now to change anything. We need to relax and accept it for what it is. May be it is not perfect but many other bills share its weaknesses. C-24 attracted our attention because it makes us wait longer before we can proudly carry our Canadian passports. A lot of people (like me) are bitter and looking at every clause under the microscope.
But may be it is because some of us come from countries with corrupt officials, we don't trust them, and we are afraid of every law which can be abused. This is not the Canadian way. May be the Minister is right, we should take the next 2 years to think about what it really means to be Canadian, to forget our bad experiences from home countries and learn to trust our politicians. It is probably for the best. If used wisely Bill C-24 will make our home a safer place. North America is not the place for philosophycal rights, but for opportunity and safety. Once a criminal, always a criminal. Thus, we should be extra careful, there are enough laws out there to destroy your life even for the smallest of infractions.