August 2014 Citizenship Applications

[Donvalley]

Its not my status. I was replying to Ronaldo's query as quoted. I got it from another thread but posted parts relevant to the query only.

 

[Donvalley]

If you are interested please check the discussion here :

July 2014 Citizenship Applications towards end of the page 33 ..andyhuhero

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/july-2014-citizenship-applications-t225926.480.html

 

[Donvalley]

It seems he failed to send the COMPLETE four years of school records...A common mistake; making an under-guess instead of following instructions.

 

[aspire]

If you are interested please check the discussion here :

July 2014 Citizenship Applications towards end of the page 33 ..andyhuhero

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/july-2014-citizenship-applications-t225926.480.html

The guy in this post went to school in the last 4 years preceding the date of his application. He should submit complete school records during this period. However, if one did not go to school during the last 4 years, there is no need to submit any school records. That is my understanding re submission of school records.

 

[Ronaldo Da Lima 89]

Thanks all for your comments.

It used to take 6-8 weeks. But now it takes 8-10 weeks.

I will wait another week then I will call them.

 

[Rossei]

What's the rush here? If your PRC is expiring soon; I can understand. Otherwise, it makes no sense to bother that much for a delay by 1~3 weeks.

 

[Ronaldo Da Lima 89]

The idea is not about the rush!!

Its about being sure that they have the file and its complete.

CIC has lost many files. You can read alot about this case in this forum.

I just want to be sure that they have my file and its complete. After that I dont care how long it will take.

@Rossei: Dont bother yourself by reading our concerns and comments!!

 

[Rossei]

The idea is not about the rush!!

Its about being sure that they have the file and its complete.

CIC has lost many files. You can read alot about this case in this forum.

"Many" is probably below 5% of the total files being processed.

I just want to be sure that they have my file and its complete. After that I dont care how long it will take.

@ Rossei: Dont bother yourself by reading our concerns and comments!!

I actually don't. But I do check this topic as I applied as well. Most so far are discussing when to expect AOR or has anyone received it. Very few are going crazy over it.

 

[Ronaldo Da Lima 89]

Lets say you are right and the CIC has lost just 5% of the applications. 5% is tooo much when you are talking about applications and important documents that CIC lost.

Applications should be kep in safe places, and one application ruins the image of CIC if they lose it!!

Some people spend too much money and time to get one document, especially if its from another country. Other than they have to prepare the whole appliation again and wait again. So its not an easy case and its worth the worrying.

 

[Donvalley]

Friends, With all due respect, no offense intended! Please be polite to each other, the Canadian way! Don't forget we are all aboard the same boat.

@ Ronaldo,

CIC has lost many files. You can read alot about this case in this forum.

My wisdom demands to trust the CIC, I believe they are not running a lousy system to process client applications. This is a Govt. machinery, unfortunately like anything Govt. this grinds very slow. So patience is important and the only way to go.

As you said many people reported lost files here in this forum, including some CIC agent's suggestions to re-send a second application.

I look into this scenario in a different way. Just imagine tons of applications waiting to process after initial scrutiny, incomplete files returned, waiting to enter into computer system. Remember, nothing is entered into any computer or no file no.s created. Even call center agents will not be able track it. Are they going to browse through the pile up just because you call them to check? Definitely NO. Some agents will say I can't see anything here, others say it is too early, some others will just read the script "24 months is the standard processing time for 80% applications" etc.etc. This does not mean that they have not received it, it just means that it has not been entered into their system yet. If you keep bothering they will turn the table to you and suggest to send another application so that you will not eat their head again!!! That is how it goes!

For my educated guess I have seen most of the cases who earlier reported missing files, received AOR later (see my next post below), though sometimes a bit late ; mostly after sending the second application in hurry.

They have tons of applications to process and will only answer your questions if it's serious. I believe it is hard to miss any applications once inside CIC; and would rather disbelieve the courier guys, not CIC if the application is missing. They don't like people calling them every day because they are busy. i.e. why they said it in advance here:

Note that you will not be able to view the status of your application through Client Application Status (CAS) until the visa office or case processing centre to which you sent your application begins processing it. Please do not contact the Call Centre—or, if you applied from outside Canada, the Canadian embassy, high commission or consulate overseas—regarding any application unless the standard application processing time has passed.

Again here:

The table below shows the processing time from receipt of application to final decision for 80% of cases processed between July 1, 2013 and June 30, 2014:

Routine citizenship applications
24 months

Non-routine citizenship applications
35 months

Once you receive your acknowledgment letter, you can also check your file's status online.

Note: If it has been longer than the time shown above since you applied and you need more information, please contact the Call Centre.

 

[Donvalley]

See quoted from other threads to see people received AOR after first reported missing/lost file!


Lost
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I sent my 1st application in June 7 and it has been more than 3 mos and I haven't had any update from CIC on my ECAS or any returned application. I have contacted them several times and each agent I talked to would say that my app might have been returned or lost in the mail and that it would be best to send a second application. A few June applicants from the June thread have the same experience and some of them received email notifications already but not me so I decided to send a 2nd app. just to relieve me of my anxiety. Am from Windsor area btw.

AOR

I suggest you do online case specific inquiry as soon as possible and include your present address and a copy of your payment receipt. This might help. I got an email confirmation today that they received my application on June 13 after I did my online inquiry. Their first reply was after a week asking for my current address and a copy of my receipt which i sent quickly and 2 days later i got this email confirmation but still no Ecas. Like you, I didn't include my work records and out of anxiety of lost or returned mail and suggestions from CIC call agents i re sent a second application that was received on Sept 19th, my 2nd application included my work records, t4s and NOAs. Wink

Lost

I did apply on June 19, 2014 for citizenship and it was received and signed by a CIC agent, and I saw the sign tracking on UPS, however, when I called them today, they said to me there is nothing even a confirmation of receipt is not there and they told me that they have not received any thing, although the signature was there but I was told it is lost and I was recommended to send another application and it was pain the head to do all the work again and I did send it by express courier again.
my question, did any one applied on the 19, and 20 June 2014 and have not heard any thing yet.

thanks

AOR

I am now in the September 2014 group but also registered in June 2014 group. Today I did receive an email from CIC confirming the receive of my 19 June 2014 application. More than three months (close to four months) they did confirm the receive of my June application after I was told by a online CIC agent who recommended me on September 11, 2014 to submit another application as my June 2014 application was lost.
too sad but good.

Yes before you send your second application use case specific enquiry.so many of us including myself got a response from call centre that application is returned or lost.But we now see that our applications are there in CIC and getting processed.so please do not spend money send out another application and again spend energy in ensuring that the second application is withdrawn etc.

Finally !! Email from CIC confirming my file number.
I was at Post Office Parking lot with all the documents to send second application. My phone beeped and I checked my email.
Looks like online case specific enquiry works. Checked online status but No eCas update yet.

 

[catchvb]

Guys, I am June applicant and they have some system change. You guys should not be worried about your file. Call center agents mostly reply Lost/Never Received. They have no clue.
Go to June forum and check lot of them do not have Ecas activated nor received AOR.
Some (people like me) got email saying we received your application and it is waiting for agent to be assigned.
Looks like lot of people applied in June/July and also CIC is undergoing some system/process change.
If you are still worried raise a case-specific enquiry (with as much details you can) and they should reply you in 3-weeks.

All the best

 

[Donvalley]

That is my point too..Anything less than 3-4 months is too early to worry about. It was like 2-3 months for AOR recently but the system changes and high volume turned in June due to C-24 panic will definitely make the first response nothing short of 3-4 months.

No need to worry guys. If we don't see anything by December first week generate a case specific query, give the call center agents a break until then.

If we receive anything much earlier that will be the return package. Wish and pray we don't get it.

 

[FIYAZALI]

New Citizenship Applications RULE

According to the new rule, those wishing to be permanent residents will have to stay in Canada for at least 1,460 days, including 183 days for tax purposes, and will have to pay Canadian tax.
They will also have to stay in Canada for six years before applying for Canadian citizenship.

 

[Donvalley]

Re: New Citizenship Applications RULE

According to the new rule, those wishing to be permanent residents will have to stay in Canada for at least 1,460 days, including 183 days for tax purposes, and will have to pay Canadian tax.
They will also have to stay in Canada for six years before applying for Canadian citizenship.

That part of the rule, i.e. 1,460 days out of six years is still not activated. Most of the changes in effect now, are administrative and legislative:

Citizenship Improvements Now In Force
Important changes to strengthen Canadian citizenship and speed up application processing come into force August 1, 2014. The provisions were included in Bill C-24, the Strengthening Canadian Citizenship Act, which became Canadian law on June 19, 2014.

The reforms that took effect on August 1, 2014 include:
New decision-making model
Complete applications
Judicial review and appeal process
Authority to abandon a citizenship application
Other provisions already in force
Provisions from Bill C-24 that came into force on June 19, 2014 (immediately upon Royal Assent) include: fast tracking citizenship applications for members of the Canadian Armed Forces; improving clarity on the First Generation Limit on citizenship for those born abroad; enabling children born abroad to serving Crown servants to pass on citizenship to their children born or adopted abroad; and streamlined decision making for issuing Discretionary Grants under section (5)(4).