Spousal sponsorship

[ripul]

Sorry to bother you. In the my wife's ECOPR address is mentioned is my previous address. Can she change the address when she land in the Canada?

Yes, she can ask the officer directly at the Airport to change the address. Else, you may need to call IRCC or a webform after landing here.

 

[YVR123]

Sorry to bother you. In the my wife's ECOPR address is mentioned is my previous address. Can she change the address when she land in the Canada?

I am confused. Is she outside of Canada or inside?
eCOPR usually is only provided to be downloaded for applicant that's already inside Canada.
The process is different.

She can call to change her address. Or if she really is outside and didn't get a "eCOPR", then she can update her address when she enter/land in Canada.

 

[Mayank_Patel]

I am confused. Is she outside of Canada or inside?
eCOPR usually is only provided to be downloaded for applicant that's already inside Canada.
The process is different.

She can call to change her address. Or if she really is outside and didn't get a "eCOPR", then she can update her address when she enter/land in Canada.

Outside of canada. ECOPR or CPR (what ever you called) document came with the stamped passport.

 

[YVR123]

Outside of canada. ECOPR or CPR (what ever you called) document came with the stamped passport.

Well, I hope they are not calling that eCOPR which would confused ppl with the official eCOPR that inland applicant download after they finish the PR process.

This one you can't just use it as its since it needs stamp when PA lands at the border. For inland, they can just download it and it's all done and official.

I tho outland download "COPR" but who knows if IRCC changes the wordings again.

 

[T&T2024]

Hi, can i sponsor my spouse while im in school part time and also have a full time job? im a PR

Yes.

 

[Artemgh]

Hello everyone, please advise what to do in my situation.
We applied for sponsorship of spouses and without waiting for the AOR we applied for a visitor visa, 3 days before the decision on the visitor visa the AOR arrived, we sent this AOR by mail as proof that our application for sponsorship was accepted for consideration. But the visitor visa was refused.
Are my assumptions correct that the officer looked at the application for a visitor visa and there was no AOR attached, and they did not have time to see the letter that was sent. I read information that you need to apply for a visitor visa after you receive the AOR.
There is one reason for the refusal:
• I am not sure that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as required by
paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/reg ... -2002-227/
section-179.html). I am rejecting your application because you have not proven that you will
leave Canada based on the following factors:
• You do not have significant family ties outside of Canada.

If I apply again, will I be rejected for this reason again? Please respond.
Naturally, I do not plan to leave Canada because we applied for sponsorship and my wife (PR) and my biological son (Canadian citizen) are in Canada.

 

[KelownaBound]

Any Ideas?
Outland Application. Spouse who is sponsor is Canadian citizen, I'm a Brit; both long term international teachers, but reaching retirement. We have a house in BC waiting for us, our two daughters are Canadian citizens and live in Ontario so hoping the application will go through trouble-free.

Submitted applications in early September; sponsor and applicant submissions approved and active in early October. Received request and completed the biometrics mid November. Not heard about medical yet.

In September I submitted all police clearance certificates since age of 18. However, I couldn't get a police clearance from HK as they require an IRCC request (lived there 1996-2023.) I hope with the other five clean police clearance certificates submitted IRCC won't require it as that will delay the process by two months.

Anyone had experience of this?

Second question: Once we get final approval, how long can you delay before 'landing'? I heard the mandated medical lasts one year, but can be redone. Wife, the sponsor, wants to work one more school year through to July 2026 before making the move.

Third Question: if my sponsor returns to Canada, 'landing' with me, I assume she has to take up full-time residence and can't 'land me' and head back overseas to complete an August-July teaching contract she might be in the middle of?

 

[prasannas]

So you are in the situation that you want to sponsor your foreign spouse for permanent residency of Canada and don't know where to start. Here are some tips:

Married, common law or conjugal partners

First you need to pick an application class. There are three of them: married, common-law and conjugal. For all of them, you need to prove the genuineity of your relationship. For common-law, you need to prove that you have lived together for 12 months or longer. For conjugal, you need to prove that you have combined your affairs as much as possible but there are real immigration barriers or other barriers preventing you from living together or getting married. Conjugal is the hardest to prove. For example, if your partner could get a visit visa to come to Canada for 6 months and then apply for an extension to get the full year, even though they will not be allowed to work, that is not considered an immigration barrier. An immigration barrier is if your partner tries to get a visit visa to come to Canada and is repeatedly refused. Some people have had luck with the conjugal class but try to avoid it if possible.

Outland or inland?

Now you need to decide if to apply outland or inland. If your spouse is not in Canada and can not get a visa to go to Canada, you must apply outland. That means that you will send your application to Mississauga and they will approve you as a sponsor. The time that takes is usually 1-2 months to but current processing times can be seen here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship After that, the application is forwarded to your local visa office. If your spouse is residing in a country other than the country of their nationality, you can pick which of the two visa offices you want. Otherwise it will be processed in their country of nationality. You can see the processing times here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/05-fc-spouses.asp

If your spouse is staying in Canada as a visitor or on some other visa, you can pick whether you want to apply outland or inland. Outland is generally faster and has appeal rights but a downside to outland is that if an interview is required, your spouse will have to travel to the visa office in the country where it's being processed. Inland has the downside that it's generally not advised that your spouse travels while you are waiting for your processing because it is a requirement of inland that they reside in Canada and if they are denied entry at the border for some reason, your application is gone. If an interview is required for inland, you may also have to wait a long time for it. The inland application would be sent to Vegreville and if all goes well, you would get a first stage approval, usually in 6 to 8 months. The current processing times can be seen here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#perm_res Then the file is forwarded to your local CIC office where you live and they will contact you for a landing appointment. Getting the PR with inland usually takes 12-18 months. If an interview is required for inland, Vegreville will not give first stage approval but instead will forward the application to the local CIC office without it and you will have to wait for them to have time for your interview. In some cases that can take a year or two. If you do get the first stage approval, your spouse will usually be eligible for health care and an open work permit. It is actually a good idea when applying inland to send an application form for a visit visa extension as well as the open work permit to be given at first stage approval all in one package so it's tied together.

Which method to pick depends on your situation. If your spouses country of nationality has a long processing time or your spouse does not want to have to travel there for a possible interview, then inland is the way to go. For faster processing and freedom of travel during the processing time, outland would be better. You can find the application forms for inland at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/spouse.asp and the application forms for outland at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

Avoiding potential problems with your application

The most common reason for people to be called for an interview is that the visa officer has doubts about the relationship being genuine. It is up to you to send immigration some quality data, emails, chat logs, phone records, photos, letters and other material to prove to them that your relationship is the real thing. Other reasons you might have problems with is eligibility of the sponsor. The sponsor can not be on social assistance, can not be bankrupt and can not have a record of violent crimes or crimes against family members. If that is the case, better talk to a lawyer and get that cleared up before attempting to apply.

Dependent children

If your spouse has dependent children, they must be included in the PR application, even if they are not coming to Canada. They will need to have medicals as well to keep the option open to sponsor them later. The only way that immigration will accept the application without those medicals is if the children are no longer minors and refuse to have it or if the children are in the full custody of their other parent who refuses to make them available for medicals. In that case, your spouse needs to sign a statement stating that they know that they will never be able to sponsor these children to Canada in the future.

Dependent children are classified as single and either under 22 years of age or if they are older, they must have been full time students since before age 22 or dependent on their parent due to a disability or medical problem.

Refusals due to income and medicals

You will be asked to provide information about your income but you will not be denied to sponsor your spouse and dependent children because you do not make enough money. It is possible though that if you make absolutely no money at all that immigration may ask you how you plan to support yourselves.

Spouses and dependent children are also exempt from the clause about excessive demand on health care so you do not have to worry about them being refused for that reason.

Sponsoring your spouse while living in another country

If you are a Canadian citizen, you can sponsor your spouse without being in Canada but you do then have to prove that you are planning on moving to Canada when your spouse gets approved for permanent residency. Such proof can include having arranged jobs, being accepted to college, having arranged housing or letters from friends & relatives stating that they know of your plans and that you can stay with them while you look for housing etc.

If you are a PR, you must reside in Canada in order to sponsor your spouse. You can chance short vacations (remember that a Canadian vacation is generally no longer than 2 weeks) but if immigration finds out that you are not in Canada, you risk getting your application refused.

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[prasannas]

Any Ideas?
Outland Application. Spouse who is sponsor is Canadian citizen, I'm a Brit; both long term international teachers, but reaching retirement. We have a house in BC waiting for us, our two daughters are Canadian citizens and live in Ontario so hoping the application will go through trouble-free.

Submitted applications in early September; sponsor and applicant submissions approved and active in early October. Received request and completed the biometrics mid November. Not heard about medical yet.

In September I submitted all police clearance certificates since age of 18. However, I couldn't get a police clearance from HK as they require an IRCC request (lived there 1996-2023.) I hope with the other five clean police clearance certificates submitted IRCC won't require it as that will delay the process by two months.

Anyone had experience of this?

Second question: Once we get final approval, how long can you delay before 'landing'? I heard the mandated medical lasts one year, but can be redone. Wife, the sponsor, wants to work one more school year through to July 2026 before making the move.

Third Question: if my sponsor returns to Canada, 'landing' with me, I assume she has to take up full-time residence and can't 'land me' and head back overseas to complete an August-July teaching contract she might be in the middle of?

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[Naturgrl]

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[armoured]

Any Ideas?
Outland Application. Spouse who is sponsor is Canadian citizen, I'm a Brit; both long term international teachers, but reaching retirement. We have a house in BC waiting for us, our two daughters are Canadian citizens and live in Ontario so hoping the application will go through trouble-free.

Submitted applications in early September; sponsor and applicant submissions approved and active in early October. Received request and completed the biometrics mid November. Not heard about medical yet.

In September I submitted all police clearance certificates since age of 18. However, I couldn't get a police clearance from HK as they require an IRCC request (lived there 1996-2023.) I hope with the other five clean police clearance certificates submitted IRCC won't require it as that will delay the process by two months.

Anyone had experience of this?

Second question: Once we get final approval, how long can you delay before 'landing'? I heard the mandated medical lasts one year, but can be redone. Wife, the sponsor, wants to work one more school year through to July 2026 before making the move.

Third Question: if my sponsor returns to Canada, 'landing' with me, I assume she has to take up full-time residence and can't 'land me' and head back overseas to complete an August-July teaching contract she might be in the middle of?

For police certificate, you'll just have to wait, and see whether they request it, unfortunately.

-On final arrival, you need to complete the landing procedure by actually arriving in Canada - but you can leave the next day if you like. (There are some minor formalities you should take care of, so consider you do it during a visit). This is generally called a soft landing and is not a problem.

-Note: later you need to comply with the residency obligation (730 days in five years from day of landing), but if you return to reside in a year, you're fine.

-Overall the issue of your spouse doing an extra year of wrok abroad is fine. Note you MIGHT run into tax issues as a couple - not my area of expertise.

 

[armoured]

If I apply again, will I be rejected for this reason again? Please respond.

It's unfortunate you didn't wait for AOR in this case.

No-one will be able to tell you whether applying again will help and get it approved.

Personally I'd suggest applying again, include the AOR, specifically refer to the policy about family reunification and note that your biological child is in Canada (with your spouse, I assume?).

We don't know if they will respond with the same refusal. Still worth a try.

 

[prasannas]

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[Artemgh]

It's unfortunate you didn't wait for AOR in this case.

No-one will be able to tell you whether applying again will help and get it approved.

Personally I'd suggest applying again, include the AOR, specifically refer to the policy about family reunification and note that your biological child is in Canada (with your spouse, I assume?).

We don't know if they will respond with the same refusal. Still worth a try.

thank you, yes my wife is in Canada with our child

 

[YVR123]

Stop multi posting with “TEST”.

I have reported the user but admin hasn't done anything yet.