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geedsey20

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Sep 9, 2013
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Manila, Philippines
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04-09-2013
AOR Received.
04-09-2013 (no email)
File Transfer...
24-09-2013 SA approved
Med's Done....
11-07-2013
Passport Req..
13-05-2014 (Passport Received by CEM 20-05-2014)
VISA ISSUED...
11-07-2014 Visa Pickup
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18-07-2014 Thankyou Lord
princessice said:
Hi mapletree are you both Filipino? I would like to suggest for you to get back to where you had your civil marriage processed. Verify with the local civil registrar with regard to the registration of your papers for NSO documentation. Get a copy of their transmittal to NSO and from there, verify with NSO if they (Local Civil Registrar) indeed processed the forwarding of your papers to NSO for record purposes. Get a copy from NSO and attach the receipt. Have your documents authenticated at DFA (red ribbon). I believe from that phase (where you had your marriage certificate authenticated), DFA will be able to check if your papers are not fraudulent. That's the reason I had all our NSO issued documents authenticated prior to submission to CIC, and also, JUST to be REALLY REALLY sure that our local civil registrar indeed forwarded our marriage certificate to NSO, we had someone go to the main NSO branch to get us a copy of the marriage certificat and CENOMARS.
Hi princessice ..juz curious here.. dba once our MC released from NSO it means its Legit and registered already?? wat do you think the problem here with Mapple Tree case? thanks
 

0weng

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Jan 9, 2014
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Canada
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-08-2013
AOR Received.
08-08-2013
File Transfer...
03-09-2013
Med's Done....
07-06-2013
Passport Req..
May 29, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
May 29, 2014
LANDED..........
Expected June 7, 2014
Maple tree's post stired up the mood in this forum.. Now it also bothers me.In my opinion it seems like their marriage was'nt propely registered at the NSO.
 

mr.peace

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Apr 15, 2011
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Visa Office......
Manila, Phils.
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 2, 2013
Doc's Request.
October 24, 2013
AOR Received.
April 17, 2013
File Transfer...
April 23, 2013
Med's Done....
March 20, 2013
Passport Req..
Sep 27, 2013 F.Beronia Recv'd PP: Oct 15, 2013 V.O. returned PP: Nov 1, 2013 Resent PP....: Dec 27, 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 26, 2014 received but dated March 20.
LANDED..........
April xx, 2014
maple tree said:
My husband and I were married in the Philippines. It was a civil marriage because I was just there for a month. I processed his papers last march 2013. On September 24,2013, he received an email from manila immigration requiring him to submit his original passport, original NSO Advisory on Marriages for himself and an additional document. He then gathered all the requirements and he submitted it on the last day of October 2014. We were waiting for the results until last Monday April 28, they emailed both of us. The email was shown below.. I was so frustrated with this letter and I don't know what to do. My husband is not married before and we legally processed our marriage contract. What are the immigrations bases that the documents submitted to them were fraudulent? Thanks



Visa Section
Level 6, Tower 2, RCBC Plaza
6819 Ayala Avenue
Makati City 1200
Philippines
P.O. Box 2168
Makati Central Post Office
Makati City 1200
Philippines

This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.
Your application and all of the documents you submitted in support of it have been reviewed and it
appears that you may not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.
Subsection 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) provides that a foreign national
must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or any other document required by the
Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations. The visa or document shall be issued if, following an
examination, the officer is satisfied that the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the
requirements of the Act.
I have concerns that you have not fulfilled the requirement put upon you by subsection 16(1) of the
Immigration and Refugee Protection Act which states:
16(1) A person who makes an application must answer truthfully all questions put to them for the
purpose of the examination and must produce a visa and all relevant evidence and documents
that the officer reasonable requires.
Specifically, I have concerns that the NSO Advisory on Marriages and NSO Cenomar which you have
provided in support of your application are fraudulent.
Please note that if it is found that you have engaged in misrepresentation in submitting your application
for a permanent residence, you may be found to be inadmissible under section 40(1)(a) of the
Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. A finding of such inadmissibility would render you
inadmissible to Canada for a period of two years according to section 40(2)(a):
40(1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation
(a) for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a
relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act
40(2) The following provisions govern subsection (1):
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(a) the permanent resident or the foreign national continues to be inadmissible for misrepresentation for a period of two years following, in the case of a determination outside Canada, a final determination of inadmissibility under subsection (1) or, in the case of determination in Canada, the date the removal order is enforced.
Section 117(9) of the regulations states that no foreign national may be considered a member of the family class by virtue of their relationship to a sponsor if
(c) the foreign national is the sponsor's spouse and
(i) the sponsor or foreign national, was, at the time of their marriage, the spouse of another person.
I would like to provide you with the opportunity to respond to this information. Any evidence or submissions which you or your sponsor may wish to submit to this office for consideration in response to the concerns identified above must be received at our office within 45 days of the date of this letter. If you do not respond to this request within the period indicated, your application will be assessed based on the information currently on file and may result in the refusal of your application.
Only original documents or, when unavailable, certified documents are acceptable.
The file number noted above must be included on all correspondence with this office.
Sincerely,
Family Class Section Family Reunification Unit
Embassy of Canada, Manila
The issue here is not being married in a civil rite, but this "Specifically, I have concerns that the NSO Advisory on Marriages and NSO Cenomar which you have provided in support of your application are fraudulent." Baka kasi nagbayad ang asawa mo sa tagaloob ng NSO na mapabilis ang pagkuha nitong mga dokumento na ito at hindi dumaan sa tamang processo kaya yung dokumento lumalabas na fake kasi alam na ng mga taga Embassy ang totoong dokumento. O di kaya'y may mga impormasyon sa dokumenta na pinalitan? Mga possibility lamang, pero ang asawa mo ang nkakaalam ng totoo. But if you did not commit fraud, there's nothing to worry. Sagutin nyo yung Embassy, at mag request kayo ulit sa NSO yung mga documents na yan... Be strong and goodluck!
 

bray28

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Sep 8, 2013
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Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-09-2012
Doc's Request.
21-06-2013
File Transfer...
26-10-2012
Med's Done....
re-med 01-08-2013 remed 16-04-2014
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
March 19,2014 and IN process March 19, 2014 ppr recieved april 23,2013
VISA ISSUED...
Dm May 21,2014 visa on hand May 22,2014
LANDED..........
June 2014
0weng said:
Maple tree's post stired up the mood in this forum.. Now it also bothers me.In my opinion it seems like their marriage was'nt propely registered at the NSO.
sa tingin ko nung nag apply siya hindi complete yng paper niya kaya hinanapan siya nang AOM at saka maaga siya kinuhaan nang PPR kaya lang ang mga document niya ay hindi pa lahat na check kaya saka lang nila nalaman. Sa tingin ko yng mga matagal nag PPR yng mga document nila na check na.
 

zelhdjt

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Oct 29, 2013
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Visa Office......
Manila
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-07-2013
AOR Received.
17-08-2013
File Transfer...
27-08-2013
Med's Done....
21-06-2013
Passport Req..
26-04-2014
VISA ISSUED...
11-06-2014
LANDED..........
17-07-2014
lyka04 said:
HI zheldjt ask ko lang bakit pa cla ng request ng nbi syo?na expired ba nbi mo?
oh they did not request for my nbi when i received my passport request just the AOM. I was just saying that when i was gathering my documents, it was like you really needed to make an effort and time to get those certificates.
 

mr.peace

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Apr 15, 2011
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Manila, Phils.
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Pre-Assessed..
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April 2, 2013
Doc's Request.
October 24, 2013
AOR Received.
April 17, 2013
File Transfer...
April 23, 2013
Med's Done....
March 20, 2013
Passport Req..
Sep 27, 2013 F.Beronia Recv'd PP: Oct 15, 2013 V.O. returned PP: Nov 1, 2013 Resent PP....: Dec 27, 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 26, 2014 received but dated March 20.
LANDED..........
April xx, 2014
bray28 said:
sa tingin ko nung nag apply siya hindi complete yng paper niya kaya hinanapan siya nang AOM at saka maaga siya kinuhaan nang PPR kaya lang ang mga document niya ay hindi pa lahat na check kaya saka lang nila nalaman. Sa tingin ko yng mga matagal nag PPR yng mga document nila na check na.
Baka hindi nag tally ang information yung AOM na sinubmit nya kasama ng passport at ang CENOMAR na sinubmit nya nung nag submit ng application. Pero walng kinalaman ang katagalan ng passport request. Pare-pareho ang chinecheck nila bago mag passport request.
 

zelhdjt

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Oct 29, 2013
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Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-07-2013
AOR Received.
17-08-2013
File Transfer...
27-08-2013
Med's Done....
21-06-2013
Passport Req..
26-04-2014
VISA ISSUED...
11-06-2014
LANDED..........
17-07-2014
geedsey20 said:
Hi princessice ..juz curious here.. dba once our MC released from NSO it means its Legit and registered already?? wat do you think the problem here with Mapple Tree case? thanks
It could be many things why the immigration officer deemed that their NSO cenomar and advisory on marriage fraudulent.

My opinions are

1. There could be a first marriage of the filipino spouse which they did not declare to the embassy.
2. The Filipino spouse could be still married which the embassy could not acknowledge the marriage to the sponsor since the spouse is still married when they took their civil rite.
3. It could be that their marriage wasnt properly registered. It does not coincide with the time their license to get married differs from the date the marriage was registered to the NSO office (NSO is much earlier than that of the local civil registry office).
4. There are some error to the names / birthdate etc on the marriage certificate.
5.or when getting the certificates the spouse just asked some fixer to get the certificate which the fixer just print it on his own..
 

bray28

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Sep 8, 2013
147
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Category........
Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-09-2012
Doc's Request.
21-06-2013
File Transfer...
26-10-2012
Med's Done....
re-med 01-08-2013 remed 16-04-2014
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
March 19,2014 and IN process March 19, 2014 ppr recieved april 23,2013
VISA ISSUED...
Dm May 21,2014 visa on hand May 22,2014
LANDED..........
June 2014
mr.peace said:
Baka hindi nag tally ang information yung AOM na sinubmit nya kasama ng passport at ang CENOMAR na sinubmit nya nung nag submit ng application. Pero walng kinalaman ang katagalan ng passport request. Pare-pareho ang chinecheck nila bago mag passport request.
malaman talaga may problema sa nso nila kaya alam nang embassy hindi natin sila maloloko.
 

bray28

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Sep 8, 2013
147
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Category........
Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-09-2012
Doc's Request.
21-06-2013
File Transfer...
26-10-2012
Med's Done....
re-med 01-08-2013 remed 16-04-2014
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
March 19,2014 and IN process March 19, 2014 ppr recieved april 23,2013
VISA ISSUED...
Dm May 21,2014 visa on hand May 22,2014
LANDED..........
June 2014
mr.peace said:
Baka hindi nag tally ang information yung AOM na sinubmit nya kasama ng passport at ang CENOMAR na sinubmit nya nung nag submit ng application. Pero walng kinalaman ang katagalan ng passport request. Pare-pareho ang chinecheck nila bago mag passport request.
atsaka bago mag ppr nagcheck sila kung ok na yng mga papers mo
 

bray28

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Sep 8, 2013
147
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Category........
Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-09-2012
Doc's Request.
21-06-2013
File Transfer...
26-10-2012
Med's Done....
re-med 01-08-2013 remed 16-04-2014
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
March 19,2014 and IN process March 19, 2014 ppr recieved april 23,2013
VISA ISSUED...
Dm May 21,2014 visa on hand May 22,2014
LANDED..........
June 2014
zelhdjt said:
It could be many things why the immigration officer deemed that their NSO cenomar and advisory on marriage fraudulent.

My opinions are

1. There could be a first marriage of the filipino spouse which they did not declare to the embassy.
2. The Filipino spouse could be still married which the embassy could not acknowledge the marriage to the sponsor since the spouse is still married when they took their civil rite.
3. It could be that their marriage wasnt properly registered. It does not coincide with the time their license to get married differs from the date the marriage was registered to the NSO office (NSO is much earlier than that of the local civil registry office).
4. There are some error to the names / birthdate etc on the marriage certificate.
5.or when getting the certificates the spouse just asked some fixer to get the certificate which the fixer just print it on his own..
sa tingin ko rin lang yng sentence number 1 and 5..
 

princessice

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Sep 26, 2013
107
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Visa Office......
MANILA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
December 11, 2013
AOR Received.
December 17,2013
File Transfer...
December 24, 2013
Med's Done....
October 14, 2013
Passport Req..
June 18,2014
geedsey20 said:
Hi princessice ..juz curious here.. dba once our MC released from NSO it means its Legit and registered already?? wat do you think the problem here with Mapple Tree case? thanks
I am really not sure. She needs to verify from the Local Civil Registrar and get a copy of their TRANSMITTAL form. This is the proof that their papers were forwarded to NSO. I believe CIC verifies all submitted forms at each respective agency (NBI,NSO etc.) where the forms/certificates issued on security papers were issued to validate authenticity. She Needs to produce that their records are indeed authentic through NSO mismo.
 

bray28

Star Member
Sep 8, 2013
147
0
Category........
Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-09-2012
Doc's Request.
21-06-2013
File Transfer...
26-10-2012
Med's Done....
re-med 01-08-2013 remed 16-04-2014
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
March 19,2014 and IN process March 19, 2014 ppr recieved april 23,2013
VISA ISSUED...
Dm May 21,2014 visa on hand May 22,2014
LANDED..........
June 2014
geedsey20 said:
Hi princessice ..juz curious here.. dba once our MC released from NSO it means its Legit and registered already?? wat do you think the problem here with Mapple Tree case? thanks
i think kapag sa NSO mismo ka kumuha legit yon and tanung lang eh sa mismo ba NSO ba kinuha or baka fixer kaya ganun nangyari
 

rainshine

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Visa Office......
Manila
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
December 9,2013
AOR Received.
December 21, 2013
File Transfer...
January 22, 2014
Med's Request
Re-med request June 25, 2014 ,remed done July 10,2014, forwarded to CEM July 22,2014
Med's Done....
May 9, 2013
Passport Req..
June 25, 2014 (Sent June 26, 2014 and Representative Beronia received it June 27 2014
VISA ISSUED...
In process August 7, 2014 DM Sept. 1, 2014.
LANDED..........
October 2, 2014
mr.peace said:
Baka hindi nag tally ang information yung AOM na sinubmit nya kasama ng passport at ang CENOMAR na sinubmit nya nung nag submit ng application. Pero walng kinalaman ang katagalan ng passport request. Pare-pareho ang chinecheck nila bago mag passport request.

Hinihingi pa po ba talaga nila ang CENOMAR? kasi wala akong copy ng CENOMAR,naipasa ko sa munisipyo nong kumuha kami ng marriage contract,so kung hihingan pa ako ng CENOMAR..baka hindi ko maiprovide .worried ako ngayon..AOM is not a problem,CENOMAR lang kasi alam ko hindi na ako mabibigyan kasi may asawa na ako....pls help...
 

MarkandElvie

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Nov 21, 2013
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zelhdjt said:
sana nga po MrsP. Gusto ko ng malamn resulta eh..nakaktakot kasi nabasa mo ba yung post ni maple tree.. ngPPR na sya tapos hiningian din sya ng additional docs like advisory on marriage. tapos dahil dun narefuse sila fraudulent daw yun.
hi guys, oo nga kakatakot yung nangyari kay mapple tree.. i got ppr last april28 and submit the pp and some requirements including marriage advisory...now nakakatakot..