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Reasons for Rejection

maged_mmh

Champion Member
Nov 27, 2015
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168
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-12-2015
Nomination.....
11-2016
AOR Received.
6-12-2016
Med's Done....
16-12-2016
Achievement said:
Hi Gujjuboy,

It's really strange. I can not understand.

I am also in Qatar. I also have similar experience where i came initially on work visit visa. However, later on moved to Work residence permit.

Qatar PCC only got from the date of Residence permit which i submitted along with my E-Apr application. So far no rejection from CIC. Not only in my case but also my college who got his PPR.

In Personal history, i mentioned all the employment periods without any Gaps. Qatar PCC from the date of RP and Indian PCC from 18 years. It should not be problem in your case.

Please refer below my suggestions

1. Send CSE immediately explain the requirement of Qatar PCC and attach all your details related to your business trip( copy of business visa, tickets and other stuff). Tell them that you are on business visa. Qatar CID will only consider from the date of RP. Attached your employment contract and also include your Employment letter.

2. Create new profile and contact SINP to accept your new one.

I am sure they will re-open your case. No doubt.

Send me your personal contact number. so that i can call you as i am in Qatar.

Be cool. you are okay.
OMG!!!

I was working in Qatar from may 2006 till july 2010 however my RP there started from 2008 only!
I already requested the PCC through their embassy a month ago.
will I face similar situation?

also their embassy refused to issue a PCC for my wife, reason being she was on my sponsorship and they issue only PCCs if you are on work permit
 

alee667

Star Member
Jul 1, 2015
199
11
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2132
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-07-2015
Doc's Request.
04-12-2015
Nomination.....
22-12-2015
AOR Received.
26-01-2016
Med's Done....
Passed 28-01-2016
Passport Req..
22-06-2016
VISA ISSUED...
22-07-2016
LANDED..........
13-01-2017
maged_mmh said:
OMG!!!

I was working in Qatar from may 2006 till july 2010 however my RP there started from 2008 only!
I already requested the PCC through their embassy a month ago.
will I face similar situation?

also their embassy refused to issue a PCC for my wife, reason being she was on my sponsorship and they issue only PCCs if you are on work permit
My saudi PCC doesn't have a start date. It only have date of issue. Although I haven't lived in Saudi earlier and current stay is less than a year. Will it be a problem?
 

fkl

VIP Member
Apr 25, 2013
3,351
219
Canada
Visa Office......
Inland / Previously Pak
NOC Code......
2173/4
FWSAPPLICANT said:
Fkl,

IMO, One has to mention his correct address history, it's not about permanent or temporary. Not mentioning the correct address history where you have have lived in last 10 years is misrepresentation.

Those who are rejected based on Pcc is because they have submitted time bound PCCs like Mr John has been living on this address Xxxxx from 2013.

Technically one should provide PCCs covering all the time after he turned to 18 till to date. So, providing PCC from your current address provided that you have been living over there since you turned to 18 is enough in your opinion, on your PCC it should be mentioned like living on this address since birth or since 2000 (if you turned to 18 on 2000)
Sure I respect your thoughts and in the ideal scenario this is best. However, it is not practical for every one. Without going into too much details, I never lived in a family home since grade 6. So all in all I would have some thing like 22-23 addresses since the age of 18, spread across 3-4 major cities. Many of which, I do not have any proof of living with and couldn't even get Police certificate for while trying (e.g. a boarding school for grade 10 which no longer exists)

So the best case in such a situation (others might have too) would be to use your permanent address on official correspondence card (NIC) and get a PC from there.

There is nothing wrong with CIC's requirements. The weird part is in Pakistan where they always write address on PCs and they do not have correlation with other police station areas or cities.

Since your permanent address is your documented address in Pakistan and they verified there is no criminal liability, this should serve CIC's primary goal.

Note that address history is only asked for the last 10 years vs PC is asked since the age of 18. So it is possible that one fills both correctly and there is no misrepresentation.

The examples I have seen of others doing this worked and made sense to me (i.e. submitted PC stating permanent home address + mentioning the same in address history even if they worked in another city for a couple years - is just what I know people did and it worked).

I am not in CIC's shoes and am not for a minute trying to say this is officially the best route. It is just a work around when you don't have any other choice.

But meeting their requirements, in a system of a country with different regulations sometimes brings you to make some compromise.

FWIW, when I originally applied for work permit from Pakistan years ago, I got PCs - one from each city and filled those as it is (Submitted 3 PCs for myself and 3 for spouse which only I know how we got), writing an explanation letter along. So there never was/is a misrepresentation.

Of course this does not excuse any one who lived at just 2 addresses to not get two PCs.

But contradicting history with PCs is something that won't fly either. i.e. PC says "Have been living at address x since y" where as address history says address z since y for the same duration. So one should try to do their best.
 

gh6506

Star Member
Feb 25, 2015
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f1ahmed said:
Hi,

I am sharing my medical examination details:

IME: Non EDE
Upfront medical type: Worker

Examination required for this visa application:

501 Medical Examination
502 Chest X-ray examination
707 HIV test
712 Syphilis Test (VDRL or RPR)

Does your report contains all these tests? And what was the status of your medical in MyCIC? Hope you find a way to get out of this problem.
My e-medical information show:

IME: EDE
Upfront medical type: Family-EDE

Is it right for EE imigration ?
What IME EDE and Family-EDE mean?
Btw, i done medical in Toronto.

Thanks
 

fkl

VIP Member
Apr 25, 2013
3,351
219
Canada
Visa Office......
Inland / Previously Pak
NOC Code......
2173/4
gh6506 said:
My e-medical information show:

IME: EDE
Upfront medical type: Family-EDE

Is it right for EE imigration ?
What IME EDE and Family-EDE mean?
Btw, i done medical in Toronto.

Thanks
There have been a lot of cases with conflicting experiences in this. But assuming you are applying for PR visa express entry (i.e. it is not a spousal sponsorship application - spouse is not a PR yet), then it should say Non EDE.

EDE is excessive demand exempt: If you are spouse of a Canadian permanent resident then you are EDE because even if you have an issue that costs burden on Canadian health care system, you are still eligible since they cannot separate an existing PR from spouse. This is for spousal sponsorship application (NOT IN EXPRESS ENTRY)

However, if you are a new PR applicant alone or as a family, you are not EDE and are evaluated for all sorts of medical details for possible risk of excessive demand. If it is you could be admissible to Canada on health grounds. Issue with health of one family member could result in ineligibility of entire family.

So all regular medicals done via express entry are NON EDE and generally would say that. Family-EDE term in the second field is fine.

You better confirm with your doctor if your medicals were submitted for PR via Express Entry and not for temporary residence.
 

gh6506

Star Member
Feb 25, 2015
76
17
fkl said:
There have been a lot of cases with conflicting experiences in this. But assuming you are applying for PR visa express entry (i.e. it is not a spousal sponsorship application - spouse is not a PR yet), then it should say Non EDE.

EDE is excessive demand exempt: If you are spouse of a Canadian permanent resident then you are EDE because even if you have an issue that costs burden on Canadian health care system, you are still eligible since they cannot separate an existing PR from spouse. This is for spousal sponsorship application (NOT IN EXPRESS ENTRY)

However, if you are a new PR applicant alone or as a family, you are not EDE and are evaluated for all sorts of medical details for possible risk of excessive demand. If it is you could be admissible to Canada on health grounds. Issue with health of one family member could result in ineligibility of entire family.

So all regular medicals done via express entry are NON EDE and generally would say that. Family-EDE term in the second field is fine.

You better confirm with your doctor if your medicals were submitted for PR via Express Entry and not for temporary residence.
Thanks for reply!
I am single, no family member alone with me in my ee application
So, as you say, IME should be NON EDE?
I will contact my doctor to confirm
Thank you again!
 

fkl

VIP Member
Apr 25, 2013
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Canada
Visa Office......
Inland / Previously Pak
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2173/4
gh6506 said:
Thanks for reply!
I am single, no family member alone with me in my ee application
So, as you say, IME should be NON EDE?
I will contact my doctor to confirm
Thank you again!
Yes it should ideally be NON EDE though I have heard of cases where they wrote all sorts of different combinations of these fields (EDE for Express entry and vice versa). As long as your doctor submitted a copy of say your ITA along or at least made it clear through some other means that this medical is for Express entry - Permanent residence, you should be fine.
 

doitnow

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Feb 1, 2015
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Hi all,

I Got my 2 police certificates for 2 different residential addresses covering the entire duration of stay. However there is a small typographical mistake in address in one of the certificate. My house no is "A-553" but in the certificate it is wrongly typed as "A-A-553" (Double prefix - one extra ) , but the remaining portion of the address is correct . Also DOB, CNIC NO , PASSPORT NO , DATE OF ISSUE FOR BOTH CNIC AND PASSPORT and everything is correct . It also has my photograph affixed and stamped .

I am planning to attach a LOE to explain the extra prefix thing , but i need to know if it is a big error ? should i apply for a new one ? Police station told me that i have to apply for a new one and no correction can be made upon existing certificate.

regards.
 

deepak12

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Jun 5, 2015
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maged_mmh said:
OMG!!!

I was working in Qatar from may 2006 till july 2010 however my RP there started from 2008 only!
I already requested the PCC through their embassy a month ago.
will I face similar situation?

also their embassy refused to issue a PCC for my wife, reason being she was on my sponsorship and they issue only PCCs if you are on work permit

hi ....I worked/visited Qatar twice with a 1o day break in between in business visa...also didn't stay during the 2nd visit for full 90 days for which the business visas are valid..the break is mandatory as legal exit from Qatar is necessary on the 90th day of stay in business visa... I didn't hold a work permit or resident permit ...

I approached the Qatar embassy in New Delhi checking the possibilities of getting a PCC. They replied in mail that Qatar gives PCC only for work permit holders and Resident Permit holders who have stayed in Qatar for more than one year...

in the PCC upload section I have written a LOE explaining my situation and attached the emails between me and Qatar embassy regarding this...

members please suggest will this suffice as technically there is no way to obtain PCC from Qatar in my case..
 

Sanazeh

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Mar 21, 2014
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I have been trying to read this complete thread but there are like 168 pages which is consuming ALOT of time. So my question is, has anyone been rejected on the basis of financial proof yet? My bank hasn't provided me the letter in the exact format CIC requires. I have a bank certificate issued which states my name, the date account was opened, current balance. It doesn't give my six months average balance and bank's email or fax. Only includes a number. I am attaching my six months bank statement to cover the average balance part. Should I include a LOE? Also, what are the cases where CIC rejected someone on something related to financial proof

If anyone has read or gone through it, please share!
 

bestofluck

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Aug 11, 2015
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Sanazeh said:
I have been trying to read this complete thread but there are like 168 pages which is consuming ALOT of time. So my question is, has anyone been rejected on the basis of financial proof yet? My bank hasn't provided me the letter in the exact format CIC requires. I have a bank certificate issued which states my name, the date account was opened, current balance. It doesn't give my six months average balance and bank's email or fax. Only includes a number. I am attaching my six months bank statement to cover the average balance part. Should I include a LOE? Also, what are the cases where CIC rejected someone on something related to financial proof

If anyone has read or gone through it, please share!
it is okay it differs from bank to bank. so far the information is correct its ok
 

T365

Hero Member
Mar 22, 2015
447
32
NOC Code......
2171
Great timing as I have a related inquiry.

For proof of financial support, do we have to submit bank certificates and bank statements for ALL bank accounts we have per bank?
Or do we need to just show bank certs and statements for account/s where the fund is placed?

For my case I have a personal account and another payroll account. I did not include the payroll account as the balance is small and fluctuates heavily.

Please advise. Thank you!
 

krsenthilkumaran

Star Member
Sep 11, 2014
121
2
124
Chennai,India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2283
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-01-2016
Nomination.....
03-11-2015
AOR Received.
16-01-2016
Med's Done....
22-01-2016
Passport Req..
26-04-2016
T365 said:
Great timing as I have a related inquiry.

For proof of financial support, do we have to submit bank certificates and bank statements for ALL bank accounts we have per bank?
Or do we need to just show bank certs and statements for account/s where the fund is placed?

For my case I have a personal account and another payroll account. I did not include the payroll account as the balance is small and fluctuates heavily.

Please advise. Thank you!
Just that is fine :)
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Apr 29, 2015
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Sanazeh said:
I have been trying to read this complete thread but there are like 168 pages which is consuming ALOT of time. So my question is, has anyone been rejected on the basis of financial proof yet? My bank hasn't provided me the letter in the exact format CIC requires. I have a bank certificate issued which states my name, the date account was opened, current balance. It doesn't give my six months average balance and bank's email or fax. Only includes a number. I am attaching my six months bank statement to cover the average balance part. Should I include a LOE? Also, what are the cases where CIC rejected someone on something related to financial proof

If anyone has read or gone through it, please share!
LOE is not required. Not all banks provide you with 6 months average balance on the letter!

As long as your letter on the letterpad of the bank and it mentions your name, account number, date of opening and funds available and you are attaching 6 months bank statements along with it, you are good to go!
 

krsenthilkumaran

Star Member
Sep 11, 2014
121
2
124
Chennai,India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2283
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-01-2016
Nomination.....
03-11-2015
AOR Received.
16-01-2016
Med's Done....
22-01-2016
Passport Req..
26-04-2016
gh6506 said:
Thanks for reply!
I am single, no family member alone with me in my ee application
So, as you say, IME should be NON EDE?
I will contact my doctor to confirm
Thank you again!
Im fsw outland.

Mine was family EDE only. My medicals were passed :)