Ray of Hope - 47th Draw
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7k is a huge number, and will take 7 months to clear... its not like only CIC guys are there in the pool, there will be PNP candidates, normal candidates with high scores etc... only people who wont be there (i mean not that many) are LMIA candidates...fatani said:
we also have to factor in work experience, most of the 7k candidates are probably employed in canada for 1+ year, so thats more points for them anyway... if they add non LMIA approved work permits n stuff, thats another 50 points ... so the inflated pool will be a lot bigger than we think
As far as I know, it's very difficult for Chinese students to get 8777 for IELTS. They can achive an overall score of 7~7.5, but 8777 needs tremendous efforts.7fifty said:
Since Chinese students constitute a big chunk of internatinal students (at least this is the case in the UK, not sure about Canada), I tend to agree with Fatani.
You are also forgetting following:
1. NAFTA workers (+50 points), more might be interested to immigrate
2. Work permit on employer (even if temporary) +50 points
3. Mobilite Francophone - first batch will start to recieve +50 points from summer 2017 onwards.
4. Students - in some cases can cash points as listed above
If you just imagine calculation of somebody with French or from NAFTA to take just 1 year of MBA studies and cash 30 points (and yes they will cash that as MBA is in the same range as Master and as admission their own studies can be used). And then taking 1 year work after that and cashing 30 + 30 + 50 points with it (while loosing 10 points). Now how many of those already have their 1 years study and all they need is finish their 1 year work there.
Once the first backlog of students will be cleared all this come in play.
But we will see a bit more once we will know our ranking in the system as well. That shall give clearer idea just how much movement is over there.
1. NAFTA workers (+50 points), more might be interested to immigrate
2. Work permit on employer (even if temporary) +50 points
3. Mobilite Francophone - first batch will start to recieve +50 points from summer 2017 onwards.
4. Students - in some cases can cash points as listed above
If you just imagine calculation of somebody with French or from NAFTA to take just 1 year of MBA studies and cash 30 points (and yes they will cash that as MBA is in the same range as Master and as admission their own studies can be used). And then taking 1 year work after that and cashing 30 + 30 + 50 points with it (while loosing 10 points). Now how many of those already have their 1 years study and all they need is finish their 1 year work there.
Once the first backlog of students will be cleared all this come in play.
But we will see a bit more once we will know our ranking in the system as well. That shall give clearer idea just how much movement is over there.
No it will not take 7 months. Now from 19th nov most numbers of ITAs will go to students. Because they are the ones who got bonuses. And I think 65-70% of the ITAs will go to students above 450. So if they are 7K and if even 1.2-1.3K students gets ITAs considering we will have above 2K draws now. So it will mean 2.5K students getting cleared in a month in this case it will at max 3 months or 6 draws to get them cleared.thestunner316 said:
Secondly here in this forum we think that there are 1-2 million profiles are in the pool if you check 2 EE reports mid year 2015 and year end 2015. You will know that there are only 40-60K profiles. If you double it still you will get 100K profiles considering out of 60K on jan 2016 25K of them got ITA. But still suppose there are 100K.
And another point on over estimation lots of people in this forum said when the score was not going below 483 that now its been 6 months that the score has not gone below 482 so there will be 5-6K applicants on 481. As 481 is the max you can get as a single applicant without canadian connections. But still it needed only 1800 ITAs to clear the range from 475-483. That why I say we people over estimate a lot. Many people also said that 480 is the new 450. CIC will not increase the draw size but what happend now the draw size are bigger and scores came to 472. Proving all of them wrong.
I think your 2nd point is incorrect. Only 3 work permit holders after 1 yr of exp will be able to get 50 points. That are NAFTA , ICT and francophones. If they want to immigrate there human capital should also have to be good. And forget about work permits. As an FSW you dont have any connection but still you want to immigrate. So if they want to they will. They will not think like now we have 50 points so we should immigrate. So I think that does not matter much.vensak said:
Agreed Chinese are bad at English but they somehow manage to clear if not crack the exams. I had a ton of Chinese students studying with me in US, which makes it obvious that they cleared GRE and TOEFL. Also I haven't seen a single Chinese post in these canadian forums. I doubt if in large numbers they are interested in settling in Canada.jianxia15 said:
why are we assuming the students only have 1 year experience... i'm sure quite a few of them are pursuing/completed masters there after having atleast 2-3 years of expeirnece in home countries..fatani said:
and i was 100% sure about the 481 max backlog crap... 5k people being stuck there... i mean cmon its express entry not an indian college entrance exam for crying out loud...
but someone made a very good point about chinese students, that constitutes the most number of applicants (not indians, though we tend to think like that ha ha ) so yeah their english scores in general might not be that high... competent yes, but not outstanding....
1. No, as a single applicant without any Canada connection you can get more that that - up to 518 (110 for age, 100 for full transferability, 150 for PhD, 134 for first language, 24 for second language).fatani said:
2. Yes, they had decreased LMIA, but at the same time, there is now larger group of people who will recieve bonus 50 points for their arranged employment without need of LMIA.
To put is simple - take around 50% applicants from range 400-450 and put them in the range 450-490 and you will see the result for cut off.
I am in a Job Fair in Paris now on the Canada Immigration and the moderator just spoke about the new changes to the system. As Kryt0n pointed out, everyone who has ITA before 19th November will not be affected by the new modalities. So i'm sorry if there's no draw tomorrow, your points will reduce!!!kryt0n said: