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OINP - EE - Human Capital Priorities Stream - Comprehensive Guide

tpurohit

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Feb 5, 2016
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Category........
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
12-JAN-2017
Med's Done....
29-DEC-2016
SRI_BLR2016 said:
Do you have 1 year of experience in Canada in same job code within last three years to be eligible for CEC?

I guess you have shown 1 year of foreign experience in your profile and don't have documents to support it. Can't you get a reference letter from your supervisor or someone showing those dates? Anyway for the OINP nomination under CEC, you don't have to send this letter as you are not claiming the point. This may be needed later for PR applications and may not be an important document as you applying as provincial nominated candidate. I afraid whether they consider this as wrong information provided, if you change the express entry profile now which changes your points. This is my thought and it is always better to provide the right information upfront.
Your explanation make sense. But OINP asks for reference letter from each of your employer who you have worked with in last 10 years or from age of 18 yrs whichever gap is small.

I can asks my company's sister company to show that experience but the problem is I have already submitted my 10 month work exp. letter when I first came to Canada.. now if I change anything and if they cross check they will consider this as fraud.

And yes I have 1 yr work experience in Canada
 

tpurohit

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Feb 5, 2016
253
77
Category........
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
12-JAN-2017
Med's Done....
29-DEC-2016
rajkamalmohanram said:
When you send your application package, you can attach a LOE outlining your situation.
In LOE should I just say .. I haven't gotten from my company for this period because I was trainee and was not in contract...?
how big the description can be .. I mean in length ..?
can you help me with sample...?
appreciate it.
 

sultaan07

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Jan 21, 2016
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Hello friends,

Currently, I am living in Canada as Visitor. I had 10 months of experience at SUBWAY as store manager with annual salary more than $25,000. I went to one lawyer and he said he can workout with my experience and can show 12-months full time experience. He said he had done it before. After that, He will create my EE, profile and apply for OINP under CEC.

Is it possible guys? please help me.
 

Nreddy

Star Member
Feb 18, 2016
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Hi All,

can you please suggest on this and can you also let me know if i need to attestate my graduation certificate or not required.

Thank you.
 

Nreddy

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Feb 18, 2016
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Hi Rajkamal,

I am collecting the doccuments to apply for Ontario PNP. I have a birth certificate which was issued on 2010 and though it was written in English
its not a printed version, its manually written some fields like my name and date of birth and place of birth. does it an issue? currently i don't have a printed version actually in my region revenue officers issue the birth certificates by writing manually and sign, stamp on the birth certificate.please let me know if i can submit this document and can you also let me know if i need to attestant my graduation certificate.

Thank you.
 

SRI_BLR2016

Full Member
Feb 14, 2016
26
0
Category........
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-Jan-2016
Nomination.....
Waiting
AOR Received.
Waiting
IELTS Request
CLB 9
Nreddy said:
Hi Rajkamal,

I am collecting the doccuments to apply for Ontario PNP. I have a birth certificate which was issued on 2010 and though it was written in English
its not a printed version, its manually written some fields like my name and date of birth and place of birth. does it an issue? currently i don't have a printed version actually in my region revenue officers issue the birth certificates by writing manually and sign, stamp on the birth certificate.please let me know if i can submit this document and can you also let me know if i need to attestant my graduation certificate.

Thank you.
The name,dob and place of birth would be manually written in old birth certificates anyway. I guess it is issued on a government letter head with the seals and all. If your name is not written n English then you need to attach a notarized translation. You can also have a LOE to explain this and add your school certificate also. You don't have to attest your foreign graduation certificate.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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dhruvmehtani said:
Hey Guys

I have an multiple operating deposit account with SBI. I was successful in receiving stamped bank statements from them for the pat 6 months.

My query is that I have a multiple operating deposit account or a flexi-fixed account where sweep in and sweep out happens as per need and savings balance is kept minimal upto say 25000 and rest is deposited in a FD.

Now bank statement gives an overall balance with all FDs and the sum is shown as MOD balance separately. Will this be an issue with OINP?

Please advise

Thanks
As long as those funds can be withdrawn at will, you are good to go!
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Nreddy said:
Hi,

I am collecting the doccuments to apply for Ontario PNP. I have a birth certificate which was issued on 2010 and though it was written in English
its not a printed version, its manually written some fields like my name and date of birth and place of birth. does it an issue? currently i don't have a printed version actually in my region revenue officers issue the birth certificates by writing manually and sign, stamp on the birth certificate.please let me know if i can submit this document.

Thank you.
No problem. My BC was printed but the values (like my name and DoB) were written with a pen. OINP accepted this, got AOR.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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tpurohit said:
Your explanation make sense. But OINP asks for reference letter from each of your employer who you have worked with in last 10 years or from age of 18 yrs whichever gap is small.

I can asks my company's sister company to show that experience but the problem is I have already submitted my 10 month work exp. letter when I first came to Canada.. now if I change anything and if they cross check they will consider this as fraud.

And yes I have 1 yr work experience in Canada
You just need to submit reference letters for the jobs that you are claiming points for. For all other jobs (that you are not claiming points for), you can just write a LOE and tell them that you are not submitting documents for those jobs because you are not claiming points.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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tpurohit said:
In LOE should I just say .. I haven't gotten from my company for this period because I was trainee and was not in contract...?
how big the description can be .. I mean in length ..?
can you help me with sample...?
appreciate it.
Just say you are not submitting documents for your foreign job because you are not claiming points for it. Its an everyday letter - keep it simple and polite.

Good luck!
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Nreddy said:
Hi All,

can you please suggest on this and can you also let me know if i need to attestate my graduation certificate or not required.

Thank you.
If your degree is not a Canadian one, you can just submit a copy of your degree certificate and a photocopy of the hard copy of your ECA report. No notarization required.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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vidhu88 said:
Hi Raj

Thanks a lot for taking the initiative of starting this wonderful and informative thread!! Cheers :)

Now, I hope that my queries/ concerns are not duplicate but I need your and others input here:

1. Employee Referral Letters -

a) From Current Employer - I have been able to extract a very comprehensive referral letter from my current employer issued by
the HR head with company seal, mentioning my current manager's name, my tenure, my salary details and my current reporting
manager's signatures on it.

However, the catch here is that I was promoted to my current role which falls under the category of NOC-0125 in
Jan'15. Hence, my referral letter from my current employer also talks my previous role and responsibility along with my previous
manager's name (I could only have an approval e-mail from him on the content of the referral letter since he is out of the country). I
have not mentioned about this previous role in my CIC EE profile which falls under NOC -2171 in which I was serving
from Nov'13 till Dec'14.

Query 1. Would it make a difference if I show my experience in my current role which falls under the category of NOC-0125 since
Nov'13 instead without mentioning about my old role from which I was promoted? Or should I update my CIC EE profile with another
line showing my old experience from Nov'13 - Dec'14 with NOC - 2171 and then modify my current experience with NOC-0125 from
Jan'15 till present (as I am still serving in this position).

You only need to provide reference letters for the jobs that you are claiming points for. If you are claiming points for your previous position (in a different NOC) too, then, you can mention it in your EE profile. Otherwise, you can leave it as such and whilst submitting your application package, you can mention in a LOE that you are not claiming points for the other job OR you can get an updated reference letter that does not talk about your previous experience.

Query 2. Would the approval e-mail from my previous manager on the content of the referral letter work in this case? Also, do I need
to include the employee ID's of both of my managers - is this a requirement?

Since your employment letter is on the letterhead, you are fine. Its not necessary that both the managers have to sign them,AFAIK.

Query 3. I still haven't received the increment letter from HR for my 2016's raise though my referral letter has been updated with my
new CTC as it was approved by the management? How do i explain this to OINP while submitting my documents?

You can send this updated reference letter alone. After you get AOR, you can send them updated documents.

b) From my previous employer: My previous company issued me a standard referral letter which only my designation, my
responsibilities, my service tenure. But they did not cover the points of mentioning my reporting manager's name, my salary
description (for this they advised me to use my appointment letter which I have but is not signed by the HR as it was electronically
shared with me).

Query 4. Is it important to have my reporting manager's name on the referral letter?

If you are claiming points for that job, then, it is better to get a letter where someone has signed it (not necessarily the reporting manager).
Query 5. Will the (unsigned) appointment letter work instead in absence of my salary and benefits details on the referral letter as my
appointment letter contains my complete salary plus benefits structure that I was entitled for while serving in that company?

Read 4. If you are not claiming points for this job, you need not submit documents for it..

2. Settlement Funds:

Query 5. Could you kindly enlighten me on how to get a Gift Deed? What's the process, is it something that a notary does or is it a
legal document prepared by a lawyer/ advocate and the needs to be registered some authority?

A lot of details about this is available in the thread "OONP - Acknowledgement Received". You can search and get it from there. Here's the link -->

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t307460.0.html


3. Ties to Ontario:

I have a very good childhood friend living in Toronto whom I frequently exchange e-mails? - This is currently my only tie or bond with
Ontario though I am also aware that I have a better career prospect in Ontario considering by educational and professional background.

Query 6. How strong would my childhood friend's staying in Toronto be considered as a Tie? Should i also include the e-mails that I
have exchanged with him in this regard?

As long as your friend is a legal resident/citizen, you can mention him/her. Please note that ties are NOT mandatory. You can provide his PR card/PP, DL and rental agreement in order to prove his legal resident status. Also, you can get a letter from him/her stating how he will make your transition easy - this will help. Yes, you can include those e-mails too!

Query 7. How can I show better career prospects in Ontario without have a Job offer letter from any of the employers?

You can write a convincing Letter of Intent to reside/Reasons to reside in Ontario. In this, you can outline as to why you want to come to Ontario. You can talk about the employment opportunities (google it, see what opportunities are present for your NOC, register with various job search websites etc,). Its not just the employment opportunities - You can talk about how you are planning to settle and make Ontario your permanent home (you cant talk about higher education opportunities etc,).

Query 8. Can anyone share a format of this letter - a generic one would help!

Again, the format is available in the letter thread mentioned above.


Kindly help me with the above queries as I am nearing my application submission cut-off date!

Regards
Vidhu
 

vidhu88

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Feb 20, 2016
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Thanks a ton Raj!!

I just noticed another issue with my application... :(

From Nov'13 - Dec'14, I was working as a "Methods and procedures analyst" in the same organization. This job profile falls under Skill level "A".

Then in Jan'15, I was promoted to the role of "Methods and procedures manager" in the same organization. This job profile falls under the skill level "0".

Now, do I need to segregate these two profile while creating an express entry profile on CIC or can I show this experience as one since Nov'13 till date?
 

CanadaWeCome

Champion Member
Oct 1, 2015
2,387
129
124
Category........
Visa Office......
Express Entry FSW Outlander
NOC Code......
4031/4032
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Nomination.....
Awaiting
AOR Received.
15-12-2015
IELTS Request
27-06-2015
vidhu88 said:
Thanks a ton Raj!!

I just noticed another issue with my application... :(

From Nov'13 - Dec'14, I was working as a "Methods and procedures analyst" in the same organization. This job profile falls under Skill level "A".

Then in Jan'15, I was promoted to the role of "Methods and procedures manager" in the same organization. This job profile falls under the skill level "0".

Now, do I need to segregate these two profile while creating an express entry profile on CIC or can I show this experience as one since Nov'13 till date?
Does the NOC Code change? I suppose not,...In that case whether you keep it as one or show as separate it won't matter.
 

vidhu88

Star Member
Feb 20, 2016
58
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Thanks for your reply CanadaWeCome!

The NOC codes changes in my case, Methods and procedures analyst falls in NOC code 1122 and "Methods and procedures manager" falls in the category of 0125.

Now, the problem is that if I show them separately in CIC express entry profile, then my CRS drops from 408 to 396. Right now, I have combined this experience and shown it in one category of 0125 with skill level "0" beacuse of which my CRS is 408.

Kindly suggest as I am in a fix!

Regards
Vidhu