Kingston,Jamaica

[shortyp2000]

yea same I go usually every 5-7 weeks and even though I don't have a hotel to pay for when I go it still does get costly .. During the summer I stay away around 2-2.5 months just because of the heat ... Lol and I get tired of the food cause I'm a vegetarian (except fish ) lmao and u can't find anywhere with salads lmao I found a place once in mobay and ordered a Caesar salad and when it came they had a slice of processed cheese melted on top cause they had no Parmesan cheese lmao ..... Last time when I went the sea was rough for a while so fish wasn't easy to find everyday ... My husband refuses to eat or buy fish there unless it's straight from the sea cause they use embombing fluids in the fish they sell at most supermarkets to preserve them ... And wow 2 years that's a while I would literally be pulling my hair out with fusturation lmao .. @ shorty how much longer are you there for ?? I'm planning to go mid September 1-October if my husband doesn't get his passport back by then....

My trip is over on the 7th of Sept.... booooo.... it never seems to be enuff time does it.....

 

[Paula_T]

My trip is over on the 7th of Sept.... booooo.... it never seems to be enuff time does it.....

RIGHT ... Lol I usually fly with westjet and always purchase a plus fare for
The way home because I always extend and when it's plus you don't pay the $150 change fee.. Everytime I come I book for 2 weeks and always end up extending another 5/7/10 days...my husband laughs everytime, he doesn't understand why I don't just book it from the beginning but i just love the feeling of going to
The airport to extend and not have to leave ... I can't go for Just a week I did it once and it was toture .. Plus the hassle I get at customs is just to much to go through just for a
Week ... Whether it's a week , 2 weeks or even a month I still don't wanna leave and still cry, it's gotten a lot better I was kinda dramatic at one point but it's hard .. But atleast now when we leave we leave knowing that we have been approved to sponsor .. When I would leave him before that point it was so much harder and literally tore me apart... It would always take me atleast a week of being home to adjust back to things and get over leaving...
@mixedchick yea same my husband had been in canada 2 previous times each for 6 months for a seasonal work program ... His visa did expire shortly before we applied and he was back in JA caring for his sick mom anyways so he couldn't leave at the time so he left it ... Well once we summited our sponsorship application he applied 2 more times and was denied .. Even though he had already demonstrated he would return when required and wouldn't run away or wasn't a flight risk and he also had the money in his account and property in JA so clearly he was able to show strong ties to the country ... Had the option to apply for a work visa in canada once he is here on a TRV and we file inland had been a option when we summited our application we probably would have waited , applied for the TRV visa for him again and then applied inland ...

 

[MixedChick92]

yea same I go usually every 5-7 weeks and even though I don't have a hotel to pay for when I go it still does get costly .. During the summer I stay away around 2-2.5 months just because of the heat ... Lol and I get tired of the food cause I'm a vegetarian (except fish ) lmao and u can't find anywhere with salads lmao I found a place once in mobay and ordered a Caesar salad and when it came they had a slice of processed cheese melted on top cause they had no Parmesan cheese lmao ..... Last time when I went the sea was rough for a while so fish wasn't easy to find everyday ... My husband refuses to eat or buy fish there unless it's straight from the sea cause they use embombing fluids in the fish they sell at most supermarkets to preserve them ... And wow 2 years that's a while I would literally be pulling my hair out with fusturation lmao .. @ shorty how much longer are you there for ?? I'm planning to go mid September 1-October if my husband doesn't get his passport back by then....

Wow! Lucky girls, must be nice to travel that often.. LOL at the processed cheese, a good try though haha!
Well thanks for the heads up, I'll let hubby know, mind you, we've never bought fish from the supermarket.
Honestly not bad, no hair pulling out haha, cause its not like I haven't seen my hubby in two years, he just comes here and visits. So same ting lolol

@ Shortyp2000 - Three times eh? Well I do hear its tough for Jamaicans to get Canadian TRV's. I know you need to show STRONG ties to the country. I guess it's always different for everyone .. but atleast you know now, that you'll be with him permanently HOPEFULLY shortly!

 

[shortyp2000]

Yes, im hoping soon. I thought for some reason he might have had PPR by summers end but obviously that didnt happen. One of our sons 1st birthday is coming up, so it'd be nice if he was there for that. Or Halloween. Or our bday in Nov (yes hubby and I have same bday) and if not for any of those, hopefully xmas!

 

[Paula_T]

Wow! Lucky girls, must be nice to travel that often.. LOL at the processed cheese, a good try though haha!
Well thanks for the heads up, I'll let hubby know, mind you, we've never bought fish from the supermarket.
Honestly not bad, no hair pulling out haha, cause its not like I haven't seen my hubby in two years, he just comes here and visits. So same ting lolol

@ Shortyp2000 - Three times eh? Well I do hear its tough for Jamaicans to get Canadian TRV's. I know you need to show STRONG ties to the country. I guess it's always different for everyone .. but atleast you know now, that you'll be with him permanently HOPEFULLY shortly

oh ok if he's able to come over here and visit that's even better !! I'd much rather that also then travelling to Jamaica and yea my husband did have strong ties but like I said before we summited our spousal sponsorship because it's almost impossible to get approved for a TRV while waiting for a decision to be made on the spousal sponsorship

 

[Paula_T]

Exactly. I used to come every 4-6 weeks or so. I cant anymore. I was pregnant again, my 5 yr old started school in Canada, my newborn had to have 2 surgeries and then I have my teens to take care of too!
Im still down here in JA now and its hot hot hot. Im sweltering!
But yeah I know what you mean. If I had an estimated time (a proper one, we all know its not going to take 22/23 months), then I could make arrangements a little better rather than not knowing anything and missing out on seeing my hubby for months because I think he miggt get PPR anytime....
It really sucks and hopefully its over soon. I dont think KIN will keep ur hubbys passport too ling. fingers crossed

they should be able to give us more specifics without us having to send in a request for the CAIPS notes ...it's such a joke but we unfortunately we can't do anything just sit and wait ... The fact my ecas was updated in August to show processing time began Feb 20 just does
To show you that they were 6 months behind in updating ... All in the month my ecas changed from application received to in process .. Then shortly after that when I read on here some people had updates with a processing time added and sure enough I checked and here it was ..... @shorty it is definagely a lot more difficult to travel when you have so many young ones .. Luckily my parents come stay at my place when I go away so I don't have to worry about uprooting my children or finding someone to look after them .. You should be getting someone soon ...hopefully your one of the wives that leaves your husband and he gets the PPR a short time later ... Are you going to go back and fly up with him when he gets his passport returned ? I'm still deciding what I'm going to do ...i guess it would be more logical for me to just take the extra time away from work when he comes here rather than going to JA just to come with him ...

 

[Paula_T]

wowww..... that is the EXACT same emails they sent me, (Chris Alexanders office AND Kingston VO) Seems like a lot of copy/paste for them, lol.

@shorty I forgot to ask you does your husbands ECAs say medical results received yet or it's just showing the 2 lines

 

[shortyp2000]

@ shorty I forgot to ask you does your husbands ECAs say medical results received yet or it's just showing the 2 lines

I wont be flying with him, which is sad but its ok
Yes it shows three lines, including the medicals received. Hopefully thats a good sign

 

[Paula_T]

I wont be flying with him, which is sad but its ok
Yes it shows three lines, including the medicals received. Hopefully thats a good sign

yes if your ECAS shows medicals received its a good thing especially considering it was sent in seperate from the rest of your application ..also have you received your CAIPS notes yet ? I sent in for mine over a month ago but haven't gotten anything yet, which I'm hoping I won't need them anyways . My husband has a 8 year old from a
Previous relationship and we just included the form from her mom and had her mom write a letter basically just stating that he has fulfilled all obligations as a father and she has no problem with her daughter immigrating to canada after he is all settled and has a job .. I'm kinda worried even though they have his pSsport this may delay things .. initally we were going to do the application without adding his daughter until we found out that he would give up all
Rights to sponsor her in the future .

 

[MixedChick92]

My husband has a 8 year old from a
Previous relationship and we just included the form from her mom and had her mom write a letter basically just stating that he has fulfilled all obligations as a father and she has no problem with her daughter immigrating to canada after he is all settled and has a job .. I'm kinda worried even though they have his pSsport this may delay things .. initally we were going to do the application without adding his daughter until we found out that he would give up all
Rights to sponsor her in the future .

I didn't think you needed to have the other parent fill out that form, if the child is non-accompanying dependent?
I thought that was only needed from the other parent, if they child were accompanying the applicant at the time they come to Canada. I know you still need to make sure the non- accompanying children are on the application and that children' need to do a medical, send in BC and police if they are over 18.

EDIT: Never mind you said letter. We just filled out the question, where it asks if the child will be accompanying the applicant to Canada. Didn't write a letter though...


I don't think it should delay it, you'll be getting the passport back probably within this month,

 

[shortyp2000]

yes if your ECAS shows medicals received its a good thing especially considering it was sent in seperate from the rest of your application ..also have you received your CAIPS notes yet ? I sent in for mine over a month ago but haven't gotten anything yet, which I'm hoping I won't need them anyways . My husband has a 8 year old from a
Previous relationship and we just included the form from her mom and had her mom write a letter basically just stating that he has fulfilled all obligations as a father and she has no problem with her daughter immigrating to canada after he is all settled and has a job .. I'm kinda worried even though they have his pSsport this may delay things .. initally we were going to do the application without adding his daughter until we found out that he would give up all
Rights to sponsor her in the future .

I emailed them to ensure medicals were received and they told me in April that they were so I never worried about that. I just ordered my notes ) days ago so I dont expect them back for a month. You should contact and ask whats up with yours! But it wont affect your file no since you have PPR

 

[Paula_T]

I didn't think you needed to have the other parent fill out that form, if the child is non-accompanying dependent?
I thought that was only needed from the other parent, if they child were accompanying the applicant at the time they come to Canada. I know you still need to make sure the non- accompanying children are on the application and that children' need to do a medical, send in BC and police if they are over 18.

EDIT: Never mind you said letter. We just filled out the question, where it asks if the child will be accompanying the applicant to Canada. Didn't write a letter though...


I don't think it should delay it, you'll be getting the passport back probably within this month,

i know it's kinda conflicting . I called CiC call centre in Mississauga on two separate occasions and asked two different people because I know they don't always give you the correct answer . I also asked a family friend who is also a immigration lawyer and he advised to me fill out the form from the non accompying parent of the minor (husbands ex ) I believe it's for IMM5604:. She filled out this form as well as photocopied her ID and had them both notorized . Even though his daughter is not coming with him
Now I was advised this form needed to be filled out and placed in the file from now , and failing to have this done could result in them requesting additional information or even have her excluded from being able to be sponsored in the future ... Even though my husband and his baby mother never lived together and only dated for a short period of time according to immigration it would still be considered a child who is born to parents that are seperated . Initially I thought only if they were divorced or had a court order for custody this would form would only apply but apparently not . If you look in the case specific guide for Jamaica it is written u dee children's info if seperated or divorced to include :: proof that you have custody of the child under 18..-proof that you have fufilled all obligations in custody agreement and -proof that children are free to move to Canada..... In my husbands case there is no custody agreement and his daughter does
Live with her mother and it was hell for us to get her to cooperate we even had to pay her to cooperate for the medicals .. Not only did she fill out that form , photocopy her ID and have them all notorized she also wrote a letter that stated that her and my husband never lived together and only dated briefly for a few months at which time she got pregnant .. It also stated that my husband has fufilled all
Obligations as a father and supports his daughter financially on a regular basis , she included that no court order was ever granted because they never had a issue with access or support so this was never needed . She also wrote that even though her daughter wouldn't be immigrating to canada with her father now that she had no objection with her immigrating in the future when he has been here long enough to have full time employment and has been stable for sometime in canada .. This letter was so stamped and signed in front of a JP.. If any custody or access is not clear between your husbands children and your husband then you have a very high chance of having Kingston contact you to request additional information ...... So from the lawyer, CiC as well as experience I have had on previous sponsorship applications I'm
Under the impression even though they will not be coming with your husband at the time that form still needs to be completed at the time his sponsorship application is summited so it is input into
The system for the future . And yes medicals also do need to be done for every child at the same time your husbands is done.. The last year the rules have changed and the child must also have a valid passport to be medically examined for immigration purposes .. While I'm sure some applications may get processed without any problem if this information isn't included I just always feel that it's best to include it then risk waiting for immigration to contact you to request the information as this will be sure to add a additional 2-4 months onto your process anytime Kingston requests something from you because once you send it in then it isn't opened right away it again goes into a processing query to wait to be accessed by a office and then input into the system .. Kingston needs to be very clear when it comes to access and custody of children and what considered smalll and irrevelant to us can sometimes unfortunately be seen as misrepresentation or withholding information in the eyes of CIC.. Or even if I didn't send in that form completed I would have included a letter just stating that I didn't think it was applicable in my situation .. With this being said I am not trying to worry you in any way and like I always say every case is different and processed differently so what may be beneficial or helpful in my case may not be helpful to another's ... But I would definately recommend you contact immigration to ask them about the form to see if you should have summited it , on two cases the call centre told me to summit it .. Good luck and hope your process is speedy

 

[MixedChick92]

i know it's kinda conflicting . I called CiC call centre in Mississauga on two separate occasions and asked two different people because I know they don't always give you the correct answer . I also asked a family friend who is also a immigration lawyer and he advised to me fill out the form from the non accompying parent of the minor (husbands ex ) I believe it's for IMM5604:. She filled out this form as well as photocopied her ID and had them both notorized . Even though his daughter is not coming with him
Now I was advised this form needed to be filled out and placed in the file from now , and failing to have this done could result in them requesting additional information or even have her excluded from being able to be sponsored in the future ... Even though my husband and his baby mother never lived together and only dated for a short period of time according to immigration it would still be considered a child who is born to parents that are seperated . Initially I thought only if they were divorced or had a court order for custody this would form would only apply but apparently not . If you look in the case specific guide for Jamaica it is written u dee children's info if seperated or divorced to include :: proof that you have custody of the child under 18..-proof that you have fufilled all obligations in custody agreement and -proof that children are free to move to Canada..... In my husbands case there is no custody agreement and his daughter does
Live with her mother and it was hell for us to get her to cooperate we even had to pay her to cooperate for the medicals .. Not only did she fill out that form , photocopy her ID and have them all notorized she also wrote a letter that stated that her and my husband never lived together and only dated briefly for a few months at which time she got pregnant .. It also stated that my husband has fufilled all
Obligations as a father and supports his daughter financially on a regular basis , she included that no court order was ever granted because they never had a issue with access or support so this was never needed . She also wrote that even though her daughter wouldn't be immigrating to canada with her father now that she had no objection with her immigrating in the future when he has been here long enough to have full time employment and has been stable for sometime in canada .. This letter was so stamped and signed in front of a JP.. If any custody or access is not clear between your husbands children and your husband then you have a very high chance of having Kingston contact you to request additional information ...... So from the lawyer, CiC as well as experience I have had on previous sponsorship applications I'm
Under the impression even though they will not be coming with your husband at the time that form still needs to be completed at the time his sponsorship application is summited so it is input into
The system for the future . And yes medicals also do need to be done for every child at the same time your husbands is done.. The last year the rules have changed and the child must also have a valid passport to be medically examined for immigration purposes .. While I'm sure some applications may get processed without any problem if this information isn't included I just always feel that it's best to include it then risk waiting for immigration to contact you to request the information as this will be sure to add a additional 2-4 months onto your process anytime Kingston requests something from you because once you send it in then it isn't opened right away it again goes into a processing query to wait to be accessed by a office and then input into the system .. Kingston needs to be very clear when it comes to access and custody of children and what considered smalll and irrevelant to us can sometimes unfortunately be seen as misrepresentation or withholding information in the eyes of CIC.. Or even if I didn't send in that form completed I would have included a letter just stating that I didn't think it was applicable in my situation .. With this being said I am not trying to worry you in any way and like I always say every case is different and processed differently so what may be beneficial or helpful in my case may not be helpful to another's ... But I would definately recommend you contact immigration to ask them about the form to see if you should have summited it , on two cases the call centre told me to summit it .. Good luck and hope your process is speedy

We didn't write a letter because we don't think she needs to sign the form at this time, we already stated that the child is NOT accompanying my husband at the same time and explaining why in the question.

My husband had some legal advise as well, and was told the child's mother didn't need to fill IMM 5604 at this time, as the child is non-accompanying, that form will need to be filled out later for sponsorship if the child is still a minor.
The only way a non-accompanying dependant can inadmissible to Canada later on, is if the non-accompanying dependant was not listed on the application, and if they didn't undergo a medical exam, that's stated right on the guide on the website.

If IMM 5604 form is not included, that has nothing to do with inadmissibility in the future... that just means the child (if under 18) can't go abroad with applicant at the same time, without the other parent's consent... and we aren't bringing the child at this time.


my co-worker finished her husbands immigration process with Kingston last year, her husbands son didn't accompany him to Canada at the same time as her husband and she didn't include IMM 5604.

Her husband however is now filing for his son, and now has had to have his child's mother sign that form and send it in.

I don't think ill be getting contacted from Kingston, but if they do, so it goes, but I think its highly unlikely.

Thanks for the information though. I hope we are processed quick as well.

 

[Paula_T]

We didn't write a letter because we don't think she needs to sign the form at this time, we already stated that the child is NOT accompanying my husband at the same time and explaining why in the question.

My husband had some legal advise as well, and was told the child's mother didn't need to fill IMM 5604 at this time, as the child is non-accompanying, that form will need to be filled out later for sponsorship if the child is still a minor.
The only way a non-accompanying dependant can not be admissible to Canada later on is if the non-accompanying dependant was not listed on the application, and if they didn't undergo a medical exam, that's stated right on the guide on the website.

If IMM 5604 form is not included, that has nothing to do with inadmissibility in the future... that just means the child (if under 18) can't go abroad with applicant at the same time, without the other parent's consent... and we aren't bringing the child at this time.


my co-worker finished her husbands immigration process with Kingston last year, her husbands son didn't accompany him to Canada at the same time as her husband and she didn't include IMM 5604.

Her husband however is now filing for his son, and now has had to have his child's mother sign that form and send it in.

I don't think ill be getting contacted from Kingston, but if they do, so it goes, but I think its highly unlikely.

Thanks for the information though. I hope we are processed quick as well.

we were advised to include it . Again people always get conflicting information when they call the call centre that's why I called two seperate occasions and was told to hand it in so we did anyways , my husband received his PPR approx 6 months after Kingston received the file so even if we didn't need to summit it atleast it didn't negatively effect the decision made on our application . I do have a friend, my husbands brothers wife whom Kingston did send a request to for this form to get completed and filled out because they also didn't include it so I guess it just all depends on the VO assessing your application and it could have even been a possibility they shouldn't have requested this information and it was a mistake or wrong judgement on there part ..And sorry maybe I was unclear your right not having the form can't make you inadmissible, it is refusing to have them medically examined that would make them inadmissible .with that being said if Kingston isn't clear on the custody agreement whether through court or even a verbal aggrement between the person you are sponsoring and there childs parent then it can indeed add time to the processing of your application because this information has to be clear to them at the time of processing and additional steps can be taken for them to obtain the information they need . again every situation is different and this is just what I chose to do in my application and it seemed to have been processed without a issue ..I also did Get legal advice and help all through the application with anything I was unclear of and even sometimes lawyers can give conflicting or misleading information especially if there being paid because the majority of the time the more Cic ends up corresponding bath and forth with a lawyer and to continue requesting additional documents can essential end up costing you more and earning them more .. This I know for a fact my cousin married a woman from the Phillipeans and there going through hell right now and they forked out over $12,000 in legal fees and the lawyer ended up complicating the whole case and even had them hurry and send in the application not properly prepared and not nearly enough supporting documents and now there stuck going through the appeal process which of course is going to end up costing them
More money now for a different lawyer to fix all the mistakes the other lawyer made .. I didn't pay for any of the advice I was given from the immigration lawyer I used as this is a close family friend and they just more less assisted me as a favour.. And at times Cic has even been know to scrutinize applications more if you have used a lawyer because of course when you have a lawyer summiting your application Cic will make sure all the i's are dotted and all the r'a are crossed ... And to be honest I'm happy I got the letter from her when I did because recently she has been impossible to deal with and I can't imagine her ever doing anything again if she thought it would be any help to my husband or I ... And nearly 2 weeks after PPR my Husbands ECAS is still
Just staying we received your application NOV12/14..we began processing your application Feb 20/15 and medical results received ... So yep there very behind on updating things .. It actually wasn't until August the line to show processing time was added so that took 6 months to put into ECAS from the time processing began .. I'm not sure how true it is but I've been told by a couple people once Kingston changes your ECAS to show the day they begun to process your application that you have already successfully passed the medical and security checks , again this is just something I was told and I don't know for a fact ...

 

[MixedChick92]

Good morning family,

Any news