INLAND APPLICATIONS 2013

[Ponga]

OR It is addressed to the applicant because it's only the applicant part of the paperwork that went because they actually already did the sponsor part before the transfer and just have been seriously slacking on getting those AIP letters emailed/mailed as necessary what will all the letters they had to generate about it being forwarded to CPC-M. Maybe it was SUPPOSED to say, congratulations, your sponsor has been approved and accordingly we have transferred your application to CPC-M to finish processing. ... and someone just forgot the congratulations part....What? It could happen!

Ok...you must be close to the Washington State border and are gettin' `high' from the cannabis cloud! It could happen...Ha!

I've always speculated that the sponsor approval is by far the fastest part of the entire process (since it doesn't take much to qualify). The real `work' comes with the rest of the application, so...maybe our sponsor paperwork is still with CPC-V?

 

[Ponga]

No I don't think this the case . Woodyc got AIP from CPC -M , so

Granted, but maybe the approval was completed at CPC-V? They can easily send a message to CPC-M telling them to notify the applicant.

When you think about it, it seems to make sense (yikes!).
Why would they transfer something that they're nearly finished with (in Woodyc's case for example) and run the risk of something happening to that portion of the application?
The VO's at CPC-V must still be there doing something...like finishing up the sponsor approvals!

 

[Tilikun]

Granted, but maybe the approval was completed at CPC-V? They can easily send a message to CPC-M telling them to notify the applicant.

When you think about it, it seems to make sense (yikes!).
Why would they transfer something that they're nearly finished with (in Woodyc's case for example) and run the risk of something happening to that portion of the application?
The VO's at CPC-V must still be there doing something...like finishing up the sponsor approvals!

Lol , that would mean extra work , it was easier for " that officer in Vegreville " to send the AIP email himself to woodyc .Ponga do you still believe the the transfer is randomly ?

 

[Ponga]

Lol , that would mean extra work , it was easier for " that officer in Vegreville " to send the AIP email himself to woodyc .Ponga do you still believe the the transfer is randomly ?

Don't burst my bubble! I'm an overly analytical person...at times.

Maybe, just maybe...it is now standard operating procedure that all information (except for the notice that the applications have been transferred) is to be sent from CPC-M.

And yes...I still believe it's random : (gee...you really thought I was serious in that other thread?!?!).

 

[Linden]

Considering that 80% of the application `package' is geared toward the applicant and the relationship proof, it's not too hard to imagine.

They don't need much to approve a sponsor (at least it's my assessment) and need to spend a lot more time on the applicant and the `proof'...which is where the CPC-M staff can accelerate the process.

Actually from my understanding is that a major portion of the work is in the sponsorship 'package'. Before granting AIP they make sure you relationship is genuine and check your supporting documents. That's why people get called in for interviews before AIP. I believe its summarized on one of the CIC operating manuals. For inland application the applicant 'package' they do a criminal background check, review medicals etc. I don't know why they quote 8 months on the CIC website it seems that portion should go quicker but people have been getting DMs fairly quickly after AIP.


For the outland application the sponsorship 'package' only takes 30 days to review. That's because they don't look at the supporting relationship documents just if the sponsor is qualified (not on welfare, not previously sponsored someone, etc.)

 

[frenchwapiti]

Ok...you must be close to the Washington State border and are gettin' `high' from the cannabis cloud! It could happen...Ha!

I've always speculated that the sponsor approval is by far the fastest part of the entire process (since it doesn't take much to qualify). The real `work' comes with the rest of the application, so...maybe our sponsor paperwork is still with CPC-V?

I agree the sponsor approval should be fast and not very complicated, however what sens does it make to separate the sponsor part from the applicant part?

 

[Canuck*soon]

CIC website says 8 months ( http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/perm-fc.asp ), but if you look at the spreadsheet ( https://docs.google.com/a/the-family-centre.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlF5vPwhP68bdENmTzlDSmpZTy1TRWdwamtLeURmZXc#gid=0 ) quite a few people who sent in their medicals at the same time as their application got their AIP and DM together.

Thank you so very much for the information AchankengCrawford

 

[Ponga]

Actually from my understanding is that a major portion of the work is in the sponsorship 'package'. Before granting AIP they make sure you relationship is genuine and check your supporting documents. That's why people get called in for interviews before AIP. I believe its summarized on one of the CIC operating manuals. For inland application the applicant 'package' they do a criminal background check, review medicals etc. I don't know why they quote 8 months on the CIC website it seems that portion should go quicker and people have been getting DMs fairly quickly after AIP.


For the outland application the sponsorship 'package' only takes 30 days to review. That's because they don't look at the supporting relationship documents just if the sponsor is qualified (not on welfare, not previously sponsored someone, etc.)

I respectfully disagree. I now fully agree. SA for Outanders and AIP are not identical approvals.

The reason why it takes so much longer for AIP for an Inland applicant is because CIC knows that we are with our loved one(s) and therefore there's no `rush' to reunite the family.

The sponsor qualifications/eligibility should be the same, whether Inland or Outland. Otherwise, all fraudulent applicants would apply Outland.

 

[frenchwapiti]

Actually from my understanding is that a major portion of the work is in the sponsorship 'package'. Before granting AIP they make sure you relationship is genuine and check your supporting documents. That's why people get called in for interviews before AIP. I believe its summarized on one of the CIC operating manuals. For inland application the applicant 'package' they do a criminal background check, review medicals etc. I don't know why they quote 8 months on the CIC website it seems that portion should go quicker but people have been getting DMs fairly quickly after AIP.


For the outland application the sponsorship 'package' only takes 30 days to review. That's because they don't look at the supporting relationship documents just if the sponsor is qualified (not on welfare, not previously sponsored someone, etc.)

i don'think that it takes 8 month to check the sponsorship package, i rather believe that when they get the package, they scn it and check with the help of the code barres that the correct and complete formulars have been filled in, without verifiyng the content, just check signature everywhere where needed and all the formulars required submitted . then they send AOR and put the file aside, because they have still so many "old" applicatins on their desk they have to look through carefully. Once they start the process of checking in detail, what has been written, answered to the questions etc... they send AIP and from there depending on each application, some are very lean and easy, et hop they get DM right away and others might be more complicated with more details to check and it will tae a little longer. But I don'think they spend like 8 month on each application.
does this make sens? what do you think?

 

[Carlaganda23]

I respectfully disagree.

The reason why it takes so much longer for AIP for an Inland applicant is because CIC knows that we are with our loved one(s) and therefore there's no `rush' to reunite the family.

The sponsor qualifications/eligibility should be the same, whether Inland or Outland. Otherwise, all fraudulent applicants would apply Outland.

Good point Ponga,

It's all about family reunification that's why they don't prioritize inland applicants because they are here in Canada already. At some point, I have to suggest that they should issue the AIP faster though, so We/I can work here in Canada to help with the finances.

 

[Linden]

i don'think that it takes 8 month to check the sponsorship package, i rather believe that when they get the package, they scn it and check with the help of the code barres that the correct and complete formulars have been filled in, without verifiyng the content, just check signature everywhere where needed and all the formulars required submitted . then they send AOR and put the file aside, because they have still so many "old" applicatins on their desk they have to look through carefully. Once they start the process of checking in detail, what has been written, answered to the questions etc... they send AIP and from there depending on each application, some are very lean and easy, et hop they get DM right away and others might be more complicated with more details to check and it will tae a little longer. But I don'think they spend like 8 month on each application.
does this make sens? what do you think?

All I stated was the time CIC is posting on their website.

 

[Linden]

I respectfully disagree.

The reason why it takes so much longer for AIP for an Inland applicant is because CIC knows that we are with our loved one(s) and therefore there's no `rush' to reunite the family.

The sponsor qualifications/eligibility should be the same, whether Inland or Outland. Otherwise, all fraudulent applicants would apply Outland.

The total qualifications/eligibility for the entire application is the same inland or outland. What I'm saying is they split the work differently for stages 1 & 2. Look at the CIC website for the processing times of inland vs outland. The headings for stage 1 & 2 give you a clue right there.

 

[Ponga]

The total qualifications/eligibility for the entire application is the same inland or outland. What I'm saying is they split the work differently for stages 1 & 2. Look at the CIC website for their processing times of inland vs outland. The headings for stage 1 & 2 give you a clue right there.

I do agree that the flowchart on page 44 of ip08 is a little confusing. It does seem to show Sponsorship approval not involving anything concerning the relationship, BUT it does show the relationship verification before actual AIP, as part of the applicant's review so...now only 1/2 of me respectfully disagrees with your previous post.

 

[Linden]

I do agree that the flowchart on page 44 of ip08 is a little confusing. It does seem to show Sponsorship approval not involving anything concerning the relationship, BUT it does show the relationship verification before actual AIP, as part of the applicant's review so...now only 1/2 of me respectfully disagrees with your previous post.

I guess what I was getting is that in step 1 they do both sponsor and relationship checking for the inland apps.

 

[pritha]

Not time to worry yet. The website says they're working on applications from June 25th (I believe). Some people have received a bit earlier, but they haven't passed your date yet.

We just received AIP on Monday and our application was received March 20th, 2013. If they get past your date, you can always put a call in or do the Caips Notes.

Thanks for the explanation AckTivity. Another question, i have received a letter from CIC today stating that my application has been moved from Vegreville to Missisauga (now is my Designated Processing Centre). What is that mean? Does my husband Sponsorship get an approval / Do we pass the stage 1 ?


thanks,
Pritha