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How does CIC tell if a relationship is real or fake

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I'm pretty surprised they flagged a case because of 7 years age difference. And yet they don't automatically flag arranged marriages.
 

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Avadava said:
Edit: I forgot to mention, that we have no children, but not by choice. It's because of medical reasons. I was actually wondering if this will raise a red flag with the VO. Married for almost 5 years, but no children. What do you think?
I doubt it. I have not heard of this being any real red flag.
 

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steerpike said:
I'm pretty surprised they flagged a case because of 7 years age difference. And yet they don't automatically flag arranged marriages.
That is because arranged marriages are considered "normal" in many parts of the world. CIC is looking for suspicious marriages... ones out of the norm for the country the person is from.
 

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keesio said:
That is because arranged marriages are considered "normal" in many parts of the world. CIC is looking for suspicious marriages... ones out of the norm for the country the person is from.
7 years age difference is pretty normal too.
 

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steerpike said:
7 years age difference is pretty normal too.
It depends on which part of the world we are talking about and if the male of the female partner is the older one.
 

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steerpike said:
7 years age difference is pretty normal too.
Big age gaps are considered suspicious. Though I agree that 7 is pretty trivial. Betina is also correct that CIC looks at cases where the woman is older with more suspicion. But still... 7 years is nothing no matter who is older.
 

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My husband is 9 years older than me and I never felt like it was an issue. And I got my PPR today, so I don't think it will come up from now on either :D
 

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keesio said:
Big age gaps are considered suspicious. Though I agree that 7 is pretty trivial. Betina is also correct that CIC looks at cases where the woman is older with more suspicion. But still... 7 years is nothing no matter who is older.
This is what concerns my wife and I as my wife is older than I am by 7 years. However, we've been together for 8 years (married 5). How much scrutiny would an application like ours go through?
 

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JRPW said:
This is what concerns my wife and I as my wife is older than I am by 7 years. However, we've been together for 8 years (married 5). How much scrutiny would an application like ours go through?
I am 15 years older than my hubby. So when we applied, we wanted to make sure that our age difference won't raise any red flag.
But we lived together for 7 years before we got married. And we had pictures to show us spending time with our friends (his and mine) and my family.
It all went well. :)
 

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keesio said:
Big age gaps are considered suspicious. Though I agree that 7 is pretty trivial. Betina is also correct that CIC looks at cases where the woman is older with more suspicion. But still... 7 years is nothing no matter who is older.
No, you misunderstand me. 7 years is literally normal (or close to it). It is normal for the man to be older than a woman. Marriages of same-age couples should draw equal suspicion as marriages between couples that are 7 years apart. Both are slightly outside the absolute norm (3 years difference). So CIC is flagging a practice which is normal.

I think they would be better off scrutinizing arranged marriages because there is a huge opportunity for fraud and it is very difficult to determine if the marriage is genuine or not without extra scrutiny.
 

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Avadava said:
I forgot to mention, that we have no children, but not by choice. It's because of medical reasons. I was actually wondering if this will raise a red flag with the VO. Married for almost 5 years, but no children. What do you think?
It will not matter. You have a long history together, and in Western countries it is normal enough for a couple to not have children. The visa officer probably won't even think about it. If there is an interview, and the visa officer asks about children, you just have to be ready to discuss your situation. The bad thing is if one partner wants children very much and the other does not. If both agree, whether it is to have kids, not have kids, or try and see what happens, then all those are fine. This is a bigger issue in countries where the visa officers believe everyone will want to have children.
 

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Waiting my wife said:
When we were in her small town we took wedding pictures with her and her family. Grafter we took the pic I email them to Singapore.

So my question is will they get the new pic of us, an or will this hurt us god pr because how everything just worked out for us. I'm just scared that they may think we are a fack marriage. But we love each other do much an as u all no this process is long an hurts.
In the area she lives in in Thailand, is it normal to get wedding pictures done at some time other than at the actual wedding ceremony? If it is, and she is questioned about this at the interview, she can just explain that this is a normal custom where she is from.
I ask because when I lived in Taipei, a coworker got married (both from Taiwan, so no immigration problems) and they also had their wedding photos done at a different time than the wedding - in their case, several months before the ceremony. It was because they wanted professional photos like you would see in a magazine, and didn't care about photos of the actual ceremony.
 

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canadianwoman said:
I ask because when I lived in Taipei, a coworker got married (both from Taiwan, so no immigration problems) and they also had their wedding photos done at a different time than the wedding - in their case, several months before the ceremony. It was because they wanted professional photos like you would see in a magazine, and didn't care about photos of the actual ceremony.
Yeah this is normal in Asia. But it is always before the actual wedding. This is so all the photos are ready when the real wedding takes place.
 
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She lived on a island at that point of time that we got married. She could only get 4 day of work an her family could not get no time of of work. An to get married legally it took one week to get our marriage certificate. Pluse her family is very traditional did not want to have a ceremony without my family there. So we did if a bit backwards. We got married then had to go back to island an she had to get back to work. So we talked to her family an mine and decided to have a small ceremony and her small town with out my family. Then when my family can come to Thailand we would have a real ceremony with the whole family. An at that time we could not get Fessional pictures done because she had to get back to work. So when I came back my wife really wanted pics done an as I so we did it for us.

But yes they take the pics first. But now when my family can make it there the pics are done an we will have very Thai traditional ceremony with my family an hers.