H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

[ashkhullar]

when you reapply for another 10 year super visa make sure you explain to officer that PGP program is practically unavailable, and only way for you to see your parents in Canada is through this program (super visa). Also tell officer not to penalize your mother for applying for HC as regulation does give parents right to apply for PR status. Also, explain to officer that you applied for HC because you had humanitarian grounds and that IRCC shouldn’t penalize your family just because you applied under this program. Demand your right to be able to see your biological parents in Canada and enjoy right to family that All Canadians have.

Thanks Kate ,i will make sure about all these points , as she has no legal status in Canada and when we will apply for super visa ,can overstay without legal status be the adverse effect on her application for Super Visa. if anyone can reply

 

[ibrahim0175]

Thanks Kate ,i will make sure about all these points , as she has no legal status in Canada and when we will apply for super visa ,can overstay without legal status be the adverse effect on her application for Super Visa. if anyone can reply

It could,right an explanation letter with the application and just to you know you can only get supervisa from outside Canada,if you are applying from inside Canada,it has to be a TRV

 

[Daanyare]

application submitted feb 2023
got AOR on march 2023

Nov 2024 request of valid passport
submitted request doc on December 2024

AIP received on jan 06 2025

waiting Medical and the second stage process

i hope 2025 will be good year for all of us who have not travel or seen there family for more then 7 to 10 years its painful but lets keep prying .

 

[Victorknow]

application submitted feb 2023
got AOR on march 2023

Nov 2024 request of valid passport
submitted request doc on December 2024

AIP received on jan 06 2025

waiting Medical and the second stage process

i hope 2025 will be good year for all of us who have not travel or seen there family for more then 7 to 10 years its painful but lets keep prying .

Congratulations

 

[FNU]

application submitted feb 2023
got AOR on march 2023

Nov 2024 request of valid passport
submitted request doc on December 2024

AIP received on jan 06 2025

waiting Medical and the second stage process

i hope 2025 will be good year for all of us who have not travel or seen there family for more then 7 to 10 years its painful but lets keep prying .

Congratulations and finally they started to work on applications back.

 

[tsam]

application submitted feb 2023
got AOR on march 2023

Nov 2024 request of valid passport
submitted request doc on December 2024

AIP received on jan 06 2025

waiting Medical and the second stage process

i hope 2025 will be good year for all of us who have not travel or seen there family for more then 7 to 10 years its painful but lets keep prying .

Congratulations @Daanyare

 

[Mahisharm]

application submitted feb 2023
got AOR on march 2023

Nov 2024 request of valid passport
submitted request doc on December 2024

AIP received on jan 06 2025

waiting Medical and the second stage process

i hope 2025 will be good year for all of us who have not travel or seen there family for more then 7 to 10 years its painful but lets keep prying .

Congratulations

 

[Aujla1313]

Congratulations!!

 

[Kate_20]

application submitted feb 2023
got AOR on march 2023

Nov 2024 request of valid passport
submitted request doc on December 2024

AIP received on jan 06 2025

waiting Medical and the second stage process

i hope 2025 will be good year for all of us who have not travel or seen there family for more then 7 to 10 years its painful but lets keep prying .

. Congrats!! So happy when I hear AIPs may all who is trying this program get approval!!

 

[Food1]

Any idea regarding finalizing case from federal court and ircc H&C decision makers which one will come first ?
Both cases are H&C requests
But the thing is new H&C claim been in process and submitted even before filing for Leave and judicial review at federal court, so which one will come first as a decision?
Like this ;-
1- New H&C claim submitted and confirmed in proses as showing on eCAS IP.
2- then shortly after few months filled out for JR for previous H&C declined.
Is FIFO system applying for this case ?

 

[ibrahim0175]

It could,right an explanation letter with the application and just to you know you can only get supervisa from outside Canada,if you are applying from inside Canada,it has to be a TRV

application submitted feb 2023
got AOR on march 2023

Nov 2024 request of valid passport
submitted request doc on December 2024

AIP received on jan 06 2025

waiting Medical and the second stage process

i hope 2025 will be good year for all of us who have not travel or seen there family for more then 7 to 10 years its painful but lets keep prying .

congratulations,could you share the reason/base of your H and C application?

 

[canuck78]

Under the 2025-2027 Immigration Levels Plan IRCC plans on admitting 21,200 people through the H&C and Public Policy category. As of September 2024 there were 5,432 such applications in the Landing Inventory, 59,782 in the Processing Inventory, and 3,316 in the Prospective Inventory. Keep in mind the Immigration Levels Plan measures people, while the inventory consists of applications, many of which were submitted by families. Unless something changes that's basically a 9-year processing time for new applications. The 2025-2027 Immigration Levels Plan also forecasts IRCC admitting 4,000 people through the Federal Business category, which includes the Self-Employed Class and the Start-Up Visa PRogram. As of September 2024 there were 1,983 such applications in the Landing Inventory, 20,830 in the Processing Inventory, and 23,827 in the Prospective Inventory. That's an 11+ year processing time for new applications.
https://meurrensonimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/September-Inventor.pdf

The quota is 10k for all forms of H&C in 2025 and significantly lower for next 2 years. Processing times will get longer and criteria for approval will have to tighten versus the relatively lax approval criteria in previous years. The whole general H&C category needs to be reformed which will likely mean stricter criteria to even apply. The inability to file multiple H&Cs may also be on the list of reforms.

 

[canuck78]

Thank you @Kate_20. Yes, it is very disheartening indeed.

What I am wondering is..when ATIP suggests that eligibility and security have not stsrted, does it really mean IRCC has done *nothing at all* on these? I find it very hard to believe that given it has been 22 months.

In other words, do ATIP notes ever show Eligibility "In progress"? Perhaps it only shows "Not started" until a decision is made even though it might actually be in progress?

There are 50k+ application while the volume of applications that the department can process is just a fraction of that. Your application is likely sitting in a queue awaiting processing. There is not much you can do but wait.

 

[canuck78]

Hi all. My mother's H&C application has been in process for almost 22 months now. No AIP yet and we're past the normal processing time of 21 months. I applied for GCMS notes in December which said Eligibility and Security "not started" but information sharing and criminality passed. No other notes on application in the "Notes" section regarding the application. . Is this normal? I was expecting to at least see some activity in the notes section showing progress.

Processing times are just averages and estimates not guaranteed. Given the volume of applications processing will likely get longer.

 

[canuck78]

I would recommend straight JR, reconsiderations are very very difficult to win. If you had a strong case and HC factors you should go for JR. My parents’ first HC was refused after 7 months, I applied for reconsideration, they refused to open the case to review. I applied for 2nd HC and waiting already 20 months. This was a big mistake, I should have done JR.

Fact that your mom lost status and consultant said you cannot file for reconsideration is wrong. You can still apply but approval is very slim with reconsiderations.

you can apply for second HC after receiving refusal reasons and see if you can strengthen the case but you will need to wait for at least 2. yrs to hear back. IRCC is very slow these days. And I think officers are told not to give PR to parents though HC even if they have strong case.

Also make sure to immediately send email
and request refusal reasons from
officer, do not lose time.

was your mom on 10 yr super visa? did you try inland extensions? Restoration of status?

I understand lots of people on this forum and legal experts argue that approval of super visa after HC is slim but regulation does not specifically say parents on super visa cannot apply for lottery or HC. Lets say if parents are on super visa they can apply for pr through lottery right? They have right .. so you can argue same about HC since both lottery and HC are requesting same status.. if you decide to file super visa you should specifically explain to officer that your mom didn’t violate immigration law by requesting PR status through HC since parents CAN apply for PR while on super visas… PR is a PR you apply through lottery or HC. also lottery is not available past 5 years and it’s never a guarantee so that program is a total failure…simply to say IRCC shouldn’t punish parents of Canadian citizens just because they are applying for HC.. HC stands for Humanitarian so if someone applies for this program clearly they have issues or at leasts some factors so they shouldn’t punish or ban parents for super visas just because they applied for HC.

H&C and PGP are very different and submitting an EOI is not the same as applying for H&C. Parent sponsorship was never guaranteed. If anything Canada is relatively generous compared to many other countries when it comes to parent sponsorship. Canada evaluates any visitor who has applied for any other immigration program but especially ones that would give them permanent status in Canada. A supervisa is a visitor permit so if there is an indication that a parent is attempting to move to Canada permanently then there will be concerns about whether they are a genuine visitor.