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February 2014 Outland Applications?

kneekick

Star Member
Feb 5, 2014
56
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02/17/2014
Doc's Request.
07/09/2014 (marriage cert./rprf)
AOR Received.
03/26/2014
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
02/04/2014
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
waived
LANDED..........
10/28/2014
Steler, One more thing to note: I just realized on the spreadsheet my medicals say April 2. They were actually done Feb. 4 :)
 

steler

Star Member
Dec 20, 2013
164
5
Category........
Visa Office......
Paris
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 5th 2014
AOR Received.
Mar 7th (First); Mar 25th (Second) 2014
File Transfer...
Mar 7th 2014
LANDED..........
July 9th, 2014
kneekick said:
Steler, One more thing to note: I just realized on the spreadsheet my medicals say April 2. They were actually done Feb. 4 :)
This is funny! Depending how you consider, it could be: month/day/year or day/month/year
This is why you had April 2 :p :p
 

BeShoo

Champion Member
Jan 16, 2010
1,212
36
Gatineau
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-01-2014
AOR Received.
28-02-2014
File Transfer...
03-03-2014
Med's Request
19-06-2014
Med's Done....
07-08-2014
Interview........
None
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2015
LANDED..........
13-04-2015
Zarilenth said:
Hey guys! Just curious - did anyone in this thread send in their applications without doing the medical upfront? If so, when you got your SA, was there a note on there telling you to do the medical ASAP?
I'm catching up, because I've been largely away from my computer for a week. We sent in medicals that were done almost 4 years ago, so they are obviously expired. They didn't mention this fact at all in the SA letter. I'm sure they will ask for a new one when it gets closer to COPR.
 

greenlytatum

Full Member
Jan 13, 2014
37
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Pretoria
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26 February 2014
AOR Received.
21 March 2014
File Transfer...
3 July 2014
Med's Done....
15 October 2013
Passport Req..
28 July 2014
VISA ISSUED...
15 August 2014
LANDED..........
30 August 2014
hello guys
I'm always busy (school) so i'm never on my computer. Anyway,this process is just too LONG and ABYSMAL! I still haven't received S.A and e-cas isn't being updated..well in my case atleast. I swear i'm on the verge of breaking down right now because i miss my mom,and i wanna see my 3year old brother,who i've never seen before by the way. I'm all alone in south africa,my granny passed away last year and they won't give me a visitors visa to visit my mom! I have no ties to my home country at all... ;-(
 

steler

Star Member
Dec 20, 2013
164
5
Category........
Visa Office......
Paris
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 5th 2014
AOR Received.
Mar 7th (First); Mar 25th (Second) 2014
File Transfer...
Mar 7th 2014
LANDED..........
July 9th, 2014
greenlytatum said:
hello guys
I'm always busy (school) so i'm never on my computer. Anyway,this process is just too LONG and ABYSMAL! I still haven't received S.A and e-cas isn't being updated..well in my case atleast. I swear i'm on the verge of breaking down right now because i miss my mom,and i wanna see my 3year old brother,who i've never seen before by the way. I'm all alone in south africa,my granny passed away last year and they won't give me a visitors visa to visit my mom! I have no ties to my home country at all... ;-(
I'm so sorry to read that. I wish you the best of the lucks with your process
 

Canadian_belle1

Hero Member
Nov 30, 2013
219
0
124
North Bay, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Rome
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 4, 2014
Doc's Request.
March 4, 2014 - Rescinded on March 7, 2014
AOR Received.
March 10, 2014
File Transfer...
March 10, 2014
Med's Done....
Nov 27, 2013
Interview........
Aug 11, 2014
Passport Req..
Aug 11, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
Aug 11, 2014
LANDED..........
Aug 18, 2014
greenlytatum said:
hello guys
I'm always busy (school) so i'm never on my computer. Anyway,this process is just too LONG and ABYSMAL! I still haven't received S.A and e-cas isn't being updated..well in my case atleast. I swear i'm on the verge of breaking down right now because i miss my mom,and i wanna see my 3year old brother,who i've never seen before by the way. I'm all alone in south africa,my granny passed away last year and they won't give me a visitors visa to visit my mom! I have no ties to my home country at all... ;-(
Hey GT hang in there! It will all be worth it in the end! But it takes time and patience. Can your mom and brother go visit you?
 

Seronic

Star Member
Feb 5, 2013
155
1
ottawa
Category........
Visa Office......
moscow
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-02-2014
AOR Received.
21-03-2014. SA - 26-03-2014
File Transfer...
26-03-2014
Med's Done....
19-01-2014
Interview........
WAIVED
Passport Req..
15-07-2014
VISA ISSUED...
01-08-2014
LANDED..........
15-08-2014
greenlytatum said:
hello guys
I'm always busy (school) so i'm never on my computer. Anyway,this process is just too LONG and ABYSMAL! I still haven't received S.A and e-cas isn't being updated..well in my case atleast. I swear i'm on the verge of breaking down right now because i miss my mom,and i wanna see my 3year old brother,who i've never seen before by the way. I'm all alone in south africa,my granny passed away last year and they won't give me a visitors visa to visit my mom! I have no ties to my home country at all... ;-(
Call them, theres a chance you got SA but letter got lost (I'm pretty sure my letter is lost :<).
 

kokonatsu

Full Member
Mar 8, 2014
41
0
Category........
Visa Office......
NAIROBI
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-02-2014
AOR Received.
19-03-2014
File Transfer...
24-03-2014
Med's Done....
15-02-2014
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
26th-08-2014
Hey guys!
i have been offline for like weeks,i didn't have power for like 1 week.Of Africa!!!.anyway im happy for u guys who have got your SA and AOR.thanks Steler for doing all the great work for updating the spreadsheet.
now the silence is killing me now.i don't how long it will take me to wait to hear from my VO
take care
 

greenlytatum

Full Member
Jan 13, 2014
37
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Pretoria
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26 February 2014
AOR Received.
21 March 2014
File Transfer...
3 July 2014
Med's Done....
15 October 2013
Passport Req..
28 July 2014
VISA ISSUED...
15 August 2014
LANDED..........
30 August 2014
thank you so much guys. You are all supportive and everytime i read your posts,i feel alot better. Thank you! I wish the best for all of you too.
 

BeShoo

Champion Member
Jan 16, 2010
1,212
36
Gatineau
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-01-2014
AOR Received.
28-02-2014
File Transfer...
03-03-2014
Med's Request
19-06-2014
Med's Done....
07-08-2014
Interview........
None
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2015
LANDED..........
13-04-2015
kokonatsu said:
i have been offline for like weeks,i didn't have power for like 1 week.Of Africa!!!.anyway im happy for u guys who have got your SA and AOR.thanks Steler for doing all the great work for updating the spreadsheet.
now the silence is killing me now.i don't how long it will take me to wait to hear from my VO
take care
Well, the web page says 21 months for Nairobi, so if you hear anything from them before 12 to 21 months, it is probably because there is a problem with your application. The next thing you hear will probably be a request for an interview or a passport request because you've been approved.
 

Seronic

Star Member
Feb 5, 2013
155
1
ottawa
Category........
Visa Office......
moscow
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-02-2014
AOR Received.
21-03-2014. SA - 26-03-2014
File Transfer...
26-03-2014
Med's Done....
19-01-2014
Interview........
WAIVED
Passport Req..
15-07-2014
VISA ISSUED...
01-08-2014
LANDED..........
15-08-2014
BeShoo said:
Well, the web page says 21 months for Nairobi, so if you hear anything from them before 12 to 21 months, it is probably because there is a problem with your application. The next thing you hear will probably be a request for an interview or a passport request because you've been approved.
The wait times are weird. The Moscow office is 18 months, yet people seem to get approved and landed within 6-9 months often (some even sooner). I don't understand ;o
 

BeShoo

Champion Member
Jan 16, 2010
1,212
36
Gatineau
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-01-2014
AOR Received.
28-02-2014
File Transfer...
03-03-2014
Med's Request
19-06-2014
Med's Done....
07-08-2014
Interview........
None
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2015
LANDED..........
13-04-2015
Seronic said:
The wait times are weird. The Moscow office is 18 months, yet people seem to get approved and landed within 6-9 months often (some even sooner). I don't understand ;o
There is a big spread in processing times. It depends on how complicated your background check turns out to be, whether they need to do an interview, etc. Things like investigating to see if you are really divorced from a previous partner and investigating the 8 countries that you've lived in, etc., can take a long time. Straightforward applications can often be extremely fast, while the difficult cases can go over the wait time they list.

They used to list 3 numbers. I think it was 25% of applications, 50% and 75%, or something like that. The people whose applications were not in the first 25% used to phone constantly to see why their applications weren't done yet. Really, all it did was create false expectations.

Probabilities are complicated things that people don't understand well. If you tell someone that there's a 20% chance of rain tomorrow, many of them will conclude that it's going to rain tomorrow, when in actual fact, there is very little chance of it raining.

So, taking Moscow as an example, when they say 18 months, probably 75% of applications are spread out between 6 months and 18 months, with the average being somewhere in the middle. The other 25% of applications are completed in less than 6 months or more than 18 months.

By giving a figure of 18 months, they are trying to tell you not to keep pestering them because it's normally not productive to do that. If it comes to 18 months and you still haven't heard anything, there is something wrong and at that point you have reason to pester them. This leaves them free to work on your file without constantly being interrupted by questions from you. It's annoying to those of us who are waiting, but it makes for the most efficient process.
 

KTCYYZ

Star Member
Oct 16, 2013
112
4
Category........
Visa Office......
Beijing
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-02-2014
AOR Received.
01-03-2014
Med's Done....
30-07-2013
BeShoo said:
There is a big spread in processing times. It depends on how complicated your background check turns out to be, whether they need to do an interview, etc. Things like investigating to see if you are really divorced from a previous partner and investigating the 8 countries that you've lived in, etc., can take a long time. Straightforward applications can often be extremely fast, while the difficult cases can go over the wait time they list.

They used to list 3 numbers. I think it was 25% of applications, 50% and 75%, or something like that. The people whose applications were not in the first 25% used to phone constantly to see why their applications weren't done yet. Really, all it did was create false expectations.

Probabilities are complicated things that people don't understand well. If you tell someone that there's a 20% chance of rain tomorrow, many of them will conclude that it's going to rain tomorrow, when in actual fact, there is very little chance of it raining.

So, taking Moscow as an example, when they say 18 months, probably 75% of applications are spread out between 6 months and 18 months, with the average being somewhere in the middle. The other 25% of applications are completed in less than 6 months or more than 18 months.

By giving a figure of 18 months, they are trying to tell you not to keep pestering them because it's normally not productive to do that. If it comes to 18 months and you still haven't heard anything, there is something wrong and at that point you have reason to pester them. This leaves them free to work on your file without constantly being interrupted by questions from you. It's annoying to those of us who are waiting, but it makes for the most efficient process.
Great answer.
The updated file was just updated in february but I cannot understand it ( http://data.gc.ca/data/en/dataset/427337d0-7c36-4fed-8428-c6a63f8c19b3 )
Like you stated above the percentages in the file do not add up.
Would you kindly explain why the percentages do not add up to 100% and whether the numbers below represent months for process. Thx.
 

BeShoo

Champion Member
Jan 16, 2010
1,212
36
Gatineau
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-01-2014
AOR Received.
28-02-2014
File Transfer...
03-03-2014
Med's Request
19-06-2014
Med's Done....
07-08-2014
Interview........
None
VISA ISSUED...
02-04-2015
LANDED..........
13-04-2015
KTCYYZ said:
Great answer.
The updated file was just updated in february but I cannot understand it ( http://data.gc.ca/data/en/dataset/427337d0-7c36-4fed-8428-c6a63f8c19b3 )
Like you stated above the percentages in the file do not add up.
Would you kindly explain why the percentages do not add up to 100% and whether the numbers below represent months for process. Thx.
The numbers do represent months for processing. Looking at the overall numbers for spouses and partners during the last 12 months in the first tab, 20% of cases are completed in less than 6 months, 30% in less than 7 months, 50% in less than 10 months (this is the median, close to the average), 70% in less than 15 months, and 80% in less than 18 months. These numbers are cumulative, so there is nothing to add up. The first 20% of people are included in the first 30%, etc. The last 20% are completed in more than 18 months.
 

Seronic

Star Member
Feb 5, 2013
155
1
ottawa
Category........
Visa Office......
moscow
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-02-2014
AOR Received.
21-03-2014. SA - 26-03-2014
File Transfer...
26-03-2014
Med's Done....
19-01-2014
Interview........
WAIVED
Passport Req..
15-07-2014
VISA ISSUED...
01-08-2014
LANDED..........
15-08-2014
That helps to understand. I kinda assumed all that, it's just so complicated. Luckily for me, I have no criminal record, me and wifey have only been married once (not in 8 different countries) :D. Should be straight forward. ^^