FAMILY REUNIFICATION - BIG CHANGES

[Bcboundboy]

Clearly, you do not.

It's mind boggling how you continue to support their poor choice of words in their promise.

It's very easy, because unlike you, I'm not having to add any extra words, or cut any out of it.

 

[SaskinSeoul]

HI everyone,

I'm applying for spouse sponsorhip living outside Canada, then, our application already done and it will be submit to CIC this month of December,

Should I submit it? Or should I wait for the new release application kit on December 15,2016.

Am I will be affected?

No one knows until the new forms are released.

I don't see how they can change the forms they are pretty straight forward now. Also it seems like there is a quota for spouses so sending it earlier is probably better. Once the quota is met what will happen?

 

[buonqua]

No one knows until the new forms are released.

I don't see how they can change the forms they are pretty straight forward now. Also it seems like there is a quota for spouses so sending it earlier is probably better. Once the quota is met what will happen?

Must be why my application is taking long despite being recommended pass in July. According to McCallum the quota this year for spouses is 60,000 with a backlog of 80,000 applicants. Next year's quota is 64,000. So maybe a lot will be approved in the new year.

 

[CdnWifeLivingInThailand]

Must be why my application is taking long despite being recommended pass in July. According to McCallum the quota this year for spouses is 60,000 with a backlog of 80,000 applicants. Next year's quota is 64,000. So maybe a lot will be approved in the new year.

I was wondering the same thing with the quota... Are they going to stick to their quota and not go over 64,000, or stick to the 80% of files processed in less than 12 months? Hopefully they are willing to go over their quota a little if necessary to meet their 12 month processing goal, and not arbitrarily slow down processing once the quota is met (wasting precious resources)...

 

[profiler]

I was wondering the same thing with the quota... Are they going to stick to their quota and not go over 64,000, or stick to the 80% of files processed in less than 12 months? Hopefully they are willing to go over their quota a little if necessary to meet their 12 month processing goal, and not arbitrarily slow down processing once the quota is met (wasting precious resources)...

The 80% number is because 20% of cases are more complex and require more attention. So that's not a hard limit. That's a reality introduced so they don't over-promise.

That said, you'll note that 2016 saw an extra 12,000 spots added to the quota mid year as well. I don't believe there is 80,000 in the processing queue as they have been churning out 12,000 cases per quarter. That far exceeds the intake.

That said, if he wants to meet his targets (and I genuinely think he does -- he has caught a lot of flack over the family class), he can always have the house agree to up the limit again mid year to absorb the rest of the backlog.

 

[mr-moose]

Wow. We were so close to getting things submitted. We just completed up-front medicals this week and all I'm waiting on now is my UK police clearance (as we lived there for a few years). I am thinking I will still apply under the old format given that is what we've followed up until now. Hopefully that doesn't pose any problem for us.

Prior to this week, the "Processing time" link was showing for our situation (Spousal application from Australia) would take 10 months. Now the page says 12 months with the little question mark providing the following text;
"This number is our new processing time objective for spousal sponsorship applications.

We aim to process about 80 percent of spousal sponsorship applications that we get on or after December 7, 2016, within 12 months from the day we receive the application."

Presumably the 12 month suggested by that "Processing time" link is now just a generic value.

Looking forward to finally being able to submit our application.

 

[CDNPR2014]

Presumably the 12 month suggested by that "Processing time" link is now just a generic value.

Looking forward to finally being able to submit our application.

exactly, just because the expected processing time is 12 months for everyone now, it does not suggest those visa offices that process applications quicker will not continue at the same pace as they are now. it is suggesting that 80% of application will not need to wait longer than 12 months. it's essentially taking all those current "processing times" and making them even across the board. i'm confident offices that process applications in 6-10 months now will continue to do so under this new initiative. and since the application is going to be simpler, i suspect we will see more visa offices around the world process in less than 12 months.

 

[profiler]

exactly, just because the expected processing time is 12 months for everyone now, it does not suggest those visa offices who process quicker than that will not continue at the same pace as they are now. it is suggesting that 80% of application will not need to wait longer than 12 months.

Personally, I will be interested to see the concurrency pattern and how they plan to use the remote VO's to off-load work from CPC-M.

 

[Bcboundboy]

exactly, just because the expected processing time is 12 months for everyone now, it does not suggest those visa offices that process applications quicker will not continue at the same pace as they are now. it is suggesting that 80% of application will not need to wait longer than 12 months. it's essentially taking all those current "processing times" and making them even across the board. i'm confident offices that process applications in 6-10 months now will continue to do so under this new initiative. and since the application is going to be simpler, i suspect we will see more visa offices around the world process in less than 12 months.

I hope you're right. I do slightly fear that visa offices currently delivering 6, 9, 10 months will find resources diverted away from them in order to bring others down to 12, which will slow those quicker ones down. It'll be interesting to see how it works out.

 

[CDNPR2014]

I hope you're right. I do slightly fear that visa offices currently delivering 6, 9, 10 months will find resources diverted away from them in order to bring others down to 12, which will slow those quicker ones down. It'll be interesting to see how it works out.

it will be indeed. however, we've seen this a little bit already with ottawa. ottawa has been charged with overflow duties, and applications are still being processed consistently in 4.5-8 months time. i think it's going to come down to the internal training. i'm really hoping this streamlined package and essentially less paperwork helps make their job easier, therefore more likely to get processing done quicker. fingers crossed for sure!

 

[profiler]

That was my point. If you have a remote VO with processing time, does that mean cases from other VO's will be shuffled to that free VO?

They are also closing/relocating CPC-V, so I expect it will be offline for a few months while that happens too. CPC-V was CPC-M's overflow...

 

[CDNPR2014]

That was my point. If you have a remote VO with processing time, does that mean cases from other VO's will be shuffled to that free VO?

They are also closing/relocating CPC-V, so I expect it will be offline for a few months while that happens too. CPC-V was CPC-M's overflow...

unfortunately, the only way we will know is to be patient and wait for it to all unfold...

 

[profiler]

unfortunately, the only way we will know is to be patient and wait for it to all unfold...

I always fail at patience games...

 

[Timosky99]

I always fail at patience games...

Not only fail..
We will see how things goes, my interest is if they will process old applicant's faster in accordance of this new law

 

[Aquakitty]

i was just about to send an application for my wife. been working on it for months lol. shes in the uae and im in canada.

now i think i'll wait for the new application as its streamlined and i feel they will be able to get through it faster. what do you all think? ;D

I'd send it now if you're ready. I think they will, logically, go through the old forms quicker than the new. Even if they don't, having it in there earlier isn't a bad thing. There might be a massive influx with the new forms.

Regarding the conditional PR: I don't agree with repealing that completely. It's just a band-aid solution. All they had to do, was put in an exception for those who have lived together for more than the required years. For instance, my now husband and I have lived together, literally, for 10 years. But when he applied for his visa we'd only been married for 1.9 years. So, they stuck him with the conditional PR, which might have been wrong, I don't know. It's kind of like being punished for getting married (though it in no way has any effect on our situation).

They should have:
1) Allowed for co-habitation to count towards the time together
2) Added a clause stating if there are extenuating circumstances, they wouldn't just rip the PR away from a spouse who immigrated then got dumped by their sponsor.

This is a tough situation though, because relationships as we all know are hard to monitor.

Still, the amount of frauds out there probably isn't that high, and they do have a process to weed those out (interviews).