Effective date of Bill C24

[marcus66502]

So what practical benefits will a person who already poses a passport with the same perks will get by becoming Canadian?

Here's a practical benefit: eligibility for jobs with the federal government.

Before you start with the typical average person's attitude about jobs with the government, let me just say that I don't care. A job with the government (especially the federal government) ROCKS. You're not pushed to make a profit for your bosses.


Here's another practical benefit: eligibility to vote

If this isn't something you care about either, keep in mind that others might. I, for one, want to have a voice in the government that taxes my employment income.


How about another practical benefit: eligibility for consular assistance from Canada, when you're stranded or in a dire situation abroad.

Again, we're talking about benefits in general in here. Not benefits that YOU deem worthy.

I could go on and on and on.

If you can't see further than your own nose, I suggest you stop spilling out questions that might come and bite you in the a.ss.

 

[Dave01]

RQ = residence questionnaire

It is a request at some point while the application is in process, where they want specific extra different documents which can confirm your physical presence in Canada.
The problem with getting a RQ is that it can take years to be processed , because the application is not routine anymore.

Oh Thanks man

 

[marcus66502]

It is not about me, I will be eligible to apply before the summer...
Being Canadian will not give me more benefits than I already have from my country's passport.

I am talking about that there is nothing official that can support when the cut off date will be... we are approaching February already and it is getting suspicious that the cut off date is still a mystery for such a big change

If you've followed any of the practices of the Harper Government, then you should know that there's usually no official announcement of any new law implementation before it happens.

This is no different. I expect no official announcement beforehand. And I don't think it helps to use the media to press people like Alexander for an exact date. There won't be any.

All I expect is that the 4/6 residency requirement will be in full force the day the CIC website is updated with this new requirement for new applicants.

Stop writing a dozen posts whining about why this should be so. It just is and we have no voice in the matter. Move on please.

 

[marcus66502]

Exactly,
All the residents who will be impacted by this law, will vote against the conservatives on the next elections. Like someone here already mentioned... "I will never vote for a party who made me a second class citizen."

This might make some logical sense but you don't really have any solid data on a macro scale to make that observation.

I can tell you what's going to happen in my case. Once I'm a citizen, I'm on the other side of the line, regardless of whether I had to wait an extra year for it or not. I don't for a moment believe that my citizenship will be second-class. It'll get me the same passport as someone who had citizenship before this law.

I'm certainly not going to rule out voting for conservatives for the rest of my life just because they made me wait one extra year. Once I'm a citizen, that is irrelevant and in the past. I'm going to vote for the party that best represents my economic interests as of election day, and if that happens to be the conservatives, then so be it.

Past grudges aren't usually relevant to the future. Going forward, you always have to choose the lesser of two evils.

 

[MUFC]

Here's a practical benefit: eligibility for jobs with the federal government.

Before you start with the typical average person's attitude about jobs with the government, let me just say that I don't care. A job with the government (especially the federal government) ROCKS. You're not pushed to make a profit for your bosses.


Here's another practical benefit: eligibility to vote

If this isn't something you care about either, keep in mind that others might. I, for one, want to have a voice in the government that taxes my employment income.


How about another practical benefit: eligibility for consular assistance from Canada, when you're stranded or in a dire situation abroad.

Again, we're talking about benefits in general in here. Not benefits that YOU deem worthy.

I could go on and on and on.

If you can't see further than your own nose, I suggest you stop spilling out questions that might come and bite you in the a.ss.

I am working for myself, because I just refuse to waste 8-10 hours of my day working something conventional like government jobs... having the freedom to manage your time in a way you like is the biggest bliss because it that way it is not exploited from the system that much.

And again your post is just another confirmation for me that there is no practical benefit for me by being Canadian. The problem is that I've realized that recently.

I am not interested in voting too, because at the end the government will continue to steal from the people.

My country also helps to people in danger abroad pretty effectively too.

I got the same visa free access around the world and the same access to quality medical care ...

I don't see any difference if I have Canadian passport or not.

I already have the same perks from my home country.

 

[CanadianCountry]

How much in advance the application be sent before the cutoff date so that it is considered under 3/4 rules?

 

[MUFC]

Every application will be processed under the 3/4 rule if it's in the CIC office before 1st of July.
After 1st of July the new rules start.

 

[marcus66502]

"There are parts that will not take legal effect until July, 2015. For instance, the current law for counting of days needed to qualify for citizenship will continue and not change to the four years out of six years in the new Bill until next summer."

h t t p : / / w w w . d a v I d d a v i s l a w . c o m / a r t i c l e ;story,106;Citizenship-Bill-C-24

Why are we quoting lawyer opinions? What makes their guesses any better than ours? What inside information do they have access to that we don't?

 

[MUFC]

Why are we quoting lawyer opinions? What makes their guesses any better than ours? What inside information do they have access to that we don't?

Ok I see you still answering from the archive... tell me when you reach the last page

 

[marcus66502]

I am working for myself, because I just refuse to waste 8-10 hours of my day working something conventional like government jobs... having the freedom to manage your time in a way you like is the biggest bliss because it that way it is not exploited from the system that much.

And again your post is just another confirmation for me that there is no practical benefit for me by being Canadian. The problem is that I've realized that recently.

I am not interested in voting too, because at the end the government will continue to steal from the people.

My country also helps to people in danger abroad pretty effectively too.

I got the same visa free access around the world and the same access to quality medical care ...

I don't see any difference if I have Canadian passport or not.

I already have the same perks from my home country.

Good for you.

Then I have to echo torontosm: for someone who stands to gain no major benefits from Canadian citizenship, you sure do seem to have the loudest mouth in here.

Think you can tone it down a notch? Like I said: it is what it is. This government won't provide any advance notice. Let's move on.

 

[MUFC]

I already know the cut off date... that's why you not gonna hear a question from me about that anymore.

 

[marcus66502]

For what it's worth, I've already called CIC twice on the implementation date of the 4-year residency requirement: on June of last year, right after Bill C24 was passed, and on December 19th last month. I will be eligible to apply on June 2nd this year so this hits home.

The first time I called in June, and obviously back then the Call Centre agents had to go to the supervisors to get this info. The lady I spoke to put me on hold and after speaking to her boss came back to me and said the implementation date would be July 19th, 2015. I asked her if she was sure of this. She said she was pretty sure.

The second time last month I decided I wasn't going to ask the agent to go to her boss to make sure. I figured most of them would've done this already from the calls they've been getting. I told the lady I would be eligible to apply June 2nd and there hadn't been any official advance notice about the effective date so I was really worried. She told me not to worry as they know for sure that the implementation date will NOT be before July 1st. She said to start collecting documents now and apply on June 3rd as soon as I became eligible and I'd be fine.

I'm hoping she's right, but needless to say there's no reason to take a Call Centre agent's word as the final authority. I'm checking the CIC website every week-day and the way I see it, if it's not updated with the new requirement by June 5th (when my application is projected to reach Sydney) then I might just be in the clear. (... just....)

 

[MUFC]

I got the same information as you... it will not be enforced before 1st of July. I also refused to talk with the regular call agents and the boss answered the same... Everybody who submit the application before 1st July will be processed under the old rules.

So you are fine

 

[CanadianCountry]

If the application is sent before the cutoff and received by CIC after cutoff, then which rule applies?

Also the CIC don't issue the case number as soon as they receive the application. Will the 3/4 apply to those files which have been received and provided case number before the cutoff?

Every application will be processed under the 3/4 rule if it's in the CIC office before 1st of July.
After 1st of July the new rules start.

 

[MUFC]

The application must be in the CIC office before July 1st, if they receive the application on June 30 it will be processed under the old rules.