Expiry date of extended status in Citizenship application.

[mathewChristian97]

Points:

• 2 months before my PGWP was about to expire, I applied to extend my work permit.
• However my PR was approved before my extended work permit application.
• 1 month after my PR was approved, my extended work permit application was approved which I then returned to IRCC as I had no use of it.
• Now in citizenship application it asks if I extended my work permit to which I answer yes.
  
  • For the section "Expiry date of extended status":
    
    • If I put the extended work permit expiry date - it complains: This date must be before the date you became a permanent resident.
    • If I put the date before I became a PR - it complains: Date must be after your status expired.

I am very confused as to what date to put. Can someone please kindly shed some light into this?

This appears to be unhandled edge case on IRCC's side. Did it anyone ever encounter this or knows the best way forward with this issue?

Should I incorrectly say "No" that I did not extend my work permit but add my documents and a letter of explanation if there is no correct way really?

 

[armoured]

Should I incorrectly say "No" that I did not extend my work permit but add my documents and a letter of explanation if there is no correct way really?

Personally I'd put 'no' as you did not complete the extension of your work permit. I don't think there's anything problematic about this at all.

 

[mathewChristian97]

Personally I'd put 'no' as you did not complete the extension of your work permit. I don't think there's anything problematic about this at all.

Thanks! Do you recommend I attach any LOE?

 

[armoured]

Thanks! Do you recommend I attach any LOE?

My own guess is that no, I do not think so.

But: you haven't clarified whether you are using any days from your pre-PR time in Canada. That might be relevant, and if so, perhaps a short LOE (just say you applied for the extension/work permit/whatever but PR was approved and received before the previous status expired).

I base this on my understanding that IRCC doesn't count out-of-status time prior to PR, and that they don't have the best records / know what to do with 'in-between' times (usually considered implied status - valid but ... they may not have records). So if you're using days from before your PR status began for physical presence - won't hurt to clarify that your previous did not expire before PR came through.

If you're not using days from before - personally I wouldn't even bother.

 

[mathewChristian97]

Thanks! Yes, I will be using my days before I became a PR. However I had no implied status, given I came as a student:
1. I got my original PGWP before my study permit expired.
2. And I got my PR before my original work permit expired.
3. I applied for my extended work permit before my original work permit expired and of course before I got my PR.
4. I got my extended work permit approved, after I became a PR.

Would you say I should still add a LOE?

 

[armoured]

Would you say I should still add a LOE?

I think my previous post was clear.

 

[KennNicJ]

Thanks! Yes, I will be using my days before I became a PR. However I had no implied status, given I came as a student:
1. I got my original PGWP before my study permit expired.
2. And I got my PR before my original work permit expired.
3. I applied for my extended work permit before my original work permit expired and of course before I got my PR.
4. I got my extended work permit approved, after I became a PR.

Would you say I should still add a LOE?

Hey were you able to find the right answer for the extension question?

It's weird that when you say no, it asks for a date of refusal, although it was never refused.

 

[KennNicJ]

Personally I'd put 'no' as you did not complete the extension of your work permit. I don't think there's anything problematic If I select "No," what would be the expiry date of my work status — the day before my PR is approved, or the expiry date of my PGWP? My bridging open work permit was never approved.

Personally I'd put 'no' as you did not complete the extension of your work permit. I don't think there's anything problematic about this at all.

If I select "No," what would be the expiry date of my work status, the day before my PR is approved, or the expiry date of my PGWP? My bridging open work permit was never approved. My status is defined by BRIDGING work permit application while I was waiting for PR. Shouldn't it be Yes to extension and then attach LOE.

 

[armoured]

If I select "No," what would be the expiry date of my work status, the day before my PR is approved, or the expiry date of my PGWP? My bridging open work permit was never approved. My status is defined by BRIDGING work permit application while I was waiting for PR. Shouldn't it be Yes to extension and then attach LOE.

Do whatever you like.

 

[rcincanada2019]

My own guess is that no, I do not think so.

But: you haven't clarified whether you are using any days from your pre-PR time in Canada. That might be relevant, and if so, perhaps a short LOE (just say you applied for the extension/work permit/whatever but PR was approved and received before the previous status expired).

I base this on my understanding that IRCC doesn't count out-of-status time prior to PR, and that they don't have the best records / know what to do with 'in-between' times (usually considered implied status - valid but ... they may not have records). So if you're using days from before your PR status began for physical presence - won't hurt to clarify that your previous did not expire before PR came through.

If you're not using days from before - personally I wouldn't even bother.

What is the proper status if, let’s say, SP expired in July but PGWP was applied a month before in June. Then PGWP was approved in September (all in the same year). How do you put that status in the activity/work history section? How to answer: “Do you have a valid status during the last 5 years?

TIA.

 

[abff08f4813c]

Thanks! Do you recommend I attach any LOE?

you haven't clarified whether you are using any days from your pre-PR time in Canada. That might be relevant, and if so, perhaps a short LOE

Thanks! Yes, I will be using my days before I became a PR.

Would you say I should still add a LOE?

I think my previous post was clear.

Yep, but just to be extra clear - yes a short LOE in this case.

Hey were you able to find the right answer for the extension question?

It's weird that when you say no, it asks for a date of refusal, although it was never refused.

My general understanding is that, as long as you add the LOE anything that gets past the computer is fine. A human will review and see you were truthful on the LOE, so there's no problem.

If I select "No," what would be the expiry date of my work status, the day before my PR is approved, or the expiry date of my PGWP? My bridging open work permit was never approved. My status is defined by BRIDGING work permit application while I was waiting for PR. Shouldn't it be Yes to extension and then attach LOE.

You can justify it either way. Yes to extension -> expiry the day of or the day before PR. Because it was never approved but you legit had implied status while waiting for the decision, and all permits and their statuses automatically end when PR is granted. (I.e. you can't be both a work permit holder and a PR, the latter implies the end of the former).

Or, no to extension, but status expired the day before PR (since you had implied status, as you'll explain in the LOE) works. The important thing here is that as armoured wrote some months ago to include the short LOE explaining how you are reckoning the implied status days.

What is the proper status if, let’s say, SP expired in July but PGWP was applied a month before in June. Then PGWP was approved in September (all in the same year). How do you put that status in the activity/work history section? How to answer: “Do you have a valid status during the last 5 years?

TIA.

Yes, you do have a valid status during that entire time period.

You were a student until that day in July when SP expired.

You were on work permit from that day in September when PGWP was approved.

What status you had in-between is a bit complex to determine (because being able to work after SP expiry but before PGWP approval depends on some conditions and we'd have to check to see which applied to you and so on) but there's no doubt you had it. Whether it counts as implied work permit or implied study, or just plain visitor, you had it.