Do We Buy Plane Tickets or Not??

[drakehound]

April 22, 2022: Applied for a spousal visa for my wife and her daughter from the Philippines
October 21, 2022: Medical exam completed for my wife and daughter
October 24, 2022: Biometrics completed for my wife and daughter
April 17, 2023: Eligibility completed for my wife ONLY
May 22, 2023: Background verification completed for my wife and her daughter.
June 26 2022: Wife received permanent residence visa expiring October 21, 2023.

My wife's daughter still has not received her passport request letter, and the Application Status Tracker still shows her eligibility status as NOT STARTED.

However, the Application Status Tracker gives my wife's daughter a Confirmation of Permanent Residence number and an expiry date of October 21, 2023 (the same date as my wife's).

The Application Status Tracker says, "When you’re approved for permanent residence in Canada, you'll get a Confirmation of Permanent Residence document. Below are details about this document." It then goes on to give the details, including expiry date.

IRCC does not reply to any messages.

It seems as though something is 'stuck' with my wife's daughter's application. Nothing has updated since May 22, 2023 and it seems that her as-yet-unissued visa will expire on October 21, 2023, which is rapidly approaching!

Do we buy a plane ticket for her or not? The fare is going up every day.

What happens if October 21, 2023 arrives and she still has not received her passport request letter?

This is so frustrating and frankly a little alarming...

 

[Kaibigan]

April 22, 2022: Applied for a spousal visa for my wife and her daughter from the Philippines
October 21, 2022: Medical exam completed for my wife and daughter
October 24, 2022: Biometrics completed for my wife and daughter
April 17, 2023: Eligibility completed for my wife ONLY
May 22, 2023: Background verification completed for my wife and her daughter.
June 26 2022: Wife received permanent residence visa expiring October 21, 2023.

My wife's daughter still has not received her passport request letter, and the Application Status Tracker still shows her eligibility status as NOT STARTED.

However, the Application Status Tracker gives my wife's daughter a Confirmation of Permanent Residence number and an expiry date of October 21, 2023 (the same date as my wife's).

The Application Status Tracker says, "When you’re approved for permanent residence in Canada, you'll get a Confirmation of Permanent Residence document. Below are details about this document." It then goes on to give the details, including expiry date.

IRCC does not reply to any messages.

It seems as though something is 'stuck' with my wife's daughter's application. Nothing has updated since May 22, 2023 and it seems that her as-yet-unissued visa will expire on October 21, 2023, which is rapidly approaching!

Do we buy a plane ticket for her or not? The fare is going up every day.

What happens if October 21, 2023 arrives and she still has not received her passport request letter?

This is so frustrating and frankly a little alarming...

I see no one here has come up with any ideas for you so far.

For my part, I have no brilliant insights to offer. I can see why you would be frustrated. Not sure it's cause for alarm. I think nothing is likely yo be fatal to the daughter's application. Should it come to pass that the as-yet-unissued visa expires, I am sure a new date can be obtained.

Have you tried sending webform? Contacting MP?

 

[armoured]

This is so frustrating and frankly a little alarming...

Have you tried asking your MP for assistance?

 

[ERCAN]

April 22, 2022: Applied for a spousal visa for my wife and her daughter from the Philippines
October 21, 2022: Medical exam completed for my wife and daughter
October 24, 2022: Biometrics completed for my wife and daughter
April 17, 2023: Eligibility completed for my wife ONLY
May 22, 2023: Background verification completed for my wife and her daughter.
June 26 2022: Wife received permanent residence visa expiring October 21, 2023.

My wife's daughter still has not received her passport request letter, and the Application Status Tracker still shows her eligibility status as NOT STARTED.

However, the Application Status Tracker gives my wife's daughter a Confirmation of Permanent Residence number and an expiry date of October 21, 2023 (the same date as my wife's).

The Application Status Tracker says, "When you’re approved for permanent residence in Canada, you'll get a Confirmation of Permanent Residence document. Below are details about this document." It then goes on to give the details, including expiry date.

IRCC does not reply to any messages.

It seems as though something is 'stuck' with my wife's daughter's application. Nothing has updated since May 22, 2023 and it seems that her as-yet-unissued visa will expire on October 21, 2023, which is rapidly approaching!

Do we buy a plane ticket for her or not? The fare is going up every day.

What happens if October 21, 2023 arrives and she still has not received her passport request letter?

This is so frustrating and frankly a little alarming...

I suspect by "permanent residence visa" you refer to COPR. Because the tracker doesn't have "VISA" information for PR applications.
This expiry corresponds with date you had your medical exams and this is normal thing for COPR expiry to be linked to either medical exam date+1 year or passport expiry.

In the worst case, you'll have to redo your medical. Other that that you should be fine. Again, the COPR number and expiry do not really matter.

 

[armoured]

April 22, 2022: Applied for a spousal visa for my wife and her daughter from the Philippines
October 21, 2022: Medical exam completed for my wife and daughter
October 24, 2022: Biometrics completed for my wife and daughter
April 17, 2023: Eligibility completed for my wife ONLY
May 22, 2023: Background verification completed for my wife and her daughter.
June 26 2022: Wife received permanent residence visa expiring October 21, 2023.

My wife's daughter still has not received her passport request letter, and the Application Status Tracker still shows her eligibility status as NOT STARTED.

A question (an important one): does your spouse's COPR have information about her daughter on it? It should have the information about the daughter in a section entitled "DEPENDENT INFORMATION" with name, dob, and the statement 'CHILD - ACCOMPANYING.'

Looking at this again: I suspect - STRONGLY suspect - that you inadvertently caused the error. I assume your wife and spouse are both outside Canada (i.e. together) in the PH.

When your wife received the passport request letter, it SHOULD have - and likely did - have language that read "Please provide your passport ... for each accompanying family member." (My emphasis)

This is quite standard. THERE IS NO SEPARATE PASSPORT REQUEST LETTER FOR ACCOMPANYING FAMILY MEMBERS.

I understand that you have been looking at the application status tracker, but those systems are UNRELIABLE - do not take what those systems say at face value. Or more precisely, they often mean something different than outsiders think.

In this case, your daughter's eligibility on a stand-alone basis is beside the point - your spouse absolutely would NOT have received the passport request if the daughter's eligibility had not been finalized too.

I think what you need to do is RESUBMIT your daughter's passport. Probably along with your spouse's passport and COPR to show what is going on. (It's possible her COPR will need to be corrected, depending on what is written on it).

I don't know how to do this in your case. Obviously through the local VAC (e.g VFS) but you may need to contact the visa office in Manila, or IRCC directly, or IRCC through your MP.

I know you will be tempted to blame IRCC for this - but there is absolutely no requirement that all accompanying dependents submit at the same time or even at all - family situations change, and it's possible that her child decided not to accompany. That's not IRCC's business. While I'm willing to grant that IRCC could make their letters more clear, etc., etc., forget about blame for now. Do NOT get aggressive with IRCC about this misunderstanding - it will not help you and could harm you. From their perspective (a perspective that is NOT technically wrong), you and your spouse did not follow the instructions. [Keep in mind - I'm not involved in this, just trying to help - and I'm telling you that anger will not help.]

For now, the ONLY issue at hand is that you and your spouse inadvertently did not understand the instructions and need to fix it. Fix it. If you want to figure out blame AFTER your spouse and her daughter are in Canada, fine - but get this fixed first, it is too important. (Again, the reality is almost certainly a misunderstanding)

 

[armoured]

Sorry if my capitalization sounded like SHOUTING, I jsut think this case pretty urgent and can understand the frustration.

 

[ERCAN]

A question (an important one): does your spouse's COPR have information about her daughter on it? It should have the information about the daughter in a section entitled "DEPENDENT INFORMATION" with name, dob, and the statement 'CHILD - ACCOMPANYING.'

Looking at this again: I suspect - STRONGLY suspect - that you inadvertently caused the error. I assume your wife and spouse are both outside Canada (i.e. together) in the PH.

When your wife received the passport request letter, it SHOULD have - and likely did - have language that read "Please provide your passport ... for each accompanying family member." (My emphasis)

This is quite standard. THERE IS NO SEPARATE PASSPORT REQUEST LETTER FOR ACCOMPANYING FAMILY MEMBERS.

I understand that you have been looking at the application status tracker, but those systems are UNRELIABLE - do not take what those systems say at face value. Or more precisely, they often mean something different than outsiders think.

In this case, your daughter's eligibility on a stand-alone basis is beside the point - your spouse absolutely would NOT have received the passport request if the daughter's eligibility had not been finalized too.

I think what you need to do is RESUBMIT your daughter's passport. Probably along with your spouse's passport and COPR to show what is going on. (It's possible her COPR will need to be corrected, depending on what is written on it).

I don't know how to do this in your case. Obviously through the local VAC (e.g VFS) but you may need to contact the visa office in Manila, or IRCC directly, or IRCC through your MP.

I know you will be tempted to blame IRCC for this - but there is absolutely no requirement that all accompanying dependents submit at the same time or even at all - family situations change, and it's possible that her child decided not to accompany. That's not IRCC's business. While I'm willing to grant that IRCC could make their letters more clear, etc., etc., forget about blame for now. Do NOT get aggressive with IRCC about this misunderstanding - it will not help you and could harm you. From their perspective (a perspective that is NOT technically wrong), you and your spouse did not follow the instructions. [Keep in mind - I'm not involved in this, just trying to help - and I'm telling you that anger will not help.]

For now, the ONLY issue at hand is that you and your spouse inadvertently did not understand the instructions and need to fix it. Fix it. If you want to figure out blame AFTER your spouse and her daughter are in Canada, fine - but get this fixed first, it is too important. (Again, the reality is almost certainly a misunderstanding)

Hm.. I thought OP's didn't receive the actual visa but just messed up the wording saying that the copr is the visa and received it in the tracker rather than actual visa counterfoil but it seems that you are right and they indeed got PPR for wife and submitted only one passport.

 

[armoured]

Hm.. I thought OP's didn't receive the actual visa but just messed up the wording saying that the copr is the visa and received it in the tracker rather than actual visa counterfoil but it seems that you are right and they indeed got PPR for wife and submitted only one passport.

It is a guess but from the sounds of it probably gthe right one. Wasn't clear to me at all at first.

 

[Xilikon]

My guess too... If you are not too far from Manila, the best bet is to go to VFS office with both passports, PPR letter and any other necessary documents and see if they can fix it. Most of the main offices like Manila VO, VFS and the embassy are close by.

 

[justwannaknow]

A question (an important one): does your spouse's COPR have information about her daughter on it? It should have the information about the daughter in a section entitled "DEPENDENT INFORMATION" with name, dob, and the statement 'CHILD - ACCOMPANYING.'

Looking at this again: I suspect - STRONGLY suspect - that you inadvertently caused the error. I assume your wife and spouse are both outside Canada (i.e. together) in the PH.

When your wife received the passport request letter, it SHOULD have - and likely did - have language that read "Please provide your passport ... for each accompanying family member." (My emphasis)

This is quite standard. THERE IS NO SEPARATE PASSPORT REQUEST LETTER FOR ACCOMPANYING FAMILY MEMBERS.

I understand that you have been looking at the application status tracker, but those systems are UNRELIABLE - do not take what those systems say at face value. Or more precisely, they often mean something different than outsiders think.

In this case, your daughter's eligibility on a stand-alone basis is beside the point - your spouse absolutely would NOT have received the passport request if the daughter's eligibility had not been finalized too.

I think what you need to do is RESUBMIT your daughter's passport. Probably along with your spouse's passport and COPR to show what is going on. (It's possible her COPR will need to be corrected, depending on what is written on it).

I don't know how to do this in your case. Obviously through the local VAC (e.g VFS) but you may need to contact the visa office in Manila, or IRCC directly, or IRCC through your MP.

I know you will be tempted to blame IRCC for this - but there is absolutely no requirement that all accompanying dependents submit at the same time or even at all - family situations change, and it's possible that her child decided not to accompany. That's not IRCC's business. While I'm willing to grant that IRCC could make their letters more clear, etc., etc., forget about blame for now. Do NOT get aggressive with IRCC about this misunderstanding - it will not help you and could harm you. From their perspective (a perspective that is NOT technically wrong), you and your spouse did not follow the instructions. [Keep in mind - I'm not involved in this, just trying to help - and I'm telling you that anger will not help.]

For now, the ONLY issue at hand is that you and your spouse inadvertently did not understand the instructions and need to fix it. Fix it. If you want to figure out blame AFTER your spouse and her daughter are in Canada, fine - but get this fixed first, it is too important. (Again, the reality is almost certainly a misunderstanding)

Agree with the above there should be a passport request for your spouse and all her dependents

in my situation where there was my spouse her Two kids and 1 grandson all the passports were submitted and the tracker didn’t even should the background verification for the dependents as started until we received the passport request letter.

 

[armoured]

Agree with the above there should be a passport request for your spouse and all her dependents

in my situation where there was my spouse her Two kids and 1 grandson all the passports were submitted and the tracker didn’t even should the background verification for the dependents as started until we received the passport request letter.

There already was a passport request letter, if I've understood the above.

And I would ignore the info about background verification etc for dependents in this case. In our case no info on that page changed after passport request letter until well after all visas stamped in passport. (And in case above was not stamped in daughter's passport).

 

[drakehound]

I suspect by "permanent residence visa" you refer to COPR. Because the tracker doesn't have "VISA" information for PR applications.

By "permanent residence visa" I am referring to the visa that is now stamped in my wife's passport.

 

[ERCAN]

By "permanent residence visa" I am referring to the visa that is now stamped in my wife's passport.

Thank you. Then I misunderstood your post. Please refer to @armoured reply

 

[drakehound]

A question (an important one): does your spouse's COPR have information about her daughter on it? It should have the information about the daughter in a section entitled "DEPENDENT INFORMATION" with name, dob, and the statement 'CHILD - ACCOMPANYING.'

Yes, her information is there on the COPR.

Looking at this again: I suspect - STRONGLY suspect - that you inadvertently caused the error. I assume your wife and spouse are both outside Canada (i.e. together) in the PH.

Wife and daughter are both together in the Philippines.

When your wife received the passport request letter, it SHOULD have - and likely did - have language that read "Please provide your passport ... for each accompanying family member." (My emphasis)

It did, but then I read quite clearly on the VFS Global website:

"For families, please do not submit passports for family members until a passport request letter issued by IRCC has been received specifically for that individual. "

https://visa.vfsglobal.com/phl/en/can/passport-submission

I think what you need to do is RESUBMIT your daughter's passport. Probably along with your spouse's passport and COPR to show what is going on. (It's possible her COPR will need to be corrected, depending on what is written on it).

I don't know how to do this in your case. Obviously through the local VAC (e.g VFS) but you may need to contact the visa office in Manila, or IRCC directly, or IRCC through your MP.

Okay, thanks. Will do.

 

[drakehound]

Have you tried asking your MP for assistance?

Do you mean, as in Member of Parliament?

No, I haven't.