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December 2024 - Citizenship Applications

blueflags

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For the folks who were asked to provide fingerprints and now have the background check completed, how long did this process take you?
I have my FP collected on Feb 27, RCMP sent out the result to the Vancouver office on Mar 4. But I am still waiting.. ;'(
I got the FP request Feb 13th, and had fingerprints taken at Vancouver PD Feb 24th. Background shows completed March 11th and that reflected in the tracker on March 13th.
 
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blueflags

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These are very wise words.
As for your PR renewal, I was in the same boat where my processing timeline started going beyond the advertised timeline. I have been a PR for over 15 years and my PR card was expired. Submitting webforms resulted in silly responses that didn't even acknowledge my questions.
In this situation, I did what @WantToImmigrate suggested and requested ATIP from IRCC and CBSA. And guess what? Less than a week after I submitted the requests and they went to an in-progress status on my ATIP dashboard, my PR renewal was approved. LOL I am now convinced that this may not have been a coincidence.
lol, I'm sure it didn't hurt to escalate things from you end. Mine came after I submitted my second complaint about the slow processing. Again, could have just been random but I like to think it helped XD
 
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ships0401

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lol, I'm sure it didn't hurt to escalate things from you end. Mine came after I submitted my second complaint about the slow processing. Again, could have just been random but I like to think it helped XD
May I know how did you complain for slow processing? I called at IRCC cust care number. They didn't give me any reasons.. just said that average processing time is 9 months.. for me it's just been 3 months so I should wait.
Honestly that was quite a disappointing response.
Applicans who applied after me have already got their oath ceremony scheduled. My BCG status has not been updated till date.
 

WantToImmigrate

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May I know how did you complain for slow processing? I called at IRCC cust care number. They didn't give me any reasons.. just said that average processing time is 9 months.. for me it's just been 3 months so I should wait.
Honestly that was quite a disappointing response.
Applicans who applied after me have already got their oath ceremony scheduled. My BCG status has not been updated till date.
I wouldn't advise but just for the sake of trying to answer your question: One can submit a webform, complain to their MP, and/or sue IRCC. Maybe, the call center rep could have given you more options. Maybe try asking on Facebook Messenger?

I get it. I've been in unlucky too. More on it here: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/december-2024-citizenship-applications.861715/page-53#post-11020630
But, application processing is not a queue. Some applications are quicker, others are not, due to factors that maybe out of our control.

All the best!
 
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moman21

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I wouldn't advise but just for the sake of trying to answer your question: One can submit a webform, complain to their MP, and/or sue IRCC. Maybe, the call center rep could have given you more options. Maybe try asking on Facebook Messenger?

I get it. I've been in unlucky too. More on it here: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/december-2024-citizenship-applications.861715/page-53#post-11020630
But, application processing is not a queue. Some applications are quicker, others are not, due to factors that maybe out of our control.

All the best!
Remember, that the officers are also human beings...some are good at what they do, others take their sweet time. And some may be biased even unconsciously which impacts how long it takes them to process things. For example, disgruntled/overworked employees often do not care about much and will slow work down. There is also the point that citizenship applications are just 1 category of many other applications IRCC os processing. These officers may be working on multiple streams.
My point is what @WantToImmigrate is saying....lots of unknown. We would drive ourselves crazy trying to make sense of it. Unfortunately the processing time is now 9 months; all we can do is wait it out and hope for the best.
 
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dec12aor

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Update:
Type: Online application
Location: Toronto, Ontario.
Physical Presence Days: 1795.
Application: Single.
Application sent: Dec 6th, 2024.
Delivered: Dec 6th, 2024.
AOR: Dec 16th, 2024.
Tracker: Dec 18th, 2024.
Ghost update: Jan 25th, 2025.
Ghost update 2: Jan 29th, 2025.
Test update in tracker and test email: Feb 4th, 2025.
Test window: Feb 14th to March 15th, 2025.
Test taken and passed: Feb 14th, 2025.
Test marked as complete: Feb 21th, 2025.
Fingerprint request letter received: Feb 19th, 2025.
Fingerprints given: Feb 19th, 2025.
Background check complete: March 14th, 2025 (reflected on tracker March 18th)
LPP completed: March 19 (reflected on tracker March 21)
Oath ceremony : Waiting
 

armoured

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Remember, that the officers are also human beings...some are good at what they do, others take their sweet time. And some may be biased even unconsciously which impacts how long it takes them to process things.
These human factors (or other ones you didn't name) are certainly true - but I'm going to guess that the biggest differences are things we don't know about. First and foremost of unseen things - I'd expect are them waiting for responses from other agencies. Which usually doesn't take long - but sometimes, does.

Biggest and most obvious are likely the criminal and security checks/clearances - and may be complicated in ways that we don't see or know. (Eg someone gets a criminal record check that overlaps with someone else's name - extra time to unwind that and clarify.) Language - easy most of the time (those with up-to-date english language tests), but some evidence might need judgment; and hope your English language test wasn't from a centre that had fraud problems. Prohibitions - as weird and far-fetched as some of those might seem (war crimes?), procedures for some cases might be more onerous than outsiders would think. Physical presence - complicated ones with a lot of travel means more checking. Errors or gaps in entry/exit records - checking against other evidence (like employment?), which probably requires judgment, thought and possibly a sign-off from someone more senior. Etc.

As for the humans working on the files: we don't know how they're organized, but they probably have their most experienced officers working on the difficult files/issues. Junior ones can process a lot of files, but have to kick out or get advice for the complicated issues - meaning delays in coordination. (Probably increasingly computerized algorithms - which may or may not be called AI - giving preliminary approval for many / kicking some out of simplified procedures for further checks). Etc.

Plus there are attempts to apply without requisites and mistakes that are made on physical presence and other areas. Previous (potential) misrepresentations that may require checks or bring up issues they look at. (It would probably help if legal/political environment were such that they could occasionally cut down the requirements, or simplify ones which add inordinate amounts of staff time/costs - but alas, it's usually the opposite, with scandals and mistakes increasing demands.)

Sure, some employees are better than others. Some organizations and procedures are better than others, too (at least for some types of files). But the actual applications (profiles of applicants) differ quite a bit and there's no way they're going to be processed 'in order'.

How much these differ by officers and for reasons that are 'valid' - one can only guess. And of course, some serious screw-ups do happen (all large organizations with complicated procedures have them). But gut reaction to blame it all upon 'bad staff' leaves a lot out.

Doesn't get a lot of credit but the anecdotal comments I've heard from people who got their citizenship 10-15-20 years ago universally make it sound horrific, with major delays. But those are anecdotal, and I don't know how accurate.
 
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hazelb712

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These human factors (or other ones you didn't name) are certainly true - but I'm going to guess that the biggest differences are things we don't know about. First and foremost of unseen things - I'd expect are them waiting for responses from other agencies. Which usually doesn't take long - but sometimes, does.

Biggest and most obvious are likely the criminal and security checks/clearances - and may be complicated in ways that we don't see or know. (Eg someone gets a criminal record check that overlaps with someone else's name - extra time to unwind that and clarify.) Language - easy most of the time (those with up-to-date english language tests), but some evidence might need judgment; and hope your English language test wasn't from a centre that had fraud problems. Prohibitions - as weird and far-fetched as some of those might seem (war crimes?), procedures for some cases might be more onerous than outsiders would think. Physical presence - complicated ones with a lot of travel means more checking. Errors or gaps in entry/exit records - checking against other evidence (like employment?), which probably requires judgment, thought and possibly a sign-off from someone more senior. Etc.

As for the humans working on the files: we don't know how they're organized, but they probably have their most experienced officers working on the difficult files/issues. Junior ones can process a lot of files, but have to kick out or get advice for the complicated issues - meaning delays in coordination. (Probably increasingly computerized algorithms - which may or may not be called AI - giving preliminary approval for many / kicking some out of simplified procedures for further checks). Etc.

Plus there are attempts to apply without requisites and mistakes that are made on physical presence and other areas. Previous (potential) misrepresentations that may require checks or bring up issues they look at. (It would probably help if legal/political environment were such that they could occasionally cut down the requirements, or simplify ones which add inordinate amounts of staff time/costs - but alas, it's usually the opposite, with scandals and mistakes increasing demands.)

Sure, some employees are better than others. Some organizations and procedures are better than others, too (at least for some types of files). But the actual applications (profiles of applicants) differ quite a bit and there's no way they're going to be processed 'in order'.

How much these differ by officers and for reasons that are 'valid' - one can only guess. And of course, some serious screw-ups do happen (all large organizations with complicated procedures have them). But gut reaction to blame it all upon 'bad staff' leaves a lot out.

Doesn't get a lot of credit but the anecdotal comments I've heard from people who got their citizenship 10-15-20 years ago universally make it sound horrific, with major delays. But those are anecdotal, and I don't know how accurate.
I just wonder if they do process LPP in batches... when is our TURN...
 

104romeo

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Sep 13, 2022
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Anyone that got the PR settlement email had any updates? Seemed like a bunch of people got the same glitch email on the same day including my wife and I , was hoping it meant an update coming our way.‍
 

moman21

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Dec 25, 2024
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I just wonder if they do process LPP in batches... when is our TURN...
I'd say yes, because they seem to do everything in batches. Most of us got our backgrounds marked as complete on the same date and we got test invites around the same time as well. So, I expect the majority will get LPP marked as complete around the same time too.
 

srn123

Newbie
Feb 20, 2025
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Update:

Type: Online application
Application: Single
AOR: Dec 30, 2024
Test done: Feb 16
Fingerprints Requested: Feb 19
FP Given: Feb 21
FP Delivered to IRCC: March 6
BG- Completed March 18
LPP- In progress in tracker

But i did call IRCC and the agent said everything on their side is completed even tho tracker might take time to get updated and i should just wait for the Oath email now.

Not sure why tracker doesn't say same but i guess all we can do is wait and go with the flow.
 

moman21

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Dec 25, 2024
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Update:

Type: Online application
Application: Single
AOR: Dec 30, 2024
Test done: Feb 16
Fingerprints Requested: Feb 19
FP Given: Feb 21
FP Delivered to IRCC: March 6
BG- Completed March 18
LPP- In progress in tracker

But i did call IRCC and the agent said everything on their side is completed even tho tracker might take time to get updated and i should just wait for the Oath email now.

Not sure why tracker doesn't say same but i guess all we can do is wait and go with the flow.
The IRCC agent told you your LPP is complete even though your tracker isn't reflecting it?