Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:
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I just checked the bills on today's agenda does not say anything of C-24
if could kindly say ?
if could kindly say ?
Wednesday, June 11, 2014
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6:30 p.m.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
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C-24 — The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration — Strengthening Canadian CitizenshipAct — Third reading (first time debated)
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Pub=projected&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=2
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6:30 p.m.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
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C-24 — The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration — Strengthening Canadian CitizenshipAct — Third reading (first time debated)
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Pub=projected&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=2
If you've got something against the arguments raised by torontosm, then you come out and address those arguments. You don't attack the person, and you don't call him vulgar names.vic48912 said:
By attacking the person, you've not only shown that you have no real arguments against what he says, you've essentially demonstrated that you yourself carry the negative characteristics you're attributing to him: you have an average 10 year old's IQ and lack the ability to critically and maturely address any issue.
The last fact stated by torontosm is correct: paying taxes does not in any way entitle you to eligibility for citizenship (correct in the sense that it can be proved so by pointing relevant citizenship law).
In general, I find that those who spent pre-PR time in Canada don't really have any valid arguments as to why it's unfair to eliminate the counting of pre-PR time for residence purposes, other than the fact that it inconveniences them. They try and try to appeal to emotions by saying they've been paying taxes and contributing to society but those arguments don't hold water when viewed from the side of someone not in that pre-PR group. Like I said before, if one person pays tax, everyone has to pay tax, and taxes are not conditional on anything else. What you're saying in essence is "I want to work in this country but since I'm not a permanent resident (yet) I should be exempt from taxes." You don't pass the laughing test.
As for you contributing to society (if we take the word in its literal sense), I bet a lot of Canadians beg to differ. They would see that you came here to study but then took work off campus that could be filled by a Canadian. Contribute to society my a**. You filled your own wallet with income that needs half a lifetime to be earned in some countries.
There you have it! Come out and say this isn't true (without calling ME names this time).
Just a troll, probably like this one: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/18/3523434/violentacrez-michael-brutsch-apologizes-cnnMWM said:
Ignore him.
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Guys lets try to stay professional in this forum without attacking each other in person.
This place is to share ideas. And we have to keep in mind that people diverse in ideas and opinions .. like Conservatives, NDP and Liberals in the Parliament ... everyone see things differently .. there is nothing right or wrong .. there are different ideas to be discussed. People see things differently... and there is nothing racist in the Bill even I disagree with some points.. it is just the Conservatives see things from other point of view ... and we have to keep in mind to be fair in judging something we have to keep our personal cases aside of that.
This place is to share ideas. And we have to keep in mind that people diverse in ideas and opinions .. like Conservatives, NDP and Liberals in the Parliament ... everyone see things differently .. there is nothing right or wrong .. there are different ideas to be discussed. People see things differently... and there is nothing racist in the Bill even I disagree with some points.. it is just the Conservatives see things from other point of view ... and we have to keep in mind to be fair in judging something we have to keep our personal cases aside of that.
When Chris Alexander presumes that 30k+ people have signed the petition only because they didn't understand it properly, I don't think that's about 'other point of view'. For me, it's an insult. And I believe, he should be out of Parliament on the next elections.sicko86 said:
I second that. He tries to discredit everybody and everything, so I am afraid it is not as simple as him just having a different viewpoint. So when somebody wants to take things further along the lines of that bill, I say it is ok to take our gloves off once in a whiletaleodor said:
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