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My_new_username

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So let me resume this.

I have IEC work permit. When I apply for spousal sponsorship I can work until my IEC work permit is valid. When it expires I stop working and I am waiting for my OWP, that was sent along with PR application. When I get OWP I can renew my SIN number and I can start working again until I get my PR?
 

zardoz

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My_new_username said:
So let me resume this.

I have IEC work permit. When I apply for spousal sponsorship I can work until my IEC work permit is valid. When it expires I stop working and I am waiting for my OWP, that was sent along with PR application. When I get OWP I can renew my SIN number and I can start working again until I get my PR?
Essentially, yes. I'm not sure if you formally have to transition from IEC to visitor or if that is covered by the OWP application.
 

My_new_username

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zardoz said:
Essentially, yes. I'm not sure if you formally have to transition from IEC to visitor or if that is covered by the OWP application.
Thanks. From what I'm reading I may just apply for visitor status. It's better to play safe. :)
 

truesmile

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I think you qualify for 'implied status' and can keep working. Others here may disagree, better to just call 1-800-CIC and ask them straight out.
 

little_apple

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Here my case:

I am on my second IEC visa which expires in March 2014.
I applied for PR - family sponsorship common-law through Vienna which will probably be approved in May/June/July 2014.
I will apply for a tourist visa for the time between my IEC visa and my PR because I know I have to stop working after my IEC visa expires.

BUT: My boss wants me to keep working because he thinks I have implied status because I applied for PR. I know that he's wrong and I told him that but he doesn't believe me.
I couldn't find a statement from CIC which makes this clear so that I can print it out and give it to my boss. Does anyone has a link or a general email address from CIC I can write to?
 

PMM

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Hi


screech339 said:
I agree with you zardoz. This discussion is beating a dead horse. Like you said, I just hope those who believed that they can continue to work after IEC or PGWP expires, won't regret this decision. I am not supporting their actions. If they managed to get away with it, lucky for them. If not, it may haunt them down the road. In any case, those that do get caught and gotten into a huge mess with CIC over it, don't come on here crying about how unfair CIC was to you and that you thought you were entitled to work after permit expires under the diguise of "implied status". I will quote a couple of famous lines. "Ignorant of the law is no excuse". "You reap what you sow".
There was an episode of "Border Security" yesterday on the Discovery Channel. It is about the CBSA. A Macedonian arrived at the Border Port of Entry to get a new work permit. He originally held an IEC visa, it expired, he submitted an application for an extension, while waiting for the LMO and continued to work. When he arrived at the POE, he was reported, for unauthorized work, banned from obtaining a work permit for 6 months, and as his original TRV and IEC expired had expired, he was reported for not having a valid visa. He was furthered inland to obtain a plane ticket home, and had to report to CBSA with the ticket the next day. So you take your status in your own hands if you continue to work on an expired IEC pretending you have "implied status".
 

zardoz

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Any idea which episode # that was?
 

little_apple

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AOR Received.
May 5, 2013
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May 27, 2013
Med's Done....
April 4, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
exempt
VISA ISSUED...
April 17, 2014
LANDED..........
in Calgary since March 29, 2012. Landed as PR May 3, 2014
zardoz said:
Any idea which episode # that was?
I just know it was a new episode, not a repeat. I watched it too
 

My_new_username

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zardoz said:
Any idea which episode # that was?
Try to find out which episode was yesterday on Nat Geo. I believe that the guy is from Moldova. I have posted this question in a FB group related to IEC. And I would say 100% of them would say it is possible to work on implied status, and probably a lot of them did. And they've got their extensions without problems. This issue gives much more questions then answers.
 

screech339

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PMM said:
Hi


There was an episode of "Border Security" yesterday on the Discovery Channel. It is about the CBSA. A Macedonian arrived at the Border Port of Entry to get a new work permit. He originally held an IEC visa, it expired, he submitted an application for an extension, while waiting for the LMO and continued to work. When he arrived at the POE, he was reported, for unauthorized work, banned from obtaining a work permit for 6 months, and as his original TRV and IEC expired had expired, he was reported for not having a valid visa. He was furthered inland to obtain a plane ticket home, and had to report to CBSA with the ticket the next day. So you take your status in your own hands if you continue to work on an expired IEC pretending you have "implied status".
I wonder if Jamesdavid saw this episode as well. I would like his thought on it. Probably say that it is a fictional show.

Screech339
 

QuebecOkie

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screech339 said:
I wonder if Jamesdavid saw this episode as well. I would like his thought on it. Probably say that it is a fictional show.

Screech339
Ha! This forum needs a "like" button. :-D

I love to see the debate. This issue is NOT clear cut. But I do hate it when people pass off their opinions as knowledge, especially when they do it repeatedly, and ESPECIALLY when it's possible that following that person's advice could have huge negative consequences.
 

HoneyEllis

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QuebecOkie said:
Ha! This forum needs a "like" button. :-D

I love to see the debate. This issue is NOT clear cut. But I do hate it when people pass off their opinions as knowledge, especially when they do it repeatedly, and ESPECIALLY when it's possible that following that person's advice could have huge negative consequences.
Now I need two "like" buttons - one for each of you!
 

Jellyfishy

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My_new_username said:
Thanks. From what I'm reading I may just apply for visitor status. It's better to play safe. :)
I heard that this was how you were supposed to do it and did it myself. Just remember to submit it in advance!
 

little_apple

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April 20, 2013
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June 4, 2013 & February 18, 2014
AOR Received.
May 5, 2013
File Transfer...
May 27, 2013
Med's Done....
April 4, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
exempt
VISA ISSUED...
April 17, 2014
LANDED..........
in Calgary since March 29, 2012. Landed as PR May 3, 2014
little_apple said:
Here my case:

I am on my second IEC visa which expires in March 2014.
I applied for PR - family sponsorship common-law through Vienna which will probably be approved in May/June/July 2014.
I will apply for a tourist visa for the time between my IEC visa and my PR because I know I have to stop working after my IEC visa expires.

BUT: My boss wants me to keep working because he thinks I have implied status because I applied for PR. I know that he's wrong and I told him that but he doesn't believe me.
I couldn't find a statement from CIC which makes this clear so that I can print it out and give it to my boss. Does anyone has a link or a general email address from CIC I can write to?
Nobody?
 

QuebecOkie

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AOR Received.
28-01-2013
Med's Done....
10-04-2013
Passport Req..
AIP 30-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
DM 30-08-2013
LANDED..........
10-10-2013
little_apple said:
Rob_TO has contributed a lot of helpful information on this issue. I shot him a pm asking if he has any insight for you. Hopefully he'll pop in.