##### Applicants VO Vienna please join #####

[BC2013]

Quebec App. 02/12/2010; AOR: 16/03/2011 Intervju: 28/11/2011 CSQ: 02/08/2012; Sydney App. 12/10/2012; Charged: 17/11/12; RBVO(Vienna): 9/12/12; MR: 4/2/13; MD: 14/2/13; PPR: ??/??

PPR today

Whoa! Thas was fast. Processing times for QSW - according to CIC website - are currently 31 months in Vienna (from the time the application reaches Sydney and the federal part of the process starts).

So there might be a ray of sunshine somewhere after all

Do you know how the correspondence for medicals and PPR was made (e- or snail mail)?

 

[oszi]

CIC just updated the excel files, up to June 30:

http://data.gc.ca/data/en/dataset?q=&sort=metadata_modified+desc&organization=cic

 

[oszi]

Here is the root of the problem why we do not see MR issued for FSW applicants:

During the first 6 months Vienna processed 95 cases with 267 persons from Pre-C50 category (out of which almost 40% was refused or withdrawn), but they only processed 31 cases with 80 persons from MI-1, 2 and 3 categories... so focus is totally on 5+ year old applications, while people selected by actual demand on the job market are kept in queue... makes totally no sense.

 

[BC2013]

CIC just updated the excel files, up to June 30:

http://data.gc.ca/data/en/dataset?q=&sort=metadata_modified+desc&organization=cic

Yes, I just noticed this myself. I have my own little spreadsheed comparing the older versions of 000023.xls I still have.
They are working primarily on older files - or have been the first half this year.

Here are the Vienna FSW Cases (the last four updates)

Vienna Pre-c50 MI-1
Cases Selection D Final D Total Eligibility Selection D Final D Total
04.10.12 0 151 151 3 1 21 25
08.01.13 0 145 145 3 1 21 25
09.04.13 0 133 133 3 1 19 23
09.07.13 9 71 80 4 1 14 19

MI-2 MI-3
Eligibility Selection D Final D Total Eligibility Selection D Final D Total
04.10.12 0 0 10 10 0 56 26 82
08.01.13 0 0 10 10 0 67 25 92
09.04.13 0 0 9 9 0 87 14 101
09.07.13 0 0 6 6 0 89 8 97

All FSW
Eligibility Selection D Final D Total
04.10.12 3 57 208 268
08.01.13 3 68 201 272
09.04.13 3 88 175 266
09.07.13 4 99 99 202

 

[DannyyBoy]

BC, nice spreadsheed! + for you
My opinion for Wieen VO, problem becam political. Someone decide on higher level to stop all immigrant from Europe, they need immigrant from India, China, Pacistan..Those immigrants are hardworking people for less money
Thats my opinion, maybe Im wrong..

 

[Movado]

BC, nice spreadsheed! + for you
My opinion for Wieen VO, problem becam political. Someone decide on higher level to stop all immigrant from Europe, they need immigrant from India, China, Pacistan..Those immigrants are hardworking people for less money
Thats my opinion, maybe Im wrong..

I can't disagree with you. Check this table for Manila - it's not the top performer, but than compare the result with the table in my signature. All applicants of Manila VO have been processed in up to 230 days, but some even in 105 days! I have one applicant from Accra - the same speed. Even CPP-Ottawa is processing slower, despite there is no file transfer delay.

...it's for PNP.

 

[Anvaller]

BC, nice spreadsheed! + for you
My opinion for Wieen VO, problem becam political. Someone decide on higher level to stop all immigrant from Europe, they need immigrant from India, China, Pacistan..Those immigrants are hardworking people for less money
Thats my opinion, maybe Im wrong..

Hmm! U might not be right if we consider some other developments. For example there had been efforts by Canada to bring in more immigrants from Europe because they believe European Immigrant would integrate easier, faster and better. In fact I am aware of different programs by different provinces aimed at recruiting only from Europe. Manitoba PNP has a committee that actually goes to countries like Spain, Ireland and some Eastern European countries to recruit prospective immigrants. It is easier for provinces to do this without outrage because they are not in the eyes of International Diplomacy like the CIC. Therefore, the CIC must keep things balanced.

In my opinion, the reason why it seems as if they are paying more attention to Asians is due to their very high population and their interest in Canada immigration.

Just my opinion

 

[Movado]

Anvaller,

MPNP officers were in China last year as I remember. Quite far from Europe. So, officially, their aim is "diversity".

Yes, there was a session in Ukraine last year as well.

 

[YodaAtCanada]

Here's the link:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/opendata-donneesouvertes/data/000023-eng.xls

By the way, if you have seen that CPP-O not only started processing FSW2013, but already issued visas, while they had a 10000+ persons backlog in April, see the Excel link (not impossible to process it in 4-5 month thou), I would say FSW2013 is handled out of the regular FIFO queue. At least in Ottawa...

oszi and BC2013 thank you for info.

By looking numbers in this sheet I got impression that this doesn't look so bad.
I mean, MI1 and MI2 are close to none. If they only have 233 cases in old backlog (pre-C50) and now our new cases around 240, what a heck are they doing there??
London has, only in MI3 category, 10 times more cases than Vienna. Overall London has almost 16.000 cases!! OMG...

And according to this table our dear Vienna has grand total of "only" 544 cases.

BTW this is near annual quota (500 completed FSW cases until end of 2013) that ex. Minister Kenny proscribed for Vienna.
Now I'm trying to find where did I picked up this information. Somewhere in CIC abyss for sure

 

[YodaAtCanada]

I found information about operational targets.
According to this, Vienna should process 500 cases exclusively for FSW stream until end of 2013

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/ips/economic.asp

I believe that our tracking table for May 2013 FSW stream has serious percentage of all applicants worldwide.
And currently there is only 14 cases for Vienna VO in table.
Therefore I assume that there is no more than 40 new cases waiting in Vienna.
Of course, this is just my opinion...

BC, +1 for nice statistics...

 

[oszi]

oszi and BC2013 thank you for info.

By looking numbers in this sheet I got impression that this doesn't look so bad.
I mean, MI1 and MI2 are close to none. If they only have 233 cases in old backlog (pre-C50) and now our new cases around 240, what a heck are they doing there??
London has, only in MI3 category, 10 times more cases than Vienna. Overall London has almost 16.000 cases!! OMG...

And according to this table our dear Vienna has grand total of "only" 544 cases.

BTW this is near annual quota (500 completed FSW cases until end of 2013) that ex. Minister Kenny proscribed for Vienna.
Now I'm trying to find where did I picked up this information. Somewhere in CIC abyss for sure

Yes, you are basically right, this is the situation (let's count in persons, because that is how the yearly quota of 500 finalized FSW applications are counted for Vienna):

• They had 544 persons in queue on 30th of June
• Out of which 233 are Pre-C50, 311 are C50 (MI-1, MI-2 or MI-3, I think none are FSW2013 in that number yet)
• FSW2013 could add about 140 more persons until this date by my calculations based on the spreadsheet, and penetration
• Let's say they will receive another 50-70 persons application with arranged employment and late FSW2013 applications
• That is about 730-750 persons, which takes almost exactly 1,5 years to process because of quota ergo they can just finish by end of 2014...
• Also, if they work in normal pace, they should just finish all Pre-C50 applications by the end of this year. So some of us should get MRs soon...

 

[DannyyBoy]

We finally woke up this forum, even just Vienna to wake up!
If every day someone brings something new it will encourage all of us
Support for all!!

 

[BC2013]

First of all, I don't think that they prefer immigrants from India over those from Europe. Yes, they aim for diversity, but Manitoba is certainly no place to look at too closely regarding this. Manitoba has a very high percentage of European settlers, so it is only logical for them to look elsewhere for new immigants.

@ Yoda
You can not really compare VOs like London and Vienna. For one, they are staffed totally different (London is able to handle a mich bigger workload), and the operational targets are different, too (500 FSW per annum for Vienna, London has something around 5,000 I believe).

And you are right, my first thought last night when looking at the new data was something along the lines of "not too bad", too. At least it confirms that they actually are working on the backlog, and looking at the new intake, the numbers have been dropping quite dramatically since early 2012. E.g. only 15 new cases arrived at Vienna in the first 6months/2013 - this is from 000026.xls (also as of June 30, 2013). So it is just a question of time - and what are a few more months, when you have waited for close to 2 years. Aaargh ...

 

[DannyyBoy]

Ok maybe in the end I'm wrong for Asians, but really worrying slowness of people from Vienna office..but it is important to think positively..and.."Time Is on My Side" our side

 

[YodaAtCanada]

First of all, I don't think that they prefer immigrants from India over those from Europe. Yes, they aim for diversity, but Manitoba is certainly no place to look at too closely regarding this. Manitoba has a very high percentage of European settlers, so it is only logical for them to look elsewhere for new immigants.

@ Yoda
You can not really compare VOs like London and Vienna. For one, they are staffed totally different (London is able to handle a mich bigger workload), and the operational targets are different, too (500 FSW per annum for Vienna, London has something around 5,000 I believe).

And you are right, my first thought last night when looking at the new data was something along the lines of "not too bad", too. At least it confirms that they actually are working on the backlog, and looking at the new intake, the numbers have been dropping quite dramatically since early 2012. E.g. only 15 new cases arrived at Vienna in the first 6months/2013 - this is from 000026.xls (also as of June 30, 2013). So it is just a question of time - and what are a few more months, when you have waited for close to 2 years. Aaargh ...

@BC, Yes, I know, in London they are well staffed and they cover much wider amount of people and countries.

But the numbers are actually pretty interesting, if we focus on grand total segment of table provided, - "ALL FSW":

All FSW
Eligibility Selection D Final D Total
04.10.12 3 57 208 268
08.01.13 3 68 201 272
09.04.13 3 88 175 266
09.07.13 4 99 99 202

We can see that they started faster processing from April 2013 and processed up to Final Decision (175 - 99) --> 76 cases
Do you guys agree that we can estimate their capacity around 70 cases in period of three months?

So, they still have 202 old cases. If we estimate around 40 new cases from FSW 2013 stream which are not in this numbers, we get total of 240 FSW cases.
76 cases in 3 months equals approx. 25 cases per month, so 240 / 25 = processing time of 10 months (from July)

If this is all true, I believe we should approach to FD for around 7 months by May2014 (because they already "spent" 3 months from July)
Of course, this is very immense assumption that they will keep pace of 25 cases per month

Am I too optimistic?

Disclaimer: This is just my observation and it might be completely wrong.