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I think CIC and especially some VOs slipped into serious backlog with arranged employment applications also, while basically a backlog here destroys the whole idea of letting people into Canada without any caps, just because they already have a job offer. Most probably after waiting for 2 years for a visa, they will not start that job they had the offer for, but rather land as any PR (who are without a job offer), and start searching for one as everyone else. So in the end with these waiting times, FSW-2 rather seems like a backdoor to FSW-1 to me, without caps. I think CIC did not think this over. There should have been caps (and probably quarterly caps, with a quarterly intake cycle) on FSW-2 also, to be able to keep it within 3-6 month processing times at most. Otherwise the whole idea goes to the trash...DannyyBoy said:Makes no sense to wait that long, who knows what will happen with employment when I get PR, really funny. My employer wait for AEO(arranged employment opinion) from HRSCD about four months, and after that I waiting almost 12 months in VO.. ridiculous isn't it
BC2013, could you please share link to this information/sheet?BC2013 said:Processing times have been updated - it is now 20 months for FSW (from 19 months previously).
Which is actually not too bad. I am now at 23 months ... :
P.S.
And they seem to be done with MI1 applicants, as there is no data in this column. In the data-spreadsheet (000023.xls) as of April 9, 2013, there were only 23 open MI1 and 9 open MI2 cases, so they should be done with them, at least.
So keep your fingers crossed, that they will now tackle the MI3 backlog
I know I saw somewhere they have now public database and statistics, but I'm unable to find it now
I'm not sure but I think I read somewhere that in VO also conducting system like CIC, which means FIFO (First In, First Out) order of processing.DannyyBoy said:
So if this is true, you should have priority over us, FSW May 2013 applicants.
Hey BC - we are FSW 2013 and, as previously mentioned, Vienna have been in touch requesting my PCC from the FBI (my husband is the principal applicant). Someone mentioned that they thought this was just as a result of an initial screening of our application and that nothing will happen when they receive the PCC. Anyway - just an update - after getting stalled by the US government shutdown, the PCC is currently enroute to Vienna so I will let you guys know if there are any further developments. Obviously we are hoping to be asked for medicals now but this appears very unlikely (not to mention unfair!) in light of all of your guys' situations. I will keep fingers crossed for everyone.BC2013 said:
Actually I am FSW2013 too, and they requested PCC for my wife the same day they asked for yours, and I sent it a few days later, like 4th of September. Nothing happened after. No feedback, no more e-mails. I hoped for something at the end of the 60 day period they given, still nothing.Ca7r10na said:
I will get my GCMS notes though in 1-2 weeks, and hopefully it will show something, if they touched my package, etc.
Here's the link:YodaAtCanada said:BC2013, could you please share link to this information/sheet?
I know I saw somewhere they have now public database and statistics, but I'm unable to find it now
I'm not sure but I think I read somewhere that in VO also conducting system like CIC, which means FIFO (First In, First Out) order of processing.
So if this is true, you should have priority over us, FSW May 2013 applicants.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/opendata-donneesouvertes/data/000023-eng.xls
By the way, if you have seen that CPP-O not only started processing FSW2013, but already issued visas, while they had a 10000+ persons backlog in April, see the Excel link (not impossible to process it in 4-5 month thou), I would say FSW2013 is handled out of the regular FIFO queue. At least in Ottawa...
The spread sheet is labeled "permanent resident inventory", it consists of several tables . check "SW cases". The seperate MI-columns distinguish between those still to be assessed, those which await a final decision, and the total for pre-c50, MI1, and so on.mataiz said:
http://data.gc.ca/data/en/dataset/b6f7c54e-ef4b-4ec1-8dde-7315e97d18eb
Unfortunately, it is still as of April 09, 2013, no updates so far.
Don't get your hopes up too high.oszi said:
I got my GCMS notes about one year after filing the application - and it did not contain much. Yes, the file had been touched by the local VO once it got there (within about a month), but just to update the personal info, and to do a preliminary check, if everything was complete (there is a note, that it looks "complete"). That was in March 2012. My guess is, that it will be similar for you.
BTW, don't be alarmed about the point assessment by CIO - they usually just stop looking at the points, once they reach the pass mark (i.e. 67). You will probably find in the oldest note the following from CIO: "Applicant appears to have 67 points or more on selection grid"
in 000023 table..can someone explain precisely the meaning "Assessment for Eligibility" , "Selection Decision" and "Final Decision" ??
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One good news from another forum, Balkan forum ..They wrote to Vienna so many time, and last response they received an invitation for PPR. That was today
Great news - they ARE ALIVE ;DDannyyBoy said:One good news from another forum, Balkan forum ..They wrote to Vienna so many time, and last response they received an invitation for PPR. That was today
Do you have any additional info (when did they file their applikcation - pre-c50, MI1, ...)?
The file "permanent resident applivants awaiting a decision" (as of April 09, 2013), file name 000023-eng.xls is about persons and/or cases pending. If you go to the page "sw-cases", you can see the Skilled Worker Inventory (number of open cases). From this I conclude the following:DannyyBoy said:in 000023 table..can someone explain precisely the meaning "Assessment for Eligibility" , "Selection Decision" and "Final Decision" ??
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Previous file (as of Jan 02, 2013) / current file (as of April 09, 2013)
At the dates mentioned above, there were open cases for
pre-c50:
awaiting selection decision 0 / 0
awaiting final decision 151 / 133
total for pre-c50 151 / 133
--> so they had worked on these files.
MI-1
awaiting eligibility assessment 3 / 3
awaiting selection decision 1 / 1
awaiting final decision 21 / 19
total for MI-1 25 / 23
--> so they had worked on these a little
MI-2
awaiting eligibility assessment 0 / 0
awaiting selection decision 0 / 0
awaiting final decision 10 / 9
total for MI-2 10 / 9
--> so they had worked a little on these, too
MI-3
awaiting eligibility assessment 0 / 0
awaiting selection decision 56 / 87
awaiting final decision 26 / 14
total for MI-3 82 / 101
--> they must have worked a little on these, too.
Total for all Federal SW:
awaiting eligibility assessment 3 / 3
awaiting selection decision 57 / 88
awaiting final decision 208 / 175
total for all FSW 268 / 266
Conclusion:
They had worked a little in all categories, but only on those files, that were already in "real" process, i.e. where a selection decision (points / pass mark) was already made, so possibly background checks were done.
Now to your question:
"Assessment for Eligibility" - this is for pre-c50 and MI1 files, where eligibility was not realy checked by CIO (maybe just preliminary). For MI2 and MI3, a "final decision" on the MI eligibility was already made by CIO (see PER), therefore it is not checked again by the VO (unless fraud is suspected, I guess). It might be different for the new FSW 2013, where PERs apparently state, that a final decision will be made by VO regarding eligibility.
For all cases, eligibility is checked by the VO regarding funds and minimum requirement (i.e. one year employment within NOC 0, A or B - which should be automatic for MI2 and MI3, since it is sort of identical to the MI-Check by CIO).
"Selection decision" - this is regarding the pass mark (points)
"final decision" - following the selection decision, the VOs usually check criminality and medicals, possibly also funds. Once satisfied, the final decision means Passport request and a Happy End.
Quebec App. 02/12/2010; AOR: 16/03/2011 Intervju: 28/11/2011 CSQ: 02/08/2012; Sydney App. 12/10/2012; Charged: 17/11/12; RBVO(Vienna): 9/12/12; MR: 4/2/13; MD: 14/2/13; PPR: ??/??
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