##### Applicants VO Vienna please join #####

[DannyyBoy]

@YodaAtCanada
Yes you are to optimistic, 25 cases per month for FSW is to much for slow Viennas, in that occasion many of us would already get a visa

 

[BC2013]

@ Yoda
25 cases per month might not be too far off the mark. I think, the slowness was primarily due to the reorganization, and files piling up.

In the first 6 months, they got a total of only 15 new FSW cases (all with a job offer, obviously). So add these to your prediction of new FSW-1s (assuming they have a similar number in the second half of 2013), and you'll have around additional 50 cases since July.

Always think positive - and hope for the best

 

[YodaAtCanada]

@ YodaAtCanada
Yes you are to optimistic, 25 cases per month for FSW is to much for slow Viennas, in that occasion many of us would already get a visa

DannyyBoy, yes but we need to stay positive
Actually, when I was stepping through the numbers, the fact that they woke up in April caught my eye.
From April on, we see significant improvement in cases processed.
That's way I became optimistic. Usually I'm pessimistic, you know how they say: "pessimist is optimist with experience"

 

[DannyyBoy]

I have two friends who also waiting a response from Vienna, one waits of may 2012, the second of october 2012, and here I am as of december 2012..and we're all in the same situation, all waiting for that famous MR For this reason I want to be realistic
And of course we just need to stay positive, that's ours only option for now

Support for all!!

 

[BC2013]

I have two friends who also waiting a response from Vienna, one waits of may 2012, the second of october 2012, and here I am as of december 2012..and we're all in the same situation, all waiting for that famous MR For this reason I want to be realistic
And of course we just need to stay positive, that's ours only option for now

Support for all!!

As Yoda has correctly pointed out, they have started reducing the backlog noticeably. This is reflected in the stats (April 2013 compared to the earlier data). Therefore, a tiny piece of optimism night be in order.

 

[alta.province]

Official processing time for FSW applications in New Delhi VO is 22 months but FSW 2013 applicants are getting AOR emails with a notice that their applications will be processed in 10 months.

VO Cairo is sending MR's to FSW 2013 applicants and their official processing time is 20 months.
VO Colombo is doing the same and their official processing time is 23 months.
VO's Pretoria, Sao Paulo, Bucharest and even Beijing are also sending MR's to FSW 2013 applicants.

I don't understand what is going on with West and Central European VO's ?

 

[Anvaller]

Well I understand ur concern but the thing is these VOs have their modus operandi in 2 categories. One being the general i.e receive application, do background check and issue visa while the other being method of approach local to the VO. This might include which category to prioritize and what will processing time be. These are determined by situations peculiar to the VO. Although, we have been asking the same question as to what Vienna has been doing but if u read the immediate past comments, u 'ill see that we are trying to believe (based on research) that Vienna seems to be sticking to FIFO approach. Which means old cases 1st.

 

[alta.province]

I respect FIFO system. That's the most fair thing any VO can do.

But it's strange that some VO's decided to issue visas to FSW 2013 applicants and let FSW 2010 applicants waiting. It's just strange. Who gives the authority to VO to do something like that? Ministerial Instructions are issued for everybody and apply to everybody the same way.

Some of those occupations from 2010 are not even on the new list of 24 in demand occupations.
How is that reflecting the labour market?

Those guys should have been in Canada by the end of last year at least.

Considering all facts with various VO's differences in operational procedures implementation and other issues with backlog, I told my wife today that if we will be getting PR visas in 2016 that will be like a lottery score.

 

[BC2013]

I respect FIFO system. That's the most fair thing any VO can do.

But it's strange that some VO's decided to issue visas to FSW 2013 applicants and let FSW 2010 applicants waiting. It's just strange. Who gives the authority to VO to do something like that? Ministerial Instructions are issued for everybody and apply to everybody the same way.

Some of those occupations from 2010 are not even on the new list of 24 in demand occupations.
How is that reflecting the labour market?

Those guys should have been in Canada by the end of last year at least.

Considering all facts with various VO's differences in operational procedures implementation and other issues with backlog, I told my wife today that if we will be getting PR visas in 2016 that will be like a lottery score.

According to Minister (at the time) Kenney's tweets in April 2013, MI8 would not have priority over earlier MI applications. When some VOs (e.g. Hong Kong) are already processing MI8 cases, look at their backlog - there is none.
CPP-O is in a special position - they are processing MI8 cases, although there are still earlier cases to deal with. IMHO, this is a political situation, connected to the strike and the promise to deal with immigration in general faster and more effecively.

Also, Vienna's situation is quite extraordinary, since they had to deal with additional files from two other VOs since last may. And I assume, they did not get additional personnel to deal with the additional workload.

Regarding your 2016 prediction - don't be so pessimistic. Looking at the data, Vienna is working on older files with a vengeance, hence clearing the backlog. I would think (and hope), that they cleared the remaining MI1, MI2 and MI3 cases by next spring, so MI8 files should be dealt with next summer.

 

[YodaAtCanada]

BC, how often they update statistical sheets?
I saw last update was on November 6'th, does that mean that next update will be on Februray 6'th 2014?

tnx

 

[DannyyBoy]

Something is going on with Vienna, we do not know what : They have same number of staff three years ago, and processing was incredibly fast, approximately six months. They solved hundred applications per month, and see now.. shame

 

[Anvaller]

Something is going on with Vienna, we do not know what : They have same number of staff three years ago, and processing was incredibly fast, approximately six months. They solved hundred applications per month, and see now.. shame

If they have the same number of staff now as they have 3 years ago, then that is where the problem is. Their workload had increased since over 1.5yrs ago. They should have also increased the number of staffs to commensurate with the increase in workload. That explains the the slow down.

 

[DannyyBoy]

@Anvaller
I agree with you and think that this now is a some kind of strike..like to tell us, they are not problem the problem is in the government of Canada.

 

[BC2013]

BC, how often they update statistical sheets?
I saw last update was on November 6'th, does that mean that next update will be on Februray 6'th 2014?

tnx

Theoretically, it should be updated quarterly. But in reality, you can never tell; the last update was early - mid April, reflecting the stats until March 30.
The next update should cover the time until October 31.

 

[BC2013]

If they have the same number of staff now as they have 3 years ago, then that is where the problem is. Their workload had increased since over 1.5yrs ago. They should have also increased the number of staffs to commensurate with the increase in workload. That explains the the slow down.

True - but this is only part of the problem. Don't forget, that in addition to the number of additional files / cases (without compensation regarding the number of staff) they had to sort through all the files received from Berlin and Belgrade and get them in the right processing order (according to OP1) - this alone took at least 6 months / until the end of 2012, when they did not work on the files, thus creating an additional backlog, which had to be dealt with.

But finally we can see some kind of progress - at least from the data-spreadsheets (since this spring). And if this trend continued for the third quarter too, then the numbers should be even better