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Seriously, if a low skilled TR can't get pnp, its because they don't want to leave their comfy ontario residence.
Eh, can we blame them for not wanting to move out of Ontario? Canada = Ontario, chances of finding similar jobs/salaries are very low elsewhere in Canada.
 

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Seriously, if a low skilled TR can't get pnp, its because they don't want to leave their comfy ontario residence.
But why should they have to? Not understanding the rationale behind making fun of someone for not wanting to get a nomination and/or move to a Province to which they have no ties at all.
Unless i’m missing something from your post.
 
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But why should they have to? Not understanding the rationale behind making fun of someone for not wanting to get a nomination and/or move to a Province to which they have no ties at all.
Unless i’m missing something from your post.
They are trying to pressure for more freebies like TR2PR and ruining the immigration process. All because they don't want to make an effort to become PR. Hardly anyone who applies through express entry woke up one day and had all the requirements. Everyone has to make an effort.
 
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Eh, can we blame them for not wanting to move out of Ontario? Canada = Ontario, chances of finding similar jobs/salaries are very low elsewhere in Canada.
You for example are making an effort of going to a province that isn't your first choice, to become a PR. So why would should canadian immigration adapt to Ontario TRs, who before the pandemic never knew it was possible to get PR without effort?
 

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They are trying to pressure for more freebies like TR2PR and ruining the immigration process. All because they don't want to make an effort to become PR. Hardly anyone who applies through express entry woke up one day and had all the requirements. Everyone has to make an effort.
This is going to be an unpopular opinion but here goes: TR2PR isn’t ruining the Immigration process, IRCC’s inability to properly project manage is.

Now, i still don’t see why anyone applying through Express Entry needs to have considered the PNP route to be seen as having made “effort”, regardless of how easy the eligibility requirements of a province might be. And especially if said province is not a place they would consider settling down in otherwise. You not wanting to move to the middle of nowhere in the Yukon doesn’t equate to you being lazy in your attempt to become a PR. That’s an insane leap in logic.
 

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This is going to be an unpopular opinion but here goes: TR2PR isn’t ruining the Immigration process, IRCC’s inability to properly project manage is.

Now, i still don’t see why anyone applying through Express Entry needs to have considered the PNP route to be seen as having made “effort”, regardless of how easy the eligibility requirements of a province might be. And especially if said province is not a place they would consider settling down in otherwise. You not wanting to move to the middle of nowhere in the Yukon doesn’t equate to you being lazy in your attempt to become a PR. That’s an insane leap in logic.
Applying extremes to prove your point doesn't make them less lazy. There are several provinces outside of Ontario/BC they can get PR. Before 2020 they never had an actual path. Nova Scotia is far from being Yukon. If they want to stay in ontario, they can, just remain as TR and stop trying to push worthless TR2PR program, which is so ruining immigration. PNP was created specifically for market demand, no reason to adapt for those who do not want to adapt themselves.
 

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Eh, can we blame them for not wanting to move out of Ontario? Canada = Ontario, chances of finding similar jobs/salaries are very low elsewhere in Canada.
*B.C. disagrees in the west coast with warm weather, closeness to Washinton and Calif and high real estate price.*
 
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You for example are making an effort of going to a province that isn't your first choice, to become a PR. So why would should canadian immigration adapt to Ontario TRs, who before the pandemic never knew it was possible to get PR without effort?
AB is my first choice for living but there are no jobs there, I'll even have to change careers. There are many jobs in ON in my current field. I'm going to AB because I have no way of going to ON right now. Even though I'd hate living in ON, I'd much rather pick OINP, stay there for 2-3 years to build a career, secure a Canadian passport, then move wherever I want (maybe AB but probably outside Canada).

The situation isn't a mere immigration problem though; it's about the Canadian job market. Majority of jobs are in ON and it's very difficult to find same/similar careers/jobs/salaries outside of ON, if at all.

*B.C. disagrees in the west coast with warm weather, closeness to Washinton and Calif and high real estate price.*
BC doesn't have half the jobs ON has. Salaries are lower too. Also BC has about 150 rainy days in a year so fuck that warm weather. To back it up a bit: https://www.ictc-ctic.ca/top-job-locations-for-ict-talent-in-canada/ this list is quite specific but in classical engineering fields the gap is even bigger.

BC has 166 rainy days on avg and is the rainiest place in Canada https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-wettest-city

Proximity to DC or Cali means shit if you're a PR lol you can only be a tourist. Also you take the same plane from ON to Cali so.
 
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TCF is easier than TEF. There are tons of materials online for TCF (Quebec, tp, .. etc) they are not much different. And for someone who has just started, there are materials for beginners, go forward with smaller steps but stay persistent.
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PNP draws never stopped. They will never clear PNP backlog because new ones come in when they process old ones.
Its not that they won't clear the backlog. They will process applications and strive to ensure that the processing times are within the "normal" timeframe (i.e. 6 months). That's why I think they stopped with CEC draws and are online inviting a couple hundred people every 2 weeks. Won't be surprised if this trend continues in early 2022 until they've cleared sufficient applications.
 
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This is going to be an unpopular opinion but here goes: TR2PR isn’t ruining the Immigration process, IRCC’s inability to properly project manage is.

Now, i still don’t see why anyone applying through Express Entry needs to have considered the PNP route to be seen as having made “effort”, regardless of how easy the eligibility requirements of a province might be. And especially if said province is not a place they would consider settling down in otherwise. You not wanting to move to the middle of nowhere in the Yukon doesn’t equate to you being lazy in your attempt to become a PR. That’s an insane leap in logic.
A low-skilled, low CRS person wanting a PR while staying in Ontario is akin to someone with low income and little funds wanting to buy an expensive property in a posh neighborhood without making any effort to raise their income.
 
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I doubt this is anything useful. What counts as "processed"? If an officer opens up a file for 2 seconds before sending out an ADR, is it "processed"? People don't care about their files getting processed; they care about getting the god damned PR. With the current trend of PPRs, it's not surprising to wait 1.5 years for a PR. That leaked IRCC doc said the same (avg proc time is 16 months for PNP and 21 months for FSW between Jan-Aug 2021). EE is a lot like the US lottery thingy now and looks like it'll continue to be for the next 2 years at least.

If the government of Canada really cared about immigrants, they would've done two things:

1. Increase IRCC's budget to grow IRCC by 50%. They can recruit officers on a 2 year contract (to have the chance to not extend some of those contracts once the backlog is sorted out).
2. Cancel all paid leaves for officers who wish to work from home in 2022. Pay the money corresponding to their leaves in cash using that increased budget.

EE is a paid service and what Canada is doing right now is just inhumane; a lot like those things they did to the natives not so long ago.
Yea I see your point but to me, processed means finalized. Otherwise, that statistic makes zero sense. And yes, the wait times are long now but they're trying to move the processing times up which might take some more time. Per Kubeir, he stated that per his understanding, IRCC agents will process old and new applications simultaneously so that the new apps remain within the 6 month processing period. For the older apps, the rationale is that since they've waited this long already, what's another couple of months. I know something similar was also mentioned in a Canada news channel with regards to the processing of spousal visa's which sucks but hey, did you expect anything less from IRCC?
 
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IRCC agents will process old and new applications simultaneously so that the new apps remain within the 6 month processing period
Have you checked myimmitracker recently? MEP/BIL alone takes 5 months now. The leaked IRCC document shows that this year's avg proc time is 15 months for PNP and 21 months for FSW. Kubeir and the others don't know jack; they've been selling dreams to people who are both too desperate to hear good news and too clueless to even look at myimmitracker.
 

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BC doesn't have half the jobs ON has.
BC has one third population if Ontario, naturally it will have about a third of the jobs of Ontario. Not to mention, if you are in ICT, very likely you can get a remote work.

Also BC has about 150 rainy days in a year so fuck that warm weather.
-50 degrees or drizzles and Sunshine intermittently? Is it even a choice?

Proximity to DC or Cali means shit if you're a PR lol you can only be a tourist.
It means a lot. Many of my friends got job in US and moved to B.C.. Every month (before pandemic) or so they used to take a day trip to Seattle, meet their bosses and shop in USA and then come back. In 2 years (1 year as WP), they got citizenship and now they can shuttle as they want. try doing this in Ontario. LOL!

(maybe AB but probably outside Canada).
Given that you want to live and work in USA, you could have very well applied for EB2 NIW in the first place. You would have got GC by now. Not being born in India or China makes it a cake walk with proper qualifications.
Heck you can apply to both places and then pick and choose where to live.
 
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Heck you can apply to both places and then pick and choose where to live.
Don't give me hope...

BC has one third population if Ontario, naturally it will have about a third of the jobs of Ontario.
Yeah and my statement was Canada = Ontario in terms of jobs, salaries, careers because most jobs are there (naturally). I think housing is about the same between ON and BC, BC was a bit higher than ON when I lived in BC. But your chances of finding higher salaries are higher in ON. Btw what's even funnier is BC = Vancouver lol

Oh and Vancouver = shit hole