What is the 2nd ID to use in Citizenship application? (I don't have a drive license.)

[powerssdd]

My application was just returned by IRCC, and the mistake is "You uploaded a foreign ID with your permanent resident card (PR card)."

To fix this issue

• upload a valid (not expired) photo ID issued by the Canadian government (with the PR card you’ve already uploaded)
  • You can only use a PR card if the second piece of ID was issued by the Canadian government (federal, provincial or municipal).
• if you don’t have another Canadian ID, replace the PR card with the bio page of your passport or travel document
• re-enter all of your ID information, and re-upload all
  • ID files
  • certified translation and affidavit (sworn statement)(opens in new tab) files (if the ID is not in English or French)
• we need you to re-enter all information even if the issue is only with 1 file
  • At this time, our system can’t tell you which file has the issue.

For the 1st solution, I cannot, because I don't have an ID issued by the Canadian government except my PR card.
I don't have a drive license, and my Albertan Health Card doesn't have a photo on it.

For the 2nd solution, I don't understand.
It says "replace the PR card with the bio page of your passport or travel document", but my 1st ID is already my passport, so both of my IDs are my passport? Essentially there is only one ID submitted?

Please help. Thanks!

 

[forw.jane]

My application was just returned by IRCC, and the mistake is "You uploaded a foreign ID with your permanent resident card (PR card)."



For the 1st solution, I cannot, because I don't have an ID issued by the Canadian government except my PR card.
I don't have a drive license, and my Albertan Health Card doesn't have a photo on it.

For the 2nd solution, I don't understand.
It says "replace the PR card with the bio page of your passport or travel document", but my 1st ID is already my passport, so both of my IDs are my passport? Essentially there is only one ID submitted?

Please help. Thanks!

You can try getting this - https://www.alberta.ca/get-id-card

 

[powerssdd]

You can try getting this - https://www.alberta.ca/get-id-card

Thanks so much!

 

[armoured]

You can try getting this - https://www.alberta.ca/get-id-card

Just noting that I think all provinces have something like this, a photo id card for those that don't have driver's licenses (usually you can only have a driver's license OR a photo ID). Very useful as photo identification for almost all purposes.

Since no-one wants to lose their PR card (i.e. not always a good idea to carry them around), and health cards a bit specific too (widely ignored, but there are restrictions on using health cards for ID, so some institutions can't accept them, etc). Photo ID cards accepted everywhere like a driver's license. While it doesn't 'prove' status in Canada, most of the time will be treated as if it does. (May be enough for internal flights, I don't remember).

Esp PR card: losing a PR card is a pretty big deal if you may need to travel, almost as important as a passport.

I've an older child who's lost/long-term misplaced his wallet/photo ID card three times now (that I know of). One time found and returned, another time found after a few months missing in his room - but he'd already replaced the photo ID card, which only takes a couple weeks nowadays (and a modest cost to replace). But the PR cards are kept separately - like passports - because we won't risk it. We'd've been really worried if it was the PR card.

 

[Seym]

Just noting that I think all provinces have something like this, a photo id card for those that don't have driver's licenses (usually you can only have a driver's license OR a photo ID). Very useful as photo identification for almost all purposes.

Not Québec. The only physical IDs they provide are the driving licence and health card.
As far as I know, that province is the only exception, and all others provide a photo ID for non-drivers.

 

[abff08f4813c]

My application was just returned by IRCC, and the mistake is "You uploaded a foreign ID with your permanent resident card (PR card)."

For the 2nd solution, I don't understand.
It says "replace the PR card with the bio page of your passport or travel document", but my 1st ID is already my passport, so both of my IDs are my passport? Essentially there is only one ID submitted?

Please help. Thanks!

If you had another Canadian ID (any kind - including the Alberta photo ID or a Quebec health card with photo) then you could just go with solution one, so I'm not sure why they say this. I suppose once you did that, you could then replace your PR card with your passport in that case and it'd still work (seems like it's an either-or kind of thing in terms of passport vs PR card).

I speculate that this is meant for the hypothetical case where you used two foreign IDs, as per https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0002-application-canadian-citizenship-under-subsection-5-1-adults-18-years-older.html

foreign identity documents, such ... government issued identification documents

But after reading https://archive.is/AlVu1 (where a person was rejected for using foreign passport + foreign drivers license) I have no idea what those "government issued identifications documents" could possibly be. Perhaps say a US passport + US passport card? Or a person with multiple citizenships who submits two passports? But I haven't found a case yet where someone successfully applied with two foreign IDs.

Not Québec. The only physical IDs they provide are the driving licence and health card.
As far as I know, that province is the only exception, and all others provide a photo ID for non-drivers.

The saving grace here being that in Quebec, the health card is normally a photo ID and is usable for purposes where one generally uses photo IDs in that province (and thus would have worked for OP).

As per https://archive.is/KTDea it seems the two exceptions to this are 1) some temporary workers can get a photoless health card (but those folks wouldn't be applying for citizenship anyways obviously) and 2) they may have rushed you a health card if you moved backed during covid (but you'd have gotten the photo id version in the mail eventually).