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Lord_Tony

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Mar 7, 2023
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NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
I don't think so, you only need a valid job offer and your passport at point of entry to get the TN visa.
Job market in Canada is so bad that there are people who legit move here to get the passport and work in the US.
And I'm not talking about just Asian people, many Europeans/British people do it too.
Edit: there's a list of occupations that are eligible for this visa and if yours isn't on the the list then tough luck.
I'm assuming your friends are in a non stem background?
Yes the equivalent of LMIA in the USA is LCA, the TN visa folks don't need an LCA.
However the TN visa is no as easy anymore, I have team members who tried many times (3 to 4) and the USA border agents who have to issue visa reject the applications a lo. My understanding rejections are a lot more common in technology areas, particularly for GTA folks who try to get it at Niagara. All cases I know are Asians so I don't know if it is racism of the USA immigration personnel
 
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GPA3

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I am not from India or China.. so my path is wide open?
If I need to take a 100K loan for a top US grad school, is it worth it with uncertainty to get GC?
I would never encourage someone to take such a big loan if your main intention is to get GC. I personally had to leave the US because I didn't manage to get picked from the H1B lottery and company was not going to file PERM and later I-140 for me on OPT so I had to leave (Expensive and very long process). I would say PERM is the equivalent of LMIA in the USA not LCA and is much harder to get for green card. I worked in tech and was not born in India or China btw yet it's very difficult.
 

imransyed

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Feb 26, 2020
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I am in biomedical research industry, thinking of doing master / Phd in CS / biomedical informatics / computational biology / bioinformatics. What sectors are you in? So you don't think that you should go to Canada master even if they are cheaper since you are a PR?
Right now I'm in construction procurement and the friends I'm talking about are into consulting, strategy and banking.. All non stem.
I don't have any resources or knowledge to say anything about your field or stem in general tbh.
 

ravyn

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Jan 10, 2023
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I don't think so, you only need a valid job offer and your passport at point of entry to get the TN visa.
Job market in Canada is so bad that there are people who legit move here to get the passport and work in the US.
And I'm not talking about just Asian people, many Europeans/British people do it too.
Edit: there's a list of occupations that are eligible for this visa and if yours isn't on the the list then tough luck.
I'm assuming your friends are in a non stem background?
Their occupations were on the list, it seems like it should have been easier but just didn't seem to work out. They tried for years.
 

qdee

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Mar 24, 2023
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I am in biomedical research industry, thinking of doing master / Phd in CS / biomedical informatics / computational biology / bioinformatics. What sectors are you in? So you don't think that you should go to Canada master even if they are cheaper since you are a PR?
I thought in the US most PhD programs are fully funded whiile masters might cost a fortune?
 

Lord_Tony

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Mar 7, 2023
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NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
Marco Mendicino was fired from his post, looks like is made big blunders as public safety minister and I am sure he made big blunders as immigration minister also especially in 2021, who here remembers discussion around his changes to express entry 2021?
I have seen many posts in twitter and FB praising him.
 

ivicts

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Jun 3, 2020
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AOR Received.
25-04-2023
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11-04-2024
I thought in the US most PhD programs are fully funded whiile masters might cost a fortune?
The problem is master's is much easier to get into rather than PhD program...
 

qdee

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Mar 24, 2023
148
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AOR Received.
28-04-2023
Their occupations were on the list, it seems like it should have been easier but just didn't seem to work out. They tried for years.
Maybe your friends were talking about the process of transitioning to a green card from a TN visa? I think that's when the PERM thing(similar to LMIA) plays a role.
 

Lord_Tony

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Mar 7, 2023
872
454
Toronto
Category........
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NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
Maybe your friends were talking about the process of transitioning to a green card from a TN visa? I think that's when the PERM thing(similar to LMIA) plays a role.
more than 50% of TN visas get rejected it seems, someone who gets blacklisted will never get a USA visa what I have seen.
 
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ivicts

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Jun 3, 2020
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AOR Received.
25-04-2023
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I would never encourage someone to take such a big loan if your main intention is to get GC. I personally had to leave the US because I didn't manage to get picked from the H1B lottery and company was not going to file PERM and later I-140 for me on OPT so I had to leave (Expensive and very long process). I would say PERM is the equivalent of LMIA in the USA not LCA and is much harder to get for green card. I worked in tech and was not born in India or China btw yet it's very difficult.
The majority seems to discourage that big loan.. Hmmm, but during your STEM OPT were you able to pay back your education investment (or loan)? How common is it for someone in tech not from China or India to not be able to stay in the US?
 

GandiBaat

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App. Filed.......
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Doc's Request.
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26th September 2021
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22-02-2022
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24-02-2022
I guess my dilemma is about the order:
1. Go to grad school in the US -> Chase GC -> Doesn't work out -> Canada PR -> Canada Passport -> TN -> Chase GC
2. Go to Canada with PR -> Canada Passport -> TN -> Grad school in the US -> Chase GC
3. Go to Canada with PR -> Cheaper grad school in Canada -> Canada Passport -> TN -> Chase GC

I can do grad school in Canada while I am a PR since it's cheaper.
Which one is better? I am ROW, not from India or China.
I guess (2) is a slow but sure path, but I am doing a roundabout way.
(1) is an uncertain path, in the end, it's also a roundabout way if I don't get GC or H1B.
H1B chances are ~10% this year.
Also, what are the benefits and drawbacks of US and Canada dual citizenship that I need to take note of?
Tax?
I always think of Masters in tech/core as Rod of Ages in League. Its an early(ish?) build item which helps you build more capabilities early and grow as you go. Meaning, do it early.

MBA is a situational thing. Sometimes doing it early makes a hell lot of sense: Finance comes to mind. Sometimes, its better to delay it and even do it as an exec MBA because you can get more worth out of it. Typically in strategy / general management types.

Always remember, do not build your life around immigration. Its just one rite of passage. A beaurocratic bullshit.

So plan to get (buy :) ) your degree (items) as per your career (build). Immigration should be your "pentakill" somewhere in the game. You need to do it once or twice because your situation demands. Also, outsource immigration to your employer. That keeps your life simpler.

I will say 1 is the most likely/easier scenario.

And now I need to stop watching replays of LoL and do some real work :)
 
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