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[navinball]

I agree the statistics is 90% or so of success, I should have been more specific what I mentioned earlier was hearsay from the colleagues and friends who were trying TN visa, they from GTA usually try at the Niagara borders. Those Asian folks who got repeatedly rejected said half of the applicants who attended with them succeed and other half fail. The failed ones often get blacklisted and keep failing forever so give up after 3-4 tries.
My personal experience during a business travel from Hamilton, ON to NY I was once stopped for secondary screening. The reason is I had left USA in 2008 at the peak of GCC, then I had been fired from my job with JP Morgan and was not able to find a new home. During this 2022 business visit now, I learnt I had been flagged as missing migrant possibly who became an illegal in 2008. Thankfully I carried old passports had paper i94 copies etc...But still I could see disdain in the eyes of the officer who questioned me. I waited for 3 hours. That border office is quite open and I could see many TN visa applicants, I felt 75% of approximately 30 applicants I saw that day were rejected, one officer was simply rejecting everyone who was going to him for interview, I saw 3-4 folks walk away with tears. Which is why I quoted race in one of my posts. Also weirdly some of the applicants could hardly speak English and I was wondering how did they manage CLB 6 in English, they are not Francophones either.

The requirements for TN are laid out clearly. If you show up with a degree not matching job requirements or an inadequate TN letter then it's a guaranteed rejection. Some just show up with just an offer letter thinking it's a right of passage and are promptly sent back.
I drafted the letter myself and had the CTO sign it.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

The requirements for TN are laid out clearly. If you show up with a degree not matching job requirements or an inadequate TN letter then it's a guaranteed rejection. Some just show up with just an offer letter thinking it's a right of passage and are promptly sent back.
I drafted the letter myself and had the CTO sign it.

Mr Sir. Navinball, we can only aspire to be 1/3 like you. Please share LinkedIn, we aspire to have TN letter signed by CTO of Panjab IT services as well. Please revert kindly

 

[navinball]

Mr Sir. Navinball, we can only aspire to be 1/3 like you. Please share LinkedIn, we aspire to have TN letter signed by CTO of Panjab IT services as well. Please revert kindly

Your rent is due buddy. I'm sick of calling you everyday and going to voicemail.

 

[Shravan_Kumar]

No draw again today?
If no draw today I don't think we'll have one tomorrow either... hope is fading once again.

I guess they already compensated for this by conducting consecutive draws 2 & 3 weeks back. Now that the cabinet shuffle is done let’s hope it resumes

 

[GandiBaat]

Would you know if it is the same in the USA too? barring UK not in Europe either. I based my opinion on some of the articles I have read in tech journals about the AI space not being inclusive yet. I shall share some of the link or atleast PDFs when I get time.

All of the FAANG companies are US based ones. My employer too.

Europe other than UK is honestly too small to matter in digital tech. There are a lot of "IT" opportunities in Europe but proper tech is small. Very small. I will say Australia has much more vibrant tech scene.

To be honest, no where in tech is inclusive in proper sense. It has never been and perhaps will never be. There are representation from everywhere but certain ethnicities and communities are highly over-represented. White (of all ethnic background), East Asians ( again all ethnic backgrounds) and Indians are over-represented. Males are virtually default sex and gender. Blacks, women and middle eastern folks are rare --with perhaps exception of Israelis. Native Americans and first nations are unicorns. It is united colors of benneton but it is not inclusive as in proportional representation. Major companies are not overtly racist but they are not going to cut their bottom line as well.

 

[GandiBaat]

I was extremely pleased today to see this incompetent moron fall from grace

All politicians are morons but he was malignant and had an anti-midas touch. Whatever he touched become shit.

 

[GandiBaat]

I agree the statistics is 90% or so of success, I should have been more specific what I mentioned earlier was hearsay from the colleagues and friends who were trying TN visa, they from GTA usually try at the Niagara borders. Those Asian folks who got repeatedly rejected said half of the applicants who attended with them succeed and other half fail. The failed ones often get blacklisted and keep failing forever so give up after 3-4 tries.
My personal experience during a business travel from Hamilton, ON to NY I was once stopped for secondary screening. The reason is I had left USA in 2008 at the peak of GCC, then I had been fired from my job with JP Morgan and was not able to find a new home. During this 2022 business visit now, I learnt I had been flagged as missing migrant possibly who became an illegal in 2008. Thankfully I carried old passports had paper i94 copies etc...But still I could see disdain in the eyes of the officer who questioned me. I waited for 3 hours. That border office is quite open and I could see many TN visa applicants, I felt 75% of approximately 30 applicants I saw that day were rejected, one officer was simply rejecting everyone who was going to him for interview, I saw 3-4 folks walk away with tears. Which is why I quoted race in one of my posts. Also weirdly some of the applicants could hardly speak English and I was wondering how did they manage CLB 6 in English, they are not Francophones either.

US Border services are not the most well funded part of American bureaucracy. Meaning fuck ups are common indeed. Like failure to register departure. Flagging a person incorrectly is another. A number of folks also suffer another issue of administrative refusal while flag polling. It remains (or does not remain?????) on your file and you have to remember it and mention it in any future application for application of visa. Freakazoid!

I have also heard about horror shows at borders or consulate. But I have seen the other side as well... The applicants. A lot of them are .... well... shall we say not the brightest bulbs. They.... mess up in the most royal ways. And then there is question of "repeat applicants". Once you are rejected, the person at the desk has only ONE question: What has changed since last time?? And there they fall flat on the face. You can go and see the student visa/visitor visa/L1 visa section of these kind of forums. Thats the one single question they always ask. So repeat applicants fail. Unless they radically change their application. I think TNs will not be any different. You have an employer that has been flagged? No one's mistake but you will get rejected. And unless you take another employer, there is not going to be any change no matter how think your docket is. The most frustrated and rude these visa officers go is when dealing with repeat applicants. I have heard of 10 time applicants. They think something will change without them addressing the core of the issue. It does not.

 

[Lord_Tony]

US Border services are not the most well funded part of American bureaucracy. Meaning fuck ups are common indeed. Like failure to register departure. Flagging a person incorrectly is another. A number of folks also suffer another issue of administrative refusal while flag polling. It remains (or does not remain?????) on your file and you have to remember it and mention it in any future application for application of visa. Freakazoid!

I have also heard about horror shows at borders or consulate. But I have seen the other side as well... The applicants. A lot of them are .... well... shall we say not the brightest bulbs. They.... mess up in the most royal ways. And then there is question of "repeat applicants". Once you are rejected, the person at the desk has only ONE question: What has changed since last time?? And there they fall flat on the face. You can go and see the student visa/visitor visa/L1 visa section of these kind of forums. Thats the one single question they always ask. So repeat applicants fail. Unless they radically change their application. I think TNs will not be any different. You have an employer that has been flagged? No one's mistake but you will get rejected. And unless you take another employer, there is not going to be any change no matter how think your docket is. The most frustrated and rude these visa officers go is when dealing with repeat applicants. I have heard of 10 time applicants. They think something will change without them addressing the core of the issue. It does not.

Back in 2008 USA immigration used to be pristine. Those days I have heard there was bias against Muslims/Arabs, but officers at the airports/borders treated at least the white collar workers (H1B,L1...) like us well. Nowadays I understand USA have a lot of issue on the southern border which clogs all their resources. And the hardline anti immigration rightwing uprise combined with extreme socialistic leftwing makes their immigration bad for everyone.

I agree with what you are saying on TN visa applicants, the quality of the crowd, Now I think back this was exactly what I saw at the border office too.

 

[ivicts]

It means, get the immigration done while persuing other goals. If you are laser focused on immigration, you will mess up a lot many other things. I know people who left perfectly great careers to re-boot from start or take up un-skilled jobs for immigration. My opinion is this is not necessary. Yet another group of folks live through separation from spouse for years to just hold on to their immigration dream. Build a career that takes you where you need to do. And whats the point of immigration if you are messing up your youth and your relationship and intimacy with your spouse?

Do remember, I am a bit biased because my job has been in tech domain and I come from a relatively safe developing country. There may be domains where career dead-end is the norm and immigration as a goal might make a bit more sense. Or there may be places where folks face existential threat. But I see them more as exceptions and not the rule.

I agree. There's a growing trend of lifestyle lovers who will fuck their entire lives up for immigration and do nothing meaningful in their lives. Almost all of these diploma mill graduates are a good example - no vision, no career, no motivation except for PR. That's a very bad way to plan you life.

I am not sure if I take unskilled jobs for immigration, but I am delaying my grad school or finding a partner for immigration. Not really sure if this is the best course of actions? I guess there is a trade off for everything..

 

[ivicts]

I always think of Masters in tech/core as Rod of Ages in League. Its an early(ish?) build item which helps you build more capabilities early and grow as you go. Meaning, do it early.

MBA is a situational thing. Sometimes doing it early makes a hell lot of sense: Finance comes to mind. Sometimes, its better to delay it and even do it as an exec MBA because you can get more worth out of it. Typically in strategy / general management types.

Always remember, do not build your life around immigration. Its just one rite of passage. A beaurocratic bullshit.

So plan to get (buy ) your degree (items) as per your career (build). Immigration should be your "pentakill" somewhere in the game. You need to do it once or twice because your situation demands. Also, outsource immigration to your employer. That keeps your life simpler.

I will say 1 is the most likely/easier scenario.

And now I need to stop watching replays of LoL and do some real work

I guess 1 is a high-risk high-gain path.. Will need some luck to get selected in the lottery.. unless someone wants to sponsor my GC during OPT, I guess the company-sponsored GC will also take 2 - 3 years after the initial process until I get the GC right?
Btw, for Canadian citizenship, I can go outside Canada after submitting the application right?

 

[Shadow09]

I guess 1 is a high-risk high-gain path.. Will need some luck to get selected in the lottery.. unless someone wants to sponsor my GC during OPT, I guess the company-sponsored GC will also take 2 - 3 years after the initial process until I get the GC right?
Btw, for Canadian citizenship, I can go outside Canada after submitting the application right?

More than 3 years easily. Especially if you are Indian.

 

[ivicts]

@ivicts just because you are not Chinese or Indian doesn't mean it's an easy path. You still need a company to file h1b and perm for you and get selected in lottery.

My situation was that it was during trump presidency and it was even more difficult than normal and DHS had made changes. Also, I'm a non tech (meaning non software or CS type role) so it's alot more challenging. I couldn't deal with the BS anymore and ended up doing ms in Canada. Could've done it in us for sure but risk was high. I can get away with explaining not being status once to family and friends but 2 times and I'm sure they'd think I'm a loser even though they wouldn't have the faintest idea of the process.

Most girls I know just marry US citizens or gc holders for status. The guys I know that are there are either a) CS degree or PhD professor route

Edit: 95% of jobs you apply to will screen you out due to this question: do you or will you in the future require sponsorship? If you answer yes you are basically screened out by system. If not, then a recruiter will def ask you and you have to answer yes then the process is basically over. If you are a new graduate with no work exp, this destroys you

I guess you can also marry US citizens or GC holders for your status then?
Maybe I should take a Phd then.. are you considering going back to the US after some time?
Seems like there are no success stories of someone getting a GC in this forum.. might just be because I am in the canadavisa forum hahaha. Or maybe someone has their success story?

 

[ImpatientDragon]

I guess you can also marry US citizens or GC holders for your status then?
Maybe I should take a Phd then.. are you considering going back to the US after some time?
Seems like there are no success stories of someone getting a GC in this forum.. might just be because I am in the canadavisa forum hahaha. Or maybe someone has their success story?

You should join USAvisaforum

 

[seadrag0n]

Hey guys, I have a noob question: Can we travel back to Canada if passport expiry is less than 6 months?

 

[navinball]

Hey guys, I have a noob question: Can we travel back to Canada if passport expiry is less than 6 months?

Yes