understanding GCMS notes

[yelena]

Family composition/status change after e-app is not a ground for rejection.The Same way CIC would not reject an applicant who got married after e-app.

I believe you are okay for now

the problem is that my situtation changed on the same date as my AOR, the same day I sent my eAPR - this is the date I gained full custudy of my son and I only found aout about it a month later when I finally got the court papers..

cic talks about before eAPR and after eAPR, but nowhere does it say about this situation

 

[yelena]

Genuinely sorry to hear this. FOSS stands for 'Field Operations Support System' which is an integrated database to share information between CIC and the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA). Just a question as your footer says that your case was re-opened on 16-09-2015. Is this the result from that re-opened case assessment?

More information regarding FOSS can be found here:

http://meurrensonimmigration.com/the-cbsa-databases-ices-foss-cpic-and-ncic/

yes , this is from my reopened application.

 

[Phil89]

I am posting my new notes here, for future reference..

other than the fact my point are far less than then round of invitations, everything is fine,. however .. CRS is one of the most important things sadly...

what does FOSS stand for?

Created date: 2015/11/14 09:57:37
Created by: EM 5578
Restricted NO
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa

Text:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx – EE FSW Lock in date 2015/08/03 Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the application, I have made the following recommendation: ANALYST RECOMMENDATION: Review Required A11.2: Review Required 76 (1)(a) SELECTION CRITERIA – FSW POINT: Appear met APPEARS TO MEET ADMISIBILITY CRITERIA PA has over three years of experience in NOC (1241) office administrator with xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. in Croatia.
PA has requested to change her family members to accompanying which has changed her CRS points. Outstanding: Processing dee for 2 children RPRF: Complete Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS point at invitation to apply (ITA): 455 CRS minimum score for round 451 Current CRS score: 397 FOSS: PA (xxxxxxxxxxx) : No Foss Details Spouse ( xxx,xxxxxx) : No Foss Details Child ( xxxx) : No Foss Details Child ( xxxxx) : No Foss Details MARITAL STATUS. Married since xxxx Marriage certificate declaration on file;. No previous marriages indicated. 2 children declared ARRANGED EMPLOYMENT OFFER : 0 Lock-In-Date: 2015/08/03 Primary Occupation: Noc 1241 Administrative Assistants 75. (2) FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS – Appears met 2010/10 to 2014/06 – Office Administrator (NOC 1241) – at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Submitted reference letter dated 2014/06/16 confirms applicant’s employment in declared occupation throughout specified period, and describes duties which are consistent with the leas statement and main duties as set out in the selected NOC category.. Reference letter confirms full-time employment;
3 years and 8 months of full time work experience have been accumulated. EDUCATION: 22 points. Assessed at the CIO. LANGUAGE: 24 points. Assessed at CIO. SECOND LANGUAGE P points ADAPTABILITY: 0 points Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) Language: 24 2nd Language: 0 Education: 22, Work Experience: 11 Arranged Employment: 0 Adaptability: 0 Age 12 (32 y/o) FSW points 69 SETTLEMENT FUNDS. Approx CAD xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. As per xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Bank statement as at 205/07/24; Family of 4 required CAD 22,170. ADMISSIBILITY Based on information provided of personal history in the last 10 years: No apparent concerns. Applicant: Additional Family Info verified. Travel History verified;. No positions with a foreign government indicated;. Statutory questions on file. Answered No to all questions Spouse:. Additional Family Info verified;. Travel History verified;. No position with a foreign government indicated;. Statutory questions verified, answered No to all questions. CRIMINALITY: Applicant:. All police certificated on file, none show adverse information. Croatia dated 2015/07/27 MEDS All application have valid meds PASSPORTS(S) All applicant have valid ppts PA is Croatian citizen Counterfoil is not required

Why did you think that you would be assessed as a single applicant when you had an accompanying spouse? I don't understand... Adding your spouse along the road will surely reduce your points.

 

[yelena]

Why did you think that you would be assessed as a single applicant when you had an accompanying spouse? I don't understand... Adding your spouse along the road will surely reduce your points.

I didnt have accompanying spouse or children., I added them after.. one of our children did not have legal documents that would allow me to take him with us., so we decided I would go alone, and they would joint me at some point. No one new this would happen.. the legal custudy thing was going on for years before ...

I did writte all of that in my LOE and I did state that if I get PR I will use what ever means available to me, to get them to canada once I have all the legal requirement.

I was absolutely hones, backed everything with tons of paper work to prove this ongoing porcess and notified cic as soon as I learned about this new issue..

 

[yelena]

There is one more note, after the one I've written before,
created: 2015/11/17

PA has provided court docs regarding custudy of the older child. Given the fact she has the custudy for xxxxxxxx, she would like to include all familly members in the application.

 

[Gabbana]

I got this somewhere:

Field Operations Support System (FOSS)
Description: The FOSS database is a central repository of information on all persons who have been, may be or are wanted to be seen by Immigration staff. FOSS is the main operational support system for immigration operations in Canada. The system is comprised of numerous components including query functions, status entry, document creation, refugee monitoring, case processing support, medical profiles, registry functions, client name and address, statistical functions, airport primary inspection line functions, access and security, appeals and litigation, quality assurance and records maintenance. FOSS also provides query capabilities for lost, stolen and fraudulent documents. All Immigration staff that work with the public and the staff that support these officers use FOSS.

 

[ibejiopad]

the problem is that my situtation changed on the same date as my AOR, the same day I sent my eAPR - this is the date I gained full custudy of my son and I only found aout about it a month later when I finally got the court papers..

cic talks about before eAPR and after eAPR, but nowhere does it say about this situation

So technically, your status changed after e-app; I.e you applied before status change. As at when you applied, you had the points.

If I were so that worried, I would send an CSE detailing the fact that though, your status change became effective on your AOR date, but you never got the court papers until much later. Attach supporting documents; e.g court papers showing effective date, evidence to prove that the papers were not sent electronically to you, etc

 

[hotshot007]

I didnt have accompanying spouse or children., I added them after.. one of our children did not have legal documents that would allow me to take him with us., so we decided I would go alone, and they would joint me at some point. No one new this would happen.. the legal custudy thing was going on for years before ...

I did writte all of that in my LOE and I did state that if I get PR I will use what ever means available to me, to get them to canada once I have all the legal requirement.

I was absolutely hones, backed everything with tons of paper work to prove this ongoing porcess and notified cic as soon as I learned about this new issue..

Do you know how they are calculating the 397 score? Overall difference due to accompanying spouse should only be 25 points so your updated score should be in the 420's. Do you know where you are losing the other 25 points or so?

 

[yelena]

So technically, your status changed after e-app; I.e you applied before status change. As at when you applied, you had the points.

If I were so that worried, I would send an CSE detailing the fact that though, your status change became effective on your AOR date, but you never got the court papers until much later. Attach supporting documents; e.g court papers showing effective date, evidence to prove that the papers were not sent electronically to you, etc

I think I have all of that covered.. in all of my correspondance I made sure to state everything and back it up with evidence, I stated and proved that the court papers were released from the high court to the muncipal court about 10 days after my AOR, and Municipal court released them to me even later on..

I think I used all of my work related and professional experiance here ( I work in a law office ) to back my claims.. There is a 50/50 chance, and seeing this, makes me think they are going to go the safer way and reject my application .

@hotrshot007
I think my loss of points is due to the fact they are only calculatng the 3 years 8 months of experiance, and I have more than 6 in total.

 

[ibejiopad]

Do you know how they are calculating the 397 score? Overall difference due to accompanying spouse should only be 25 points so your updated score should be in the 420's. Do you know where you are losing the other 25 points or so?

Hmmm, valid question.

@ yelena, you can only earn points for 3 years of foreign experience.

 

[yelena]

Hmmm, valid question.

@ yelena, you can only earn points for 3 years of foreign experience.

I would have to look everything up and compare., they wrote some point in the notes but honestly I didnt analize that part som much., but with my spouse we have approximately 422 or 429, I don't remember now.

This is why everything is so odd.. they didnt take into account all of my employment and they are obviously calcualting something differently.

I wish more of you posted their notes here., both people who got their pr, and ones that were rejected...

 

[Phil89]

I didnt have accompanying spouse or children., I added them after.. one of our children did not have legal documents that would allow me to take him with us., so we decided I would go alone, and they would joint me at some point. No one new this would happen.. the legal custudy thing was going on for years before ...

I did writte all of that in my LOE and I did state that if I get PR I will use what ever means available to me, to get them to canada once I have all the legal requirement.

I was absolutely hones, backed everything with tons of paper work to prove this ongoing porcess and notified cic as soon as I learned about this new issue..

Well really I don't think it matters. You had a non accompanying spouse at the time of your AOR, and then you changed it to accompanying. Whatever the reason is, they will recalculate your points. I hope i am mistaken, and you will get a positive decision but those are my thoughts.

 

[sharma1990]

I would have to look everything up and compare., they wrote some point in the notes but honestly I didnt analize that part som much., but with my spouse we have approximately 422 or 429, I don't remember now.

This is why everything is so odd.. they didnt take into account all of my employment and they are obviously calcualting something differently.

I wish more of you posted their notes here., both people who got their pr, and ones that were rejected...

Just dont loose hope yelna ... If they took so much time alredy like almost 5 months means they are not in mood to give u a refusal and they made that node like more than a month ago so dont worry

 

[miki0125]

Hi

Just received my second GCMS notes three days ago, here are some updates shown as following:

My First GCMS notes showed: Review Type: Support Service Agent
The second one is *** Agent Review*** Police Certificates R10 OK All police certificates on application; following PC's NRT China. EDUCATION DOCUMENTS Canadian educational credential on file; credential reviewed; Canadian institution recognized; Credential is consistent with level of education claimed by PA under EE Eligibility. SPOUSE'S EDUCATION Canadian educational credential on file; credential reviewed; canadian institution recognized; credential is consistent with level of education claimed by SP under EE Eligibility. AGE Applicant's age reviewed and no change from ITA to e-APR.

There is a weird part under Application section, they added two applications:
Application: 1
Field Name: Secondary Office
Action: Removed
Old Value: CPC Ottawa
Updated: 2015/11/10
Office: Centralized Intake Office

Application: 2
Action: Added
Old Value:
New Value: Centralized Intake Office
Updated date: 2015/11/10
Office: Centralized Intake Office

I don't understand why application 1 action is removed? What does it mean?

Except changes above, they also added two paper file transfer history.

It has been two and half months, still no background check. Cry Cry Cry In the notes, eligibility, criminality, security --- not started. Is it Normal?

Thanks for your help !!!

 

[ibejiopad]

Well really I don't think it matters. You had a non accompanying spouse at the time of your AOR, and then you changed it to accompanying. Whatever the reason is, they will recalculate your points. I hope i am mistaken, and you will get a positive decision but those are my thoughts.

My thought exactly!!!! My little concern lies with ---why her CRS point nose-dived to 397 and not 420+