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Thread for outland Buffalo applicants!

amaranth

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Oct 31, 2009
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17.12.2010
AOR Received.
31.3.2011
File Transfer...
18.1.2010
Med's Done....
30.11.2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
25.10.2011
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10.11.2011
LANDED..........
17.11.2011
So, the initial assessment letter I got the other day is only asking for the RPRF, which we paid at the very beginning. (Still curious about the letter itself, as it seems most people aren't getting the actual paper letter anymore...) What's the best way to notify Mississauga that I already paid? I'm assuming fax or email (or both) would be most efficient, but I haven't found the right contact info yet... Also, I know I need to send them a copy of my receipt, should I scan both sides, or would the front of the receipt be enough?

These might be stupid questions, but I'm tired, haha. ::)
 

ddobro2

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May 4, 2011
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If you didn't send in the receipt originally, then that explains why Buffalo's asking for it (they had no idea you paid without that sheet linking you to the payment). I don't think email would work. I know someone her has faxed the RPRF receipt before (clemfamily). I personally sent it to that "other PR applications and RPRF payments" mailing address to CPC-M that I believe someone posted earlier today (unless I'm thinking of another thread). You paid online, right? I'm not sure I understand the bit about the "other side" of the receipt.....
amaranth said:
So, the initial assessment letter I got the other day is only asking for the RPRF, which we paid at the very beginning. (Still curious about the letter itself, as it seems most people aren't getting the actual paper letter anymore...) What's the best way to notify Mississauga that I already paid? I'm assuming fax or email (or both) would be most efficient, but I haven't found the right contact info yet... Also, I know I need to send them a copy of my receipt, should I scan both sides, or would the front of the receipt be enough?

These might be stupid questions, but I'm tired, haha. ::)
 

amaranth

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Oct 31, 2009
333
11
Toronto & Buffalo
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17.12.2010
AOR Received.
31.3.2011
File Transfer...
18.1.2010
Med's Done....
30.11.2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
25.10.2011
VISA ISSUED...
10.11.2011
LANDED..........
17.11.2011
ddobro2 said:
If you didn't send in the receipt originally, then that explains why Buffalo's asking for it (they had no idea you paid without that sheet linking you to the payment). I don't think email would work. I know someone her has faxed the RPRF receipt before (clemfamily). I personally sent it to that "other PR applications and RPRF payments" mailing address to CPC-M that I believe someone posted earlier today (unless I'm thinking of another thread). You paid online, right? I'm not sure I understand the bit about the "other side" of the receipt.....
The original definitely went with the application (part of the checklist!). I don't think they ever would have started processing anything without it!

We paid at a "designated financial institution" (aka plain old bank), and the receipt we got had 2 parts. Part 1 goes with the app, part 2 is for my records. Just looking for the best way to notify we did indeed pay. I know other people have had to do this, I just haven't found the info yet. Looking now though!
 

amaranth

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Oct 31, 2009
333
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Toronto & Buffalo
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17.12.2010
AOR Received.
31.3.2011
File Transfer...
18.1.2010
Med's Done....
30.11.2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
25.10.2011
VISA ISSUED...
10.11.2011
LANDED..........
17.11.2011
ddobro2 said:
Just got my nth phantom e-cas tracker update.
I've had 11 updates in the last 48-ish hours telling me my medical results have been received. Yay technology!
 

ddobro2

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Oh, the original receipt for the RPRF? Because they'll process as long as the have the first two - sponsor and principal applicant fees. But if you sent all three originally, I don't know what happened. I guess they ignored it or something ::) Don't know about the receipts from banks. My inclination would be to say - photocopy the second side too just to be safe.
amaranth said:
The original definitely went with the application (part of the checklist!). I don't think they ever would have started processing anything without it!

We paid at a "designated financial institution" (aka plain old bank), and the receipt we got had 2 parts. Part 1 goes with the app, part 2 is for my records. Just looking for the best way to notify we did indeed pay. I know other people have had to do this, I just haven't found the info yet. Looking now though!
 

amaranth

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Oct 31, 2009
333
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Toronto & Buffalo
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17.12.2010
AOR Received.
31.3.2011
File Transfer...
18.1.2010
Med's Done....
30.11.2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
25.10.2011
VISA ISSUED...
10.11.2011
LANDED..........
17.11.2011
ddobro2 said:
Oh, the original receipt for the RPRF? Because they'll process as long as the have the first two - sponsor and principal applicant fees. But if you sent all three originally, I don't know what happened. I guess they ignored it or something ::) Don't know about the receipts from banks. My inclination would be to say - photocopy the second side too just to be safe.
I know others have received the IA letter asking for RPRF and had already paid everything, so it might just be a case of it being a standard form letter, but I want to cover all bases anyway. And looking at the letter, there is a fax number and email addy at the very bottom of the page along with the mailing address... I could probably just send it to one (or all!) of those... Derp. :-[

Sooo not fully awake yet, and probably not making much sense. If you want to update the spreadsheet, the date on the IA letter is Sept. 16.
 

mjh49783aa

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Sep 22, 2011
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Ontario, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo, USA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-05-2011
Nomination.....
Sponsor approved: 13-06-2011
AOR Received.
03-11-2011
File Transfer...
28-06-2011
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
04-01-2012
VISA ISSUED...
COPR received 13-01-2012
LANDED..........
15-01-2012
Yeah, after following a couple of immigration forums, along with conversing with an agent with CIC, my wife and I pretty much figured out that it was a good idea to ask for a visitor record, once we had the fees paid, and everything ready to go - and with proof to show the border agent. All my wife and I did was simply go into the States for Taco Bell, and then after that, we turned around and headed back to Canada via the Sault Ste. Marie port of entry - and we told them our situation. The process actually went easier than we thought it would be.

Now, I'm about halfway through my visitor record, and I'm probably going to apply for an extension next month. From what the wait times said on the CIC website, I can get an extension approved within 90 days if I apply online, where it's almost 180 days if I do it by mail. But yeah, if I didn't get the visitor record when I did, I wouldn't have known how to get one after the fact.

As for the US Border Agents, I find them to be a real pain in the butt sometimes. They definitely question us harder now that they know we're married, but once I explain to them that I've applied for my Canadian PR, I guess that satisfies them and they let us through at that point. But no, they pretty much give no one the benefit of the doubt anymore - even though my wife has no desire to immigrate to the States.

Bargeld said:
About visitor record... I just recently got mine after staying 5.5 months in Canada as a visitor with PR in process (file is currently in Buffalo following sponsorship approval a few months back), going to Fort Erie Peace Bridge entry (circled around before getting to the bridge to the U.S. heading outward on QEW), for 12 additional months, expiring mid September 2012.

One small paragraph background as to why I went to Peace Bridge. I did this after initially intending to file inland for a visitor extension but I lacked the proof of a passport stamp and at the border they would not give such proof unless I knew to ask at my first entry (they told me they don't stamp U.S. passports that often, and indeed mine was not stamped), the lack of such evidence would have been a denial of visitor extension lacking one of the fundamental pieces required for that application which is a passport stamp or equivalent showing official date of entry. So I talked to an officer on the phone, told him my situation, asked what he would recommend. He told me if I presented him with everything I told him I had, he would easily give me a 12 month visitor record and told me to reference his name and the date/time I talked to him. True enough, when I referenced him when inside at the border, he happened to be working (made sure to go around the same time I called previously), was brought inside, and suggested to a coworker who was doing the paper/computer work for a 12 month visitor record.

Now, as for the visitor record, I was informed that for a visitor record people are looked at with more scrutiny, at least, to get the visitor record itself, because, as I was told by two officers in the building, it allows re-entry with few to no questions asked after I mentioned the issue of if I would have to go through this same process again if I were to fly to Georgia to visit my dying great grandmother that I haven't seen in two decades nearly, when re-entering Canada. I was also informed that they don't hand out visitor records to people, say, visiting their boyfriends/girlfriends/friends, or just for leisure. They outright said we were given a visitor record so readily because we had a PR in process, I followed the rules, and showed proof of support to stay for that length, though they visibly looked at the sponsorship approval letter pretty much exclusively and not the guarantor's letter+receipts of money transfers from parents abroad, and my wife was there with me, visibly 9 months pregnant, to which they repeatedly pointed out that they aren't in the business of breaking up families.

Dealing with them was far easier and far more reasonable than my own border patrol in the U.S. In contrast, helping a friend out with his sponsoring of a foreign wife to the U.S., if someone intends to sponsor a spouse or fiance(e) to the U.S., and their version of an "outland" PR app that would allow permanent re-entry, while the app is in process, if the sponsored person (i.e. applicant) tries to enter with it in process it's almost always an instant denial as they (DHS/DOS) think of it as an intent to live in the states. Completely different logic between neighbouring countries.
 

shelleydalyce

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Oct 19, 2009
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Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
February 1, 2011
AOR Received.
July 11, 2011 after an email and some prodding
File Transfer...
March 10, 2011
Med's Done....
November 30, 2010
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
September 6, 2011
VISA ISSUED...
September 13, 2011
LANDED..........
September 13, 2011
The easiest way we found, that is if the border isn't too far for you, is to just do exactly what you did to get the first visitor record if your application isn't already done. It costs nothing but your gas and time if you're close enough. We only live about an hour away from Michigan, and went through a 1 month (while I was still working in the states and only coming over on days off) ,a 3 month, then a 6 month visitor record while we were waiting. It beats filling out an application and giving CIC 75 more dollars on top of what all you've already given them. The lady at CBSA that gave me the 6 month one even said I'd have no problem getting another one after that but my application should by all means be done by then. I got PPR about 2 weeks before it ran out.


mjh49783aa said:
Yeah, after following a couple of immigration forums, along with conversing with an agent with CIC, my wife and I pretty much figured out that it was a good idea to ask for a visitor record, once we had the fees paid, and everything ready to go - and with proof to show the border agent. All my wife and I did was simply go into the States for Taco Bell, and then after that, we turned around and headed back to Canada via the Sault Ste. Marie port of entry - and we told them our situation. The process actually went easier than we thought it would be.

Now, I'm about halfway through my visitor record, and I'm probably going to apply for an extension next month. From what the wait times said on the CIC website, I can get an extension approved within 90 days if I apply online, where it's almost 180 days if I do it by mail. But yeah, if I didn't get the visitor record when I did, I wouldn't have known how to get one after the fact.

As for the US Border Agents, I find them to be a real pain in the butt sometimes. They definitely question us harder now that they know we're married, but once I explain to them that I've applied for my Canadian PR, I guess that satisfies them and they let us through at that point. But no, they pretty much give no one the benefit of the doubt anymore - even though my wife has no desire to immigrate to the States.
 

Bargeld

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Sep 17, 2011
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Visa Office......
Buffalo
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-05-2011
AOR Received.
14-07-2011
File Transfer...
05-07-2011
Passport Req..
06-10-2011
VISA ISSUED...
20-10-2011
LANDED..........
20-10-2011
ddobro2 said:
Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Even if the person is Canadian and shows significant proof of ties to Canada?
They can attempt to prove their ties but in most cases it's denial. If there's any wonder why so many circumvent the process and filed AOS it's because those who do things proper still get crap for it.

mjh49783aa said:
Yeah, after following a couple of immigration forums, along with conversing with an agent with CIC, my wife and I pretty much figured out that it was a good idea to ask for a visitor record, once we had the fees paid, and everything ready to go - and with proof to show the border agent. All my wife and I did was simply go into the States for Taco Bell, and then after that, we turned around and headed back to Canada via the Sault Ste. Marie port of entry - and we told them our situation. The process actually went easier than we thought it would be.

Now, I'm about halfway through my visitor record, and I'm probably going to apply for an extension next month. From what the wait times said on the CIC website, I can get an extension approved within 90 days if I apply online, where it's almost 180 days if I do it by mail. But yeah, if I didn't get the visitor record when I did, I wouldn't have known how to get one after the fact.

As for the US Border Agents, I find them to be a real pain in the butt sometimes. They definitely question us harder now that they know we're married, but once I explain to them that I've applied for my Canadian PR, I guess that satisfies them and they let us through at that point. But no, they pretty much give no one the benefit of the doubt anymore - even though my wife has no desire to immigrate to the States.
Yep, my wife (Canadian citizen) was held up for 3 hours and was left crying afterwords because of how they tried to accuse her of trying to immigrate to the U.S. when she visited when in fact it was the opposite and we planned on me moving to Canada.

As for applying visitor there's implied status, initially before going to the border when realizing I was missing an essential piece to the extension, we were gonna do a mail/paper application because of the longer processing time and, obviously, longer implied status in case they wanted to be jerks and for one reason or another deny an extension. Not an issue now.
 

mjh49783aa

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Sep 22, 2011
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Ontario, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo, USA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-05-2011
Nomination.....
Sponsor approved: 13-06-2011
AOR Received.
03-11-2011
File Transfer...
28-06-2011
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
04-01-2012
VISA ISSUED...
COPR received 13-01-2012
LANDED..........
15-01-2012
That's a very good idea! I think I should try that. As for how far we are from the border, well, from our respective residences, we can literally see each other's countries. We're only separated from each other by about 5 or 6 miles altogether.

shelleydalyce said:
The easiest way we found, that is if the border isn't too far for you, is to just do exactly what you did to get the first visitor record if your application isn't already done. It costs nothing but your gas and time if you're close enough. We only live about an hour away from Michigan, and went through a 1 month (while I was still working in the states and only coming over on days off) ,a 3 month, then a 6 month visitor record while we were waiting. It beats filling out an application and giving CIC 75 more dollars on top of what all you've already given them. The lady at CBSA that gave me the 6 month one even said I'd have no problem getting another one after that but my application should by all means be done by then. I got PPR about 2 weeks before it ran out.
 

francohoosier

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Jun 25, 2011
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Montréal
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Visa Office......
Buffalo/New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-02-2011
AOR Received.
13-07-2011
File Transfer...
10-03-2011
Med's Done....
21-01-2011
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
4-10-2011
VISA ISSUED...
14-10-2011
LANDED..........
12-11-2011
Calgary-Bound said:
Congrats francohoosier.Your comeing from Indy wright.Im comeing out of St.Louis.
Thanks! And yep, it's a small world :p
 

mjh49783aa

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Sep 22, 2011
285
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Ontario, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo, USA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-05-2011
Nomination.....
Sponsor approved: 13-06-2011
AOR Received.
03-11-2011
File Transfer...
28-06-2011
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
04-01-2012
VISA ISSUED...
COPR received 13-01-2012
LANDED..........
15-01-2012
It might be a real good idea to show the CBP agent your Canadian visitor record if it states that you've applied for a Canadian PR. I've showed it to them pretty much every time I've crossed into Michigan with my wife - including the one time I had to drive her through Michigan to Windsor to visit her mother, and again while going back to the Soo through Michigan. It's almost guaranteed in my experience that they'll look at it real carefully and read what it says before they let us pass. But ultimately, they do let us pass. But with that being said, if they still want to be jerks and tell her to go back, then there's not much you, (or I in my case) can really do.

Bargeld said:
Yep, my wife (Canadian citizen) was held up for 3 hours and was left crying afterwords because of how they tried to accuse her of trying to immigrate to the U.S. when she visited when in fact it was the opposite and we planned on me moving to Canada.

As for applying visitor there's implied status, initially before going to the border when realizing I was missing an essential piece to the extension, we were gonna do a mail/paper application because of the longer processing time and, obviously, longer implied status in case they wanted to be jerks and for one reason or another deny an extension. Not an issue now.
 

shelleydalyce

Star Member
Oct 19, 2009
83
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
February 1, 2011
AOR Received.
July 11, 2011 after an email and some prodding
File Transfer...
March 10, 2011
Med's Done....
November 30, 2010
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
September 6, 2011
VISA ISSUED...
September 13, 2011
LANDED..........
September 13, 2011
I've had good and bad experiences crossing both ways, and at various crossings. The only time I really had problems with the Americans since starting the PR process was when the Canadians "refused" me entry. Buddy just wanted to see a couple of my American pay stubs and I had to run home (5 min from border) and grab some for him to see and come right back. The Americans didn't give me any grief when I went to get the pay stubs but they pulled us in and REALLY gave us a hard time when I tried to go back home from Canada 2-3 days later. One time I had a guy (American) at the border ask me why in the world I would want to move to Canada. It took all I had to not to bust my guts laughing, because despite being American I have come to hate a lot of things about that country even if my wife hadn't come along.

I've came into the states from Canada and Mexico by myself more times than I can count. (I am an American citizen) and have had them wave me through with a car load of stuff or pull me in and give the third degree with me literally carrying nothing. Same goes for the Canadians. I think it's just a real crap shoot depending on who you get, and whether they're on hour one or hour ten of their shift, although I've not had a problem from either side since getting PR.