the medical from hell

[Alurra71]

While I understand the OP's fear about this, I can not encourage her to hold off on reporting this crime to someone other than this forum and her husband. It would now fall into the category that if my daughter has to go for a medical exam and gets this particular doctor because folks are more worried about uncessarily jeopardizing their PR. How are you going to sit back and think it's ok to wait for my PR FIRST. These CHILDREN and WOMEN are in DANGER from this man!

I am sorry you went through this as I would be for anyone exposed to this kind of crime, however you are allowing other women and children to continue being exposed to this pervert and gaining more victims.

@Wowsers: I guess since you no longer have to deal with immigration medicals it doesn't matter to you if more victims pile up behind this one then?

And a quick breast exam was also part of my immigration medical, however it was not an inappropriate duration or contact.

 

[HoneyEllis]

This is absolutely terrible, thank you for being so brave as to post about it here.
In addition to what previous posters have said, I really think the Dr. should be reported to the appropriate medical association. That way, if you don't choose to pursue a criminal complaint or should the police (for whatever reason) not proceed with criminal charges the Dr. can still be investigated by the medical association (who, i understand, would have the authority to revoke the Dr.s licence to practice medicine.
Again, thanks for being so brave as to post about your horrific experience, hopefully you can spare others from having to experience it as well

 

[screech339]

You're indulging nonsense. This kind of man should be behind the bars immediately if this is true. This doesn't have anything to do with your immigration process. His medical license should be revoked right away. You need to mention the name of the clinic so the others will not be victims. I am a man sponsoring my spouse.

Please do cover what is uncoverable.

Thanks,

POLICAP

POLICAP, where are you getting this crap about me indulging nonsense. What he did is sexual assault. When my wife went to OBGYN, they have a policy to have a female nurse in the examination room, whether I am there or not. This is to protect both the patient and the doctor. The patient cannot falsely accuse the doctor nor can the doctor abuse the patient.

Screech339

 

[waitingonforever]

Actually it is LAW that a nurse be in the room while a examination is being done...The probable reason for this horrible act is...the doctor KNOWS that people are not going to try put they're PR in harms way and report him...thats his ticket to commit this horrible act...you need to report him...put a bug in CIC ear...dont mention your name or anything like that...they will investigate this and take further action...sad to say...he has probably been doing it for years thinking ...no one is going to report me!!! Please report him anonymously before he gets a chance to do this again!!!!

 

[Line.a]

I'd definitely report him to the police. That is just bizarre!!

 

[sammystorm19]

Medicals are done electronically now so by the time you report him your medical would be sent off already

I would report him ASAP and not wait. This is a case of sexual abuse. Waiting to report him shouldn't happen. He needs to understand that he can't be doing this to others. You my not be the only person this has happened too. If it was me...and this is my opinion only...I would be on the phone with the police and also CIC ratting this dirt bag out and I wouldn't stop until someone listened to me

Please let us know what you have decided to do

Remember. Don't let this rat b a s t a r d get away with it

 

[cdnmom]

Agreed... this doctor needs to be reported
He is taking advantage of his position of authority
I believe if CIC knew this was happening they would remove him from the list of panel physicians...
Who knows how many others have endured this horror and are afraid to report him because they are worried about receiving their PR
Rot in Hell you sick man

 

[doctors]

THe Dr will be reported. Until I do that....I want you to be careful. Never let your self be exam alone with the doctor. That way you will be safe.

As soon as I have reported him, I will let you all know whom this doctor is.

I will not risk getting into a situation where it will be his word against mine..........not as long as Im not safe having a PR. What would happen if they chose to believe him......and see me as a liar.....in the end of my husbands and mine process. Its scary enough fighting for being allowed to stay together in this loooooong process with CIC.


And anything like this ever happened to you, please contact me. Maybe Im not the first one.

Take care and ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN THE EXAM ROOM. You will be safe then.

 

[sounion]

THe Dr will be reported. Until I do that....I want you to be careful. Never let your self be exam alone with the doctor. That way you will be safe.

As soon as I have reported him, I will let you all know whom this doctor is.

I will not risk getting into a situation where it will be his word against mine..........not as long as Im not safe having a PR. What would happen if they chose to believe him......and see me as a liar.....in the end of my husbands and mine process. Its scary enough fighting for being allowed to stay together in this loooooong process with CIC.


And anything like this ever happened to you, please contact me. Maybe Im not the first one.

Take care and ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN THE EXAM ROOM. You will be safe then.

Just so you know, when it comes to medicals, CIC could care less if you are a liar. Of course, I don't think reporting him risks your application at all. But I think I am beating a dead horse saying that. I still support you in your grief, please don't think that I don't feel for you or are upset, even though I think you should report him. Take care

 

[Alurra71]

Maybe not the first but not turning him in sooner rather than later I can assure you, you won't be the last.

While I sympathize with what he did to you I personally would never be able to look myself in the face again knowing I put others at risk willfully. Yes, it is willfully. Nobody knows who you are and yet you even refuse to name him here to at least give this group a chance to stay safe from him.

So many ways to turn this bastard in anonymously and you would rather wait. My faith in my fellow humans waivers a bit more when we would intentionally risk someone's health for personal gain.

I apologize if I sound harsh but I feel quite strongly about this.

This feels akin to someone saying I know who killed all those people but he owes me 50 bucks, so I'll tell you who he is after he pays me back. Just don't go outside alone and you'll be fine.

 

[NicAnn]

This feels akin to someone saying I know who killed all those people but he owes me 50 bucks, so I'll tell you who he is after he pays me back. Just don't go outside alone and you'll be fine.

Oooo good analogy!

 

[jomz]

I apologize if I sound harsh but I feel quite strongly about this.

Don't apologize, you are completely right. I just don't see how someone won't report a crime like this or at least name the Dr. anonymously on a forum knowing that even kids get medicals, and because the parents are immigrants too, they too may be fearful and will do what the doctor tells them...so if the dr says "i need to examine your 6 year old daughter alone" the parents will say ok because they don't know it is not right or because they want to follow "CIC procedure" as to them the dr. is a person of authority working under the direction of CIC.

 

[Catou]

I'm sorry, I don't agree with reporting him anonymously. An anonymous tip-off is just that - a tip-off that cannot lead to an arrest unless others give statements to the Police. The doctor's actions have nothing more to do with immigration than the fact he is using immigration medicals as an excuse for offending.

I am so very sorry for the OP and really feel for her pain. However, this doctor needs to be stopped and delaying making a complaint won't help credibility nor will it stop him from subjecting others to the same horrible experience. I understand her worries about PR but feel that if she cannot bring herself to lay a complaint with the Police then the very least she could do is to call CIC (she doesn't need to give her name to get advice) and explain what happened and how concerned she is about whether reporting it would affect her PR. I think you will find that CIC officers would be very understanding and as upset that this has happened as we all are. Call CIC and say you have a serious issue you wish to discuss with someone, and take it from there.

If the OP really won't talk to CIC or the Police, please call a victim support organisation. There is a list of links here: http://crcvc.ca/links/#supportWomen They can act as an intermediary, give advice, and follow-up as needed.

These doctors are in a position of trust. For all we know this one may have been doing things like this for years, and will continue doing so unless people are brave enough to step forward. Preying on people that are vulnerable is not acceptable. We want to be permanent residents of Canada and this means we have a duty to be good residents - to me, this includes reporting illegal behaviour.

 

[doctors]

It's been one day guys. I'm still in chock. I regret I ever said anything here :'( Don't you get that my husband and I have to figure this out, and make what's best for all To find a way.


I am so very grateful for all of you sending such helpful pm's. Thank you so very much for all the help you given us in private.

Since I regret ever being this open about what happened to me in this forum. I will leave this thread now. I have got more then enough help and tips through pm now, how to deal with this the smartest and best way for all. So no more information will be written in this thread now

 

[automaton82]

If this post is true, it's a really terrible thing, and I really hope they report him. It's completely unacceptable, and I'm glad everyone is rallying in support!

However..... the new user, and the unwillingness to report the doctor (even anonymously) after arduous proof that they will not get into any trouble from the CIC, and their PR app will definitely not be at risk, makes me a little.. skeptical. It is possible this thread is the result of an attention-seeking or simply bored troll. I have seen this sort of behavior fairly often on various forums I read, although in different situations.

Anyways, all the advice given here is accurate and true and very good, and I sort of hope this is a troll, because if it isn't and the situation really happened, it's very very terrible. I just wish they would post the doctor information, because as everyone else here has pointed out, it's irresponsible to let this continue to happen to others. Something to think about.