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[Surbhigurpreet]

Hello legal falcon.
Is it mandatory for EE-PNP applicant to send schedule 4 or is it only for paper based applications.
I have sent my nomination certificate but nor schedule 4.
Secondly i received my aor on 14th. Since then there is no change in my bg. It is showing not needed at this time. Does This delay means that there are chances that something is wrong with my application or my result would be delayed. The applicants of similar date has either recieved additional doc request or their status is in progress. Neither has happened with my case. That is y it is important for me to understand the role of schedule 4.
If it is not asked from EE applicants than may be i am cool to go.

 

[eqrkim]

IRCC is always flexible in accommodating reasonable requests and pre-planned travels fall under that. Just send an email to IRCC and you will most like get the extension. I have seen cases where people have got extensions for pre-planned travels. Just make sure you write an email and explain everything. They mostly allow because at this stage the application is approved and only the logistics of granting the visa is remaining.

Thank you so much! That is exactly what I was hoping to know!
I booked a flight a month after AOR, hopefully they consider it as a pre-planned vacation

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I tried it and it says "Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 168 hours."

 

[epressentry]

Its very simple and you should not complicate things. If you are in permanent employment of a company that allows you 30 days of paid leave a year, you will count your work ex as 1 year and not 11 months, if your vacation was paid. This is the interpretation I would give.

This is based on the following:

As per CIC, Full-time” means at least 30 hours of paid work in one week. One year of full-time work is at least 1560 hours. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=664&top=29

If you calculate 1560 hours and put them to weeks and months, you would have worked way more. This is why in your employment reference letter you put the number off weeks you have worked. An average work week for an salaried employee is usually ~50 hours. So you are doing way more than 1560 hours in a year. In this scenario when you get your reference letter, it does not mention your vacation time, but your period of employment and how long you work in a week. So yes, you can add your vacation time to your work experience.

To be eligible for the CEC, CIC states <http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp>

There is no requirement for the education be be in the same category of your job.

Hope this helps!

Makes sense!

How would you interpret this?

An allowance for a reasonable period of vacation time will generally be made in calculating the period of qualifying work experience (e.g., a two-week period of paid vacation leave within a given 52-week period in which the applicant was engaged in qualifying work experience). An allowance for normal vacation time during a period of qualifying work experience cannot be used as a substitute or proxy for meeting the in-Canada element of the work experience requirement (i.e., work experience obtained outside Canada will not be considered as though the applicant had been on a period of vacation in order to be counted as part of the period of in-Canada work experience). While officers will account for a reasonable period of vacation time in calculating the period of qualifying work experience in Canada, each application is considered on its own merits with a final decision based on a review of all the information available to the officer at the time of decision.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/econ/cec/work.asp

 

[legalfalcon]

Hello legal falcon.
Is it mandatory for EE-PNP applicant to send schedule 4 or is it only for paper based applications.
I have sent my nomination certificate but nor schedule 4.
Secondly i received my aor on 14th. Since then there is no change in my bg. It is showing not needed at this time. Does This delay means that there are chances that something is wrong with my application or my result would be delayed. The applicants of similar date has either recieved additional doc request or their status is in progress. Neither has happened with my case. That is y it is important for me to understand the role of schedule 4.
If it is not asked from EE applicants than may be i am cool to go.

Schedule 4 is asked from all PNP applicants, irrespective of whether you filed a peer based application or online. However, if there is no slot to upload Schedule 4 when you submit the e-ARP, then IRCC will contact you later and ask you to submit it. I have also come to hear that CIC has incorporated schedule 4, which is a declaration, in the online form itself thereby eliminating it completely as a stand alone form. This in no way delays the application and is a routine exercise. A lot of applicants ask that they do not see a slot to upload Schedule 4, but later on they receive a request to upload. Do not be too concerned about it. Also, I have not see the latest MyCIC, so I cannot comment if it has been incorporated in the system itself.

As regards you second question, every application is different and follows a different timeline. So do not be concerned. You are in the early stages of the process. If you have filed all the details and provided the relevant supporting documents, do not be concerned about anything. Some application get processed way faster than others, but if your application has not seen much movement yet, that does not mean that there is something wrong with it.

The only way to know what is happening in your application is to order GCMS notes. I would encourage your to order your notes after you are in the 2.5 into the process. That will give you a complete picture.

Hope this helps!

 

[legalfalcon]

Makes sense!

How would you interpret this?

An allowance for a reasonable period of vacation time will generally be made in calculating the period of qualifying work experience (e.g., a two-week period of paid vacation leave within a given 52-week period in which the applicant was engaged in qualifying work experience). An allowance for normal vacation time during a period of qualifying work experience cannot be used as a substitute or proxy for meeting the in-Canada element of the work experience requirement (i.e., work experience obtained outside Canada will not be considered as though the applicant had been on a period of vacation in order to be counted as part of the period of in-Canada work experience). While officers will account for a reasonable period of vacation time in calculating the period of qualifying work experience in Canada, each application is considered on its own merits with a final decision based on a review of all the information available to the officer at the time of decision.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/econ/cec/work.asp

What you have provided, read the last two sentences. "While officers will account for a reasonable period of vacation time in calculating the period of qualifying work experience in Canada, each application is considered on its own merits with a final decision based on a review of all the information available to the officer at the time of decision."

There are various facts that are taken into account. How many hours do you work in a week. Is your employment a professional contract, a labor contract etc. How much leave were you offered? What is the industry practice. It is based upon this that an officer will access your file.

 

[Surbhigurpreet]

Schedule 4 is asked from all PNP applicants, irrespective of whether you filed a peer based application or online. However, if there is no slot to upload Schedule 4 when you submit the e-ARP, then IRCC will contact you later and ask you to submit it. I have also come to hear that CIC has incorporated schedule 4, which is a declaration, in the online form itself thereby eliminating it completely as a stand alone form. This in no way delays the application and is a routine exercise. A lot of applicants ask that they do not see a slot to upload Schedule 4, but later on they receive a request to upload. Do not be too concerned about it. Also, I have not see the latest MyCIC, so I cannot comment if it has been incorporated in the system itself.

As regards you second question, every application is different and follows a different timeline. So do not be concerned. You are in the early stages of the process. If you have filed all the details and provided the relevant supporting documents, do not be concerned about anything. Some application get processed way faster than others, but if your application has not seen much movement yet, that does not mean that there is something wrong with it.

The only way to know what is happening in your application is to order GCMS notes. I would encourage your to order your notes after you are in the 2.5 into the process. That will give you a complete picture.

Hope this helps!

That surely helps. Thank you. Please go through following link and advise. I would be greatful.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/prov-apply-application.asp
Thanks n regards

 

[apache5021]

Hi legal falcon
On 22nd Nov.I received a request letter from NDVO to submit PCC from Congo latest by 25th Dec.
I will be uploading the PCC most probably by day after .My query is that will the uploaded document be reviewed by the visa officer as soon as I provide the document or will they check my file onlly after the last date set by ndvo is over?

 

[legalfalcon]

That surely helps. Thank you. Please go through following link and advise. I would be greatful.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/prov-apply-application.asp
Thanks n regards

I don't get your question. What do you want me to review and advise on? Do you have anything specific?

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi legal falcon
On 22nd Nov.I received a request letter from NDVO to submit PCC from Congo latest by 25th Dec.
I will be uploading the PCC most probably by day after .My query is that will the uploaded document be reviewed by the visa officer as soon as I provide the document or will they check my file onlly after the last date set by ndvo is over?

As soon as you upload the document your file is marked complete and is put in the queue for processing. When it is picked up by the CIC officer for processing depends on many factors. They do not wait until the last day, but in some cases the file does keep sitting for a while before it is processed, which may go way beyond the upload deadline. Further, December is a tough month as there are many holidays and IRCC is short staffed. Do keep in mind that IRCC is not only reviewing pending files, they are also getting new applications every day, which have to be processed. Each file has a different timeline which depends on the kind of documents uploaded, the complexity in reviewing the file etc. Some files take longer at the BGC stage, some take longer in employment verifications, etc.

As an applicant your foremost responsibility should be to ensure timely uploading all documents as soon as they are requested. What happens after, is the internal mechanism and cannot be predicted.

I acknowledge my response is vague, but anything I say is just a mere prediction, which I tend to avoid.

 

[Surbhigurpreet]

I don't get your question. What do you want me to review and advise on? Do you have anything specific?

Yes this link says that only paper based application need schedule 4 and the same is not mandatory for ee applications.

 

[legalfalcon]

Yes this link says that only paper based application need schedule 4 and the same is not mandatory for ee applications.

If you read my comment above, I did mention that Sec 4 is a declaration which they might have incorporated in the online form. Since I have not seen the new MyCIC changes, I cannot comment on it. But I am glad you did your research and found it.

 

[Surbhigurpreet]

If you read my comment above, I did mention that Sec 4 is a declaration which they might have incorporated in the online form. Since I have not seen the new MyCIC changes, I cannot comment on it. But I am glad you did your research and found it.

Thank you legal falcon for ur help. We lawyers cam research well.
I suppose now after going through this link it can be confirmed that PNP applicants are not required to fill schedule 4.
Thanks and regards
Like always +1 for u

 

[Surbhigurpreet]

Legal falcon r u done with ur NCA. Can v discuss abt it.

 

[Surbhigurpreet]

One more thing legal falcon as till date my bg is not needed and also I have not recieved any update or ghost email from ircc. Can I assume that the same has not been transferred to NDVO. Also, if not than what is the right time to assume that the file has been transferred. Thanks and regards

 

[legalfalcon]

Legal falcon r u done with ur NCA. Can v discuss abt it.

I would refrain from discussing my personal issues on the forum. Thanks for your understanding.