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Hi Legalfalcon

need your advice please regarding the uploaded PCC for myself and wife. My file contains PCC from UAE and Lebanon scanned in color and translated so no issue. But for the file I uploaded for my wife, I noticed that I uploaded only the translated PCC from Lebanon, which is a black and white copy of the original plus the certified translation. Looking at the info in the below link, seems this will result in rejection. Can you please let me know if I have to raise CSE, or it will not be an issue? thanks.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp
 

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ashishsharma2985 said:
Dear Legalfalcon ,

I have received ITA and need your advice on below.

My spouse was working for a company after marriage and we decided to change her maiden name to my last name, so based on marriage certificate the company entered her last name as my name in company records. Later my spouse decided to keep her name as all the legal documents had name before marriage.

My question is

Do I need to show her name(Her name in Previous Company) in EE profile. This name is only in her previous company records(Offer Letter,Payslip etc).

Options:
1. Can I remove this experience under her Work History and put it under Personal history as I am not getting any points for this.

2. Should I show her name In EE profile and attach LOE along with affidavit and Marriage certificate.

Please Advice
Don't be too concerned about it CIC sees this issue all the time. Your wife should use her name as it appears in her Passport. If any other documents has a different name, you can execute an affidavit and support it with her other legal documents, birth certificate, other ID proofs and upload them as an attachment in the LoE.
 

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Hi Legalfalcon

Got the ITA today, thnx for all ur help I really appreciate all ur immediate responses.

Need some assistance again in regards with Last 10 years History

do I need to mention all my work experiences for which I'm not claiming points for either it's doesn't come under NOC list or I don't have any proof for that experience?

Regards
 

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Ferasz said:
Hi Legalfalcon

need your advice please regarding the uploaded PCC for myself and wife. My file contains PCC from UAE and Lebanon scanned in color and translated so no issue. But for the file I uploaded for my wife, I noticed that I uploaded only the translated PCC from Lebanon, which is a black and white copy of the original plus the certified translation. Looking at the info in the below link, seems this will result in rejection. Can you please let me know if I have to raise CSE, or it will not be an issue? thanks.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp
There is no requirement for a coloured scanned copy, however, you do have to upload the original and the translated version. If you did upload the original (B&W or colour) and the translation, you are good, nothing to worry about.
 

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deepgill said:
Hi Legalfalcon,

Hope you are doing well. I have couple of questions for you if you don't mind answering:-

1) What is the difference between Criminality check, security checks and background check in Express entry. As far as I understand-

Criminality check - Clear PCC
Security Check - Espionage, terrorism and organised crime etc.
Background check - documents check.

2) What is the role of PCC in criminality check and security check. Is clear valid PCC means criminality is pass in most cases?

Sorry, if these are explained somewhere.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards
Here is what I wrote sometime ago and how this answers your questions.

I have shared this in the past and wanted to put it here for your benefit. Hope you find it useful:

As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of a standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicant's age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score determined. There is an exception clause for when the age changes, it keeps the CRS score intact. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here because they are incomplete.

7. At the R10 review, if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually, by this stage, the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a reassesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send your application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal EE application, which was filed in Sep 15' and approved in April 16.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have.
 

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s.tamoor said:
Hi Legalfalcon

Got the ITA today, thnx for all ur help I really appreciate all ur immediate responses.

Need some assistance again in regards with Last 10 years History

do I need to mention all my work experiences for which I'm not claiming points for either it's doesn't come under NOC list or I don't have any proof for that experience?

Regards
In your past 10 year history you have to mention where you lived and what you were doing while living at that place. If you were employed, simply say employed, or student. For the work experience you are not claiming any point you don't have to give any proofs. The 10 year history is need by the CIC to conduct their security checks and cross verify where all you have visited and lived.
 

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Hi Legal Falcon,

I just received ITA and preparing paperwork.
I would like to know if the reference letter from HR to show that you have worked at the company, must be an original copy?
I have worked in Banff and the company i worked for, will need to keep original copy so they can only send me a scanned copy.
They have listed all of requirements (e..g job title, how much i was paid for, start and end date, on company's letterhead and also a copy of HR person's business card). I just want to make sure I am not missing anything.

Thank you!
 

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snowface0214 said:
Hi Legal Falcon,

I just received ITA and preparing paperwork.
I would like to know if the reference letter from HR to show that you have worked at the company, must be an original copy?
I have worked in Banff and the company i worked for, will need to keep original copy so they can only send me a scanned copy.
They have listed all of requirements (e..g job title, how much i was paid for, start and end date, on company's letterhead and also a copy of HR person's business card). I just want to make sure I am not missing anything.

Thank you!
Technically speaking, you only need a scanned copy to upload it. So if your get a clean scanned copy, you are good. As long as the company agrees to vouch for the fact that you worked and give you a reference letter on their letter head, it would suffice.
 

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Thank you so much!
I have another question if i may... I have lived in 18 different places in last 8 years (i was international student back then and had to switch around places) - will it be okay if i state the approximate time of start and end date for each place i have lived?
 

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snowface0214 said:
Thank you so much!
I have another question if i may... I have lived in 18 different places in last 8 years (i was international student back then and had to switch around places) - will it be okay if i state the approximate time of start and end date for each place i have lived?

If you do not have exact dates, approximate dates will work.
 

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Hi Legalfalcon,

I have a couple of queries regarding proof of funds and other liabilities in bank statement.

-I have made investments in mutual funds and shares. Do i have to sell them and keep in my account for 6 months or can i sell them when i get an ITA and show them as proceeds from sale of investments. If yes will this hold good for PNP proof of funds as well.

- I will have certain liabilities in my bank statement like car loan and house loan EMI. I will sell the car when i receive an ITA but the home loan might remain as it is a joint loan with my father as primary applicant. Will this effect the proof of funds criteria when i show the bank statement

pls clarify
 

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legalfalcon said:
There is no requirement for a coloured scanned copy, however, you do have to upload the original and the translated version. If you did upload the original (B&W or colour) and the translation, you are good, nothing to worry about.
Thank you. I just saw your reply this morning but last night I was worried and went for CSE requesting IRCC officer to replace the file I uploaded in MyCIC account by another one I attached to the CSE. The only difference between the two files is that I added the colored original. Does this have any impact on the application or will it cause any delays?

Thanks again!
 

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Hi Legalfalcon
today my medical status changed from passed to not needed at this time .My medical was due to get expired day after.I just want to know if this change is automated and when can I expect mail for re medicals.Secondly ,I have already furnished the PCC for congo a month back .(ndvo had sent me a request letter to provide pcc on 21st nov.)On mycic account, it says document provided but it has not changed to reviewed .Is it normal.Are they taking time to verify the document
Thank you in advance
 

Azulete

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Hi,

we got invite on JAN 16' and submitted our application on APRIL 16' along with medical and the status of medical report was passed.

Now we got messgage from CIC to submit medical again and status was again changed to review in progress.

Note : we took our medical test in March 16' and its valid for 2 more months.

Anybody faced the same? Any idea why cic is asking to redo medicals when we still have validity?

Thanks for the help.
 

simple25

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Dear Legalfalcon,
greetings,

thanks again for my previous questions, i have to submit eAPR, is it mandatory to attach the initial job letter and confirmation letter i got after 3 months of job(3 months probationary period), i have reference letter which include the following:

its on official document printed on company letterhead which include the my name,current date, the company’s contact information-address, telephone number and email address, and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company,
it indicate all positions held while employed at the company and include the following details: job title, duties and responsibilities, current job status, dates worked for the company, number of work hours per week and annual salary plus benefits.

is this reference letter sufficient, is it mandatory to attach initial job letter and confirmation letter which is five years ago at the time of appointment, if i don't attach these initial appointment letters, would there be issue of rejection of my application.