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Spousal sponsorship

Abuelita

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Sep 28, 2014
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michminn said:
Yes it is, she is actually building a house there! Congrats on your marriage and your new life, I hope all goes well in you case.

P.S.

I grew up in Tucson, AZ 2 hours from the border; learning Spanish was easy ;)
Thanks and likewise, I also hope all goes smoothly in your case!
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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FAM
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Seoul, Korea
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13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
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30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
2cookies said:
for option 1 - if they stay in canada 2 years straight......it must be with the 5 years before the PR card expires or they can stay even if its expires?
They can stay even if it expires. It just means they can no longer travel with the card if it's expired. But their PR status remains.

As I said, the big concern here is there's a chance the CBSA officer they talk to when entering Canada, will notice they don't meet residency obligations and report them, in which case they would still be allowed to enter Canada but would get an appointment to meet with government to determine their PR status, and would most likely have it revoked.

But if they aren't reported, all is good. There is no telling if they will be reported or not upon arrival.
 

2cookies

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May 20, 2014
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Rob_TO said:
They can stay even if it expires. It just means they can no longer travel with the card if it's expired. But their PR status remains.

As I said, the big concern here is there's a chance the CBSA officer they talk to when entering Canada, will notice they don't meet residency obligations and report them, in which case they would still be allowed to enter Canada but would get an appointment to meet with government to determine their PR status, and would most likely have it revoked.

But if they aren't reported, all is good. There is no telling if they will be reported or not upon arrival.
when i call CIC the agent said exactly what you mention in the first line but then just t make sure I am getting the correct info I call CIC again and they said once its expired nothing can be done. So this is really confusing.
If my spouse can "successfully" enter Canada even if she dont have the residency obligation and stay here for 2 years then renew it will be great otherwise will have no choice but to sponsor her.
One more question...in the case it get revoke - what next? Can she stay in Canada or she will have to go back?
Thanks anyways for the info. Greatly appreciated
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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13-07-2012
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18-08-2012
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21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
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N/R - Exempt
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30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
2cookies said:
I call CIC again and they said once its expired nothing can be done. So this is really confusing.
If the PR card expires while outside Canada and she don't meet residency requirement, then the agent is correct and nothing can be done (assuming she is NOT visa-exempt). In this case she should just voluntarily give up PR status.

But an expired PR card if you are already in Canada, doesn't mean anything. It's the same as having an expired passport. Once she meets the residency obligations she can just apply to renew it with no problems. Of course during the 2 years in Canada, she can't leave for any reason whatsoever as she would not be able to return.


One more question...in the case it get revoke - what next? Can she stay in Canada or she will have to go back?
If the CBSA officer reports her, and she has her hearing and PR is revoked... then she would need to apply for a TRV if she wanted to stay in Canada. But there's a good chance that would be denied, so in that case would need to return back to home country and wait until you can sponsor her again for PR.
 

mccague

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Sep 15, 2014
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ADVO
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June 29, 2015
AOR Received.
July 30, 2015
File Transfer...
September 10, 2015
Med's Done....
Upfront
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26-11-2015
Hello,

So I am a Canadian citizen applying for my husband sponsorship. I have filled the forms but I have troubke getting the PCC from KSA. The VO is Abu Dhabi, I want to know how long do they normally take in order ti provide the request letter for PCC. He has his PCC from England and its about to expire in three weeks and we want to submit the application ASAP. We just werent sure if we needed to submit PCC for KSA now since we thought they would request it later. Please help me out anyone from Saudi Arabia if you remember the timeline of getting the PCC from Riyadh and if you can request your home embassy (Pakistani) can help you with providing one and id it matters how the request for PCC was put in?

Thank you lovely people x
 

Antoinetee

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Jun 11, 2014
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Paris
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App. Filed.......
19-07-2014
Doc's Request.
30/09/2014
AOR Received.
29/09/2014
File Transfer...
12-09-2014
Med's Done....
13-06-2014
Our application status has been changed to IN PROCESS at Paris VO.
However it still doesn't show that my husband's medicals has been received.
AND.... a question: my husband has children from a previous marriage. His daughter is 18 (still in high school) and his son is 15. They are both in full custody of their mother. We did not get medicals done for them, nor police clearances, since the mom refused. Now we have received a request from the Paris VO to send the daughter's police clearance and a IMM 5669. Why do they still request this even though we have signed a declaration that we are aware of the fact that we can not sponsor them in the future? Any one had experience with this?

Thanks in advance :) for your replies
 

tink23

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Apr 23, 2011
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Dec 4, 2012
Antoinetee said:
Our application status has been changed to IN PROCESS at Paris VO.
However it still doesn't show that my husband's medicals has been received.
AND.... a question: my husband has children from a previous marriage. His daughter is 18 (still in high school) and his son is 15. They are both in full custody of their mother. We did not get medicals done for them, nor police clearances, since the mom refused. Now we have received a request from the Paris VO to send the daughter's police clearance and a IMM 5669. Why do they still request this even though we have signed a declaration that we are aware of the fact that we can not sponsor them in the future? Any one had experience with this?

Thanks in advance :) for your replies
Because it is mandatory for dependents to submit medical exams. You are going to have to try again to get medical exams for his children. Do whatever is in your power for the children's mother to understand this. If it can't be done, then I would have a legal document done up stating that the mother wouldn't allow them to have the Medicals and that you completely understand the repercussions of not providing the medical exams for his children.
 

Antoinetee

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29/09/2014
File Transfer...
12-09-2014
Med's Done....
13-06-2014
tink23 said:
Because it is mandatory for dependents to submit medical exams. You are going to have to try again to get medical exams for his children. Do whatever is in your power for the children's mother to understand this. If it can't be done, then I would have a legal document done up stating that the mother wouldn't allow them to have the Medicals and that you completely understand the repercussions of not providing the medical exams for his children.

thanks. i guess we'll have to do up the legal document then. we have tried already to explain this to her. i guess she is scared the kids will go with us :(
 

mccague

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Sep 15, 2014
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ADVO
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June 29, 2015
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July 30, 2015
File Transfer...
September 10, 2015
Med's Done....
Upfront
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26-11-2015
Hello everyone,

Do we fill out the forms in the Instruction Guide as well? Like the Supplementary Information Form or Residency Questionnaire. I am sponsoring my husband who is a Pakistani citizen residing in Saudi Arabia. Please help me with the Instruction Guid. I am confused.

Also, only two of the forms IMM 0008 and Undertaking Form generate the bar code page and none other than that? Am I right?

Thanks

P.S : Our VO is Abu Dhabi
 

2cookies

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May 20, 2014
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Rob_TO said:
If the PR card expires while outside Canada and she don't meet residency requirement, then the agent is correct and nothing can be done (assuming she is NOT visa-exempt). In this case she should just voluntarily give up PR status.

But an expired PR card if you are already in Canada, doesn't mean anything. It's the same as having an expired passport. Once she meets the residency obligations she can just apply to renew it with no problems. Of course during the 2 years in Canada, she can't leave for any reason whatsoever as she would not be able to return.


If the CBSA officer reports her, and she has her hearing and PR is revoked... then she would need to apply for a TRV if she wanted to stay in Canada. But there's a good chance that would be denied, so in that case would need to return back to home country and wait until you can sponsor her again for PR.


Thanks a lot Rob.. make some sense now.
Your help was greatly appreciated.
 

lizetterainey

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Oct 9, 2014
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hi, i wonder if someone her can tell me what is AOR? what does it look like? after paying the rprf, ill be waiting for an AOR? im confused please help. thanks a lot!
 

michminn

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Aug 26, 2014
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05/12/2014
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Soon... 25/6/2015 !!!!!!!!!!! Anticipated
lizetterainey said:
hi, i wonder if someone her can tell me what is AOR? what does it look like? after paying the rprf, ill be waiting for an AOR? im confused please help. thanks a lot!
Quoted from: mikeramma


Immigration acronyms:
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AOR - Acknowledgement of Receipt

CAIPS - Computer Assisted Immigration Processing System. This is the computer system used by Citizenship and Immigration Canada for storing all overseas visa application information. This system records every bit of information you provide. It is like an electronic identity; existence of the applicant. This is very helpful when anything abnormal happens (e.g. delay in reply, lack of updation, long processing time). It is also helpful when you are selected for the interview. You can know the probable cause of interview requirement by obtaining the CAIPS notes.
CANN - Community Airport Newcomers' Network
CELPIP - Canadian English Language Proficiency Index Program. This is one of only two English language testing organizations approved by CIC (IELTS is the other). CELPIP testing is only available in Canada (Vancouver and Toronto) and China.
CPP - Canada Pension Plan
CIC - Citizenship and Immigration Canada
CICIC - Canadian Information Centre for International Credentials
CIDA - Canadian International Development Agency
COPR - Confirmation of Permanent Resident Form
CSQ - Certificate du Selection du Quebec (Quebec Certificate of Selection)

DMP - Designated Medical Practitioner. Under the Skilled Worker Program application all family members must undergo a medical exam, performed by a doctor that has been approved by Citizenship and Immigration Canada.
IRPA - Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
IRPR - Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations
EAL - English as an Additional Language
e-CAS - e-Client Application Status. This on-line service allows CIC clients to view securely the status of immigration and/or citizenship application(s) on-line, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You may use this service if you have sponsored a member of the family class, applied for permanent residence from within or outside Canada, applied for a permanent resident card (initial, replacement or renewal), applied for a grant of Canadian citizenship, or applied for a proof of Canadian citizenship.
EFL - English as a Foreign Language
EI - Employment Insurance (also sometimes referred to as unemployment insurance)
ELT - English Language Training/Teaching
ESL - English as a Second Language
ESOL - English for Speakers of Other Languages
ESP - English for Specific Purposes
GIC - Guaranteed Investment Certificate
GST - Goods and Services Tax
H&C grounds - Humanitarian and Compassionate grounds. In the case of Canadian immigration, refers to section A25(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. Any person who does not comply with the three categories of immigration to Canada (family, economic and refugee) may ask to be considered for immigration selection on H&C grounds.
HRDC (see HRSDC) - former Human Resources Development Canada
HRSDC - Human Resources and Skills Development Canada. The government agency responsible for performing both Arranged Employment Opinions and Labour Market Opinions for the purposes of obtaining employment confirmation letters. Such letters may be required by Skilled Worker applicants when attempting to qualify for the additional ten points under the Arranged Employment Factor.
ICCS - International Council for Canadian Studies
ID - Identification
IELTS - International English Language Testing System. One of only two English language testing organizations approved by CIC (CELPIP is the other). Note that Skilled Worker applicants will want to complete the IELTS 'General Training' exams, not the 'Academic Training' exams.
IRPA - Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.
MSP - Medical Services Plan
NOC - National Occupational Classification
NGO - Non-Governmental Organization
OLA - Open Learning Agency
PST - Provincial Sales Tax
RCMP - Royal Canadian Mounted Police
RRPF - Right of Permanent Residence Fee
RRSP - Registered Retirement Savings Plan
SIN -Social Insurance Number
SWP - Skilled Worker Program
TEF - Test d'Evaluation de Français. The only French language testing organization approved by CIC. Note that Skilled Workers are to complete the following tests: Comprehension Ocrite / Comprehension Orale / Expression Ecrite / Expression Orale.
VSO - Voluntary Services Overseas
WCB - Workers' Compensation Board
YMCA - Young Men's Christian Association
YWCA - Young Women's Christian Association
IA-Intial Assessment
PPR-Passport Request
 

Tj777

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Nov 5, 2012
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MANILA
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05-06-2014
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Hi Good Day to All.I just want to have some help or advices. I just arrived in Alberta,Canda as PR spousal Visa. I am planning to work in a health care field. Since my educational documents and papers are from my country does it necessary to send them in IQAS in order to assess and qualify? Or i can just use my foreign documents to apply directly?Hope someone can help.Thanks in advance.
 

vik999

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Jul 4, 2014
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mississauga
Hello everone,

Need ur help and guidance. PLs suggest in my situation.

We filed inland in May 2014. Recieved AOR in August. Later we came across some mistakes overlooked by our representative so in sept 2014 we filed correction of affidiavit and cancellation of representative.
We are not able to check status online... looks like only till April 2014 are able to login ..

Could you suggest how can we get the status.. Customer care number no one picks up...

pls suggest..
 

mccague

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Sep 15, 2014
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ADVO
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App. Filed.......
June 29, 2015
AOR Received.
July 30, 2015
File Transfer...
September 10, 2015
Med's Done....
Upfront
Passport Req..
26-11-2015
Okay so someone needs to help me asap please. Just a little bit of scenario, I am Canadian citizen and sponsoring my husband who resides in Saudi Arabia and is a Pakistani National. Now I know we are choosing ADVO as our office but I am really confused about the Instruction Guide. So I have a few questions if anyone is in the similar situation.

1. There is a document checklist under Sponsorship Forms [IMM 5491] and then there is a Document Checklist in the Instruction Guide for Middle East. Am I submitting both?

2. Will my husband be filling the Supplementary Travel Info and Military Forms.


3. There is a Residency Questionnaire that has CHC Islamabad written on top and then there are two Residency Questionnaires for the residents of Abu Dhabi. Now my husband is clearly a resident of Saudi Arabia but a Pakistani national. Will he be filling our any other those forms in this guide:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/3911e.pdf

4. One of the questions in the Residency questionnaire is : "Please give the name of the countries where your sponsor has resided, your sponsor's complete
address(es), and telephone numbers in these countries, as well as period of residence at each
address since the time your sponsorship application was submitted"
.. Now with this question I think we fill this form at a later stage when the VO requests us.


I dont want to miss any document to cause any delay. This forum is really helpful and I am sure be able to help us.

Thnks,
M