Baffled said:First, I am no professional Immigration Lawyer, and my application for PR is still "In Process", but I am sharing with you what we did for the application. So, what I state here is in no way a guarantee.
Secondly, refer to these guides depending if applying INLAND or OUTLAND:
Inland: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5289ETOC.asp
Outland: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3999Etoc.asp#3999E4
NOTE: (This is the information guide I used for reference when answering your questions below.)
Generic Application Form for Canada (IMM 0008) - Fill out this form completely as stated in the instruction guide:
Who must fill out this application form?
This form must be completed by:
You, the principal applicant.
Additional Family Information (IMM 5406) - Fill out this form completely as stated in the instruction guide:
Who needs to fill out this application form?
This form must be completed by:
You, as the principal applicant,
Your spouse or common-law partner (whether accompanying you to Canada or not), and
Your dependent children aged 18 or over (whether accompanying you to Canada or not).
Fill out everything that applies to you and supply an additional sheet if you must. More information is better than not enough with questionable red flags. I filled out everything that applied to myself. Remember that both of these documents are about the PRINCIPAL APPLICANT, the person trying to obtain the Permanent Residency / Immigrate to Canada. Information that pertains to him/her not the person who is sponsoring, they have their own documents to fill out.
Schedule A – Background/Declaration (IMM 5669) - Fill out this form completely as stated in the instruction guide:
Who must fill out this application form?
This form must be completed by:
you, the principal applicant;
your spouse or common-law partner (whether accompanying you to Canada or not), and
your dependent children aged 18 years or older (whether accompanying you to Canada or not).
Every document above is required and must be completed to the best of the Principal Applicants knowledge. And as underlined, even though they are not accompanying him/her children must complete the forms also IF they are 18 years or older. Again this application is directed towards the Principal Applicant not the Sponsor.
Hope this helps and please anyone correct me if I am wrong about any part above. And remember the information shared here is assuming an OUTLAND APPLICATION.
Baffled
Thank you for your reply but yes I am reading the guidelines and whatever you posted here is what I have been reading too. The only thing that confuses me is the fact that the Sponsor is a Canadian citizen by birth and has two adult dependants, both Canadians of course.
Here is what I wrote in my previous query "Here is the situation, my relative is marrying a Canadian by birth. BOTH of them have been married and divorced and both have 2 kids. My relative has 2 minor dependants but they will be declared as NON ACCOMPANYING. The Canadian on the other hand has two kids from previous marriage, both are adults, ages 19 and 25. Do all 4 children need to complete the forms mentioned above?" -- Suffice it to say, I am aware that the two children of the person being sponsored do not need to fill these forms because they are, well, minors. My main concern is the other two dependants who are OVER 18 years of age. As far as I know they do not need to complete these forms because they're Canadians and children of the sponsor but I could be wrong too that's why I needed to hear other people's opinion.
"Fill out everything that applies to you and supply an additional sheet if you must. More information is better than not enough with questionable red flags. I filled out everything that applied to myself. Remember that both of these documents are about the PRINCIPAL APPLICANT, the person trying to obtain the Permanent Residency / Immigrate to Canada. Information that pertains to him/her not the person who is sponsoring, they have their own documents to fill out."
"Every document above is required and must be completed to the best of the Principal Applicants knowledge. And as underlined, even though they are not accompanying him/her children must complete the forms also IF they are 18 years or older. Again this application is directed towards the Principal Applicant not the Sponsor."
Everything you said is what I understand too, from my own perspective. Being that the immigration process is always a tricky thing, I want to make sure that the canadian kids need not fill up anything because, like what you said, this application is about the principal applicant. Again, my main concern is the other two dependants who are OVER 18 years of age. I never included them because like you, I believe they are out of the picture because they are the sponsor's children, not the principal applicant's. I would just like to clarify and verify things.
See, here's the thing on the guideline, like what you posted above:
Additional Family Information (IMM 5406) - Fill out this form completely as stated in the instruction guide:
Who needs to fill out this application form?
This form must be completed by:
You, as the principal applicant, - yes
Your spouse or common-law partner (whether accompanying you to Canada or not), and - well the spouse is the sponsor, so does she need to fill this out?
Your dependent children aged 18 or over (whether accompanying you to Canada or not).- Your dependent children meaning, the children of the principal applicant thus those kids need not to fill this up as they are both minors. However, the SPONSOR has two dependants aged 18 and over as well but they are Canadians and as far as I understand this statement, the canadians need not fill up anything. Is that right?
Thanks much for the help