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SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

scylla

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scylla

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AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I couldn’t sleep this night thinking of what happened to duaa Ali, guys imagine we all are being sponsored by someone and it could have been any one of us too. Alas it’s terrible to think of. And I talked to duaa the email she sent me is seems to have been made through phishing. There is no UCI number and it looked so odd to me even it’s came from the lvo(although this email address can be made through fake applications). As to my knowledge her husband can only withdraw her application base on the signed undertaking which he signed during the application submission process. But that’s only when the decision on her application has not been made yet, once decision is made IRCC doesn’t consider anything unless and until its extravagantly dangerous and can harm someone’s life and injured someone.
And the best suggestion to my sister DUAA ALI she should attempt to fly and land. IA she would be fine.
Your assumptions are incorrect. The application can definitely be withdrawn after the decision has been made and after the COPR has been issued, as long as this is done before the applicant lands in Canada and becomes a PR. It's absolutely possible and we've seen it happen here from time to time (not often). The sponsor has the right to withdraw the application anytime before landing and withdrawing sponsorship cancels the COPR. A few years ago we had a situation here where a Canadian wife sponsored her foreign husband. Application was approved and he got the COPR. As he was boarding the plane to fly to Canada to join her here and land and become a PR, he called her and told her not to bother to come to the airport to pick him up. He said he just wanted PR and wasn't going to live with her ever. She managed to call IRCC and CBSA and get his COPR canceled as he was in the air flying to Canada. His landing was denied when he arrived since his sponsor had withdraw her support. So completely possible to cancel after approval and after the COPR.
 

samsung_me

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It is a very sad news. You got some great points. At this point seeking for legal advice from a trusted source to find out if a sponsor / spouse can withdraw the case after visa has been issued would help.
Obviously if she can get a hold of her husband somehow will resolve the issue.
Hope this helps
Once the decision has been made and they have granted pr/Copr, it can not be revoked, I tell you why, before getting the visa/Copr you are just an applicant who has applied to be a Permanent resident, once they have concluded and granted one a Copr /pr, one has same rights of Permanent resident as someone residing in Canada, hence they can not just take it away, it has a long process on other party/spouse part to get it revoked. It is from a personal experience as someone in the family came to the point where they wanted ones application withdrawn, but it was too late since the decision had been made and they had granted the copr to them. Withdrawal is possible before them granting the visa to travel.
P. S, all this happened within 3 months. We did everything we could to stop the person but immigration said, the person has the rights of permanent resident hence they can not just simply revoke everything.

Regards
 

scylla

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Buffalo
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App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Once the decision has been made and they have granted pr/Copr, it can not be revoked, I tell you why, before getting the visa/Copr you are just an applicant who has applied to be a Permanent resident, once they have concluded and granted one a Copr /pr, one has same rights of Permanent resident as someone residing in Canada, hence they can not just take it away, it has a long process on other party/spouse part to get it revoked. It is from a personal experience as someone in the family came to the point where they wanted ones application withdrawn, but it was too late since the decision had been made and they had granted the copr to them. Withdrawal is possible before them granting the visa to travel.

Regards
This is unfortunately incorrect. The application can still be withdrawn / revoked after approval and after the COPR has been issued but before the applicant lands and officially becomes a PR. Someone with an approved visa / COPR does not have the same rights as a permanent resident (you only have these rights after you land and actually become a PR). The sponsor can still withdraw their support for the application until such a time as the applicant lands in Canada and becomes a PR.

While these situations are quite rare, we do see situations on this forum once in a while where the sponsor cancels the application after approval. This cancels the COPR in CBSA's systems and then applicant then cannot use it to land and become a PR.
 
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samsung_me

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i request you guys please pray for me

my family and i could not sleep whole night...

this was the hardest night of our lives

someone told me it could be due to expire medical...

the mail was not look alike old emails

in mail they wrote GC,JO in subject line

and in email they didn't mention uci number and file number
You should attempt to travel, we tried to stop someone in last few months, but since everything was done, the immigration said the person has the rights of permanent resident and they can not simply revoke the rights or visa. May Allah makes it easy for you.

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Once the decision has been made and they have granted pr/Copr, it can not be revoked, I tell you why, before getting the visa/Copr you are just an applicant who has applied to be a Permanent resident, once they have concluded and granted one a Copr /pr, one has same rights of Permanent resident as someone residing in Canada, hence they can not just take it away, it has a long process on other party/spouse part to get it revoked. It is from a personal experience as someone in the family came to the point where they wanted ones application withdrawn, but it was too late since the decision had been made and they had granted the copr to them. Withdrawal is possible before them granting the visa to travel.
P. S, all this happened within 3 months. We did everything we could to stop the person but immigration said, the person has the rights of permanent resident hence they can not just simply revoke everything.

Regards
Incorrect. You are NOT a PR till you have 'landed' and your COPR has been signed and stamped by the relevant CBSA personnel So they can withdraw the application before you land and after the One-time Visa and COPR. You can refer to @scylla 's response above.
 
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scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,880
22,134
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
You should attempt to travel, we tried to stop someone in last few months, but since everything was done, the immigration said the person has the rights of permanent resident and they can not simply revoke the rights or visa. May Allah makes it easy for you.

Regards
Out of curiosity, was this a spousal sponsorship application or something else (e.g. depending in an economic immigration class)? We've definitely seen a number of people cancel applications on this forum after COPR. I wonder why the person you know wasn't allowed to do this. They should have been allowed.
 

samsung_me

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This is unfortunately incorrect. The application can still be withdrawn / revoked after approval and after the COPR has been issued but before the applicant lands and officially becomes a PR. Someone with an approved visa / COPR does not have the same rights as a permanent resident (you only have these rights after you land and actually become a PR). The sponsor can still withdraw their support for the application until such a time as the applicant lands in Canada and becomes a PR.

While these situations are quite rare, we do see situations on this forum once in a while where the sponsor cancels the application after approval. This cancels the COPR in CBSA's systems and then applicant then cannot use it to land and become a PR.
I don't understand why would Canadian immigration would say otherwise, since it was exact same situation at our end, but I mean perhaps there were different circumstances involved. Thanks for clarification anyway.

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samsung_me

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Out of curiosity, was this a spousal sponsorship application or something else (e.g. depending in an economic immigration class)? We've definitely seen a number of people cancel applications on this forum after COPR. I wonder why the person you know wasn't allowed to do this. They should have been allowed.
That is the dilemma right now for me, it was spousal application, a complicated case not to mention, yet I read the reply from Canadian immigration, that the person has been granted the visa and now have same rights as any other permanent resident.

Regards
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,880
22,134
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
That is the dilemma right now for me, it was spousal application, a complicated case not to mention, yet I read the reply from Canadian immigration, that the person has been granted the visa and now have same rights as any other permanent resident.

Regards
That's unfortunate. I think that was the wrong answer from IRCC / CBSA and they should have helped your family member who was the sponsor.