Sponsoring a dependent child alone

[kutchiputchi]

That is correct. Sponsoring a child for PR has be to done outland only. No choice.

What where is that written...?

 

[rhcohen2014]

here is the verbage from the cic application:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/spouse-apply-how.asp

If your spouse or partner lives with you in Canada, use the Application for Permanent Residence in Canada—Spouse or Common-Law Partner. Note: if a child of your spouse or partner is also living with you in Canada, they may be included on the application if they meet the definition of dependent child.

OR,
If your spouse, partner or dependent child lives outside Canada, use the Application to Sponsor a Member of the Family Class.

 

[Ponga]

What where is that written...?

Just to follow-up with what rhcohen2014 has provided you with:

Note: if a child of your spouse or partner is also living with you in Canada, they may be included on the application (this means that the child could have been added to YOUR Inland application, which s/he was not, because s/he hadn't been born yet...right) if they meet the definition of dependent child. Now...If the child was born BEFORE you received your PR...then you have a much bigger problem.

OR,
If your spouse, partner or dependent child lives outside Canada, use the Application to Sponsor a Member of the Family Class.

 

[MilesAway]

VO=Visa Office?

Rcohen posted: " a dependant child can only be included on an inland application if they are being added to a spousal sponsorship. otherwise, the only way to sponsor a dependant child is from outside of canada"


So it's opposite then what other said that it can be done ONLY outland..

It's not the opposite, it's the same. The dependent child is not being included in a spousal sponsorship, so it cannot be sponsored inland.

 

[kutchiputchi]

It's not the opposite, it's the same. The dependent child is not being included in a spousal sponsorship, so it cannot be sponsored inland.

screech339 said on a different post:
"If you do land in Canada before baby is born and then deliver in your country, you can start a new PR paperwork for baby. However the baby will have to remain in your country and one of you would have to be in Canada to submit the papers and remain in Canada until baby gets PR"

Is that true?

 

[MilesAway]

You could try to get a visa for the baby, but those are often refused, so if that's the case, then yes, you would have to be in Canada to sponsor while your baby remains in your home country.

 

[kutchiputchi]

You could try to get a visa for the baby, but those are often refused, so if that's the case, then yes, you would have to be in Canada to sponsor while your baby remains in your home country.

Where does it says? couldn't find this on cic website

 

[MilesAway]

Where does it say what?

 

[screech339]

screech339 said on a different post:
"If you do land in Canada before baby is born and then deliver in your country, you can start a new PR paperwork for baby. However the baby will have to remain in your country and one of you would have to be in Canada to submit the papers and remain in Canada until baby gets PR"

Is that true?

Unless you are from a visa exempt country, your child will need a visa to enter Canada. The chances of child getting TRV is very very small considering child will have stronger ties to Canada and not to your country. So without a visa for your child, the child cannot enter Canada, thus must remain in country until Pr is granted.

Since PR's are required to remain and reside in Canada whenever they sponsor anyone, spouse, dependent or parents, one of you must be in Canada to start PR paperwork and submit it outland. While the other PR parent remain in country with child until PR is granted.

There have been cases whereby both PR parents had to leave child behind to relatives in order to maintain their Pr RO to maintain status or risk losing their Pr due to not meeting residency requirement (2/5 year).

 

[kutchiputchi]

Unless you are from a visa exempt country, your child will need a visa to enter Canada. The chances of child getting TRV is very very small considering child will have stronger ties to Canada and not to your country. So without a visa for your child, the child cannot enter Canada, thus must remain in country until Pr is granted.

Since PR's are required to remain and reside in Canada whenever they sponsor anyone, spouse, dependent or parents, one of you must be in Canada to start PR paperwork and submit it outland. While the other PR parent remain in country with child until PR is granted.

There have been cases whereby both PR parents had to leave child behind to relatives in order to maintain their Pr RO to maintain status or risk losing their Pr due to not meeting residency requirement (2/5 year).

In our case the sponsor is Canadian citizen not a PR, and she sponsored me and our current child, sec, we live in a visa exempt country.
So we have both of the options? inland and outland?

 

[MilesAway]

Outland is still the only option, but if the child is visa-exempt, then the child can enter Canada as a visitor. You will need to apply to extend their stay about 30 days before it expires.

Your original question was not clear, and you did not provide details, which is why there was confusion. If the sponsor is a Canadian citizen, why are they unable to pass that on to the child? Are they a second-generation born abroad? The visa-exempt status is also crucial information.

 

[screech339]

In our case the sponsor is Canadian citizen not a PR, and she sponsored me and our current child, sec, we live in a visa exempt country.
So we have both of the options? inland and outland?

If your wife is Canadian born or Naturalized Canadian, then she can pass canadian citizenship to the child if the child is born in home country. The child would not need to be sponsored at all. The child would need to apply for Canadian citizenship certificate. The child can still enter Canada with home country Passport and apply for citizenship certificate when you are in Canada.

If however the wife was born outside Canada but gotten citizenship through one of her parents, then she cannot pass on Canadian citizenship to her child. The child would still need to get PR to move to Canada. The child can still come to Canada as a visitor but need to be sponsored for PR while child is in Canada awaiting PR.

Screech339

 

[kutchiputchi]

Outland is still the only option, but if the child is visa-exempt, then the child can enter Canada as a visitor. You will need to apply to extend their stay about 30 days before it expires.

Your original question was not clear, and you did not provide details, which is why there was confusion. If the sponsor is a Canadian citizen, why are they unable to pass that on to the child? Are they a second-generation born abroad? The visa-exempt status is also crucial information.

Because she was born outside Canada but gotten citizenship through one of her parents

So we have both options? stay in our current country and submit the application outland, or, move to Canada with child as a visitor and submit inland?

 

[screech339]

Because she was born outside Canada but gotten citizenship through one of her parents

So we have both options? stay in our current country and submit the application outland, or, move to Canada with child as a visitor and submit inland?

There is no sponsorship to be done. Your child will have Canadian citizenship whether you land in canada before baby or after. I am assuming you already have PR application in process. Hence the reason you are asking about having baby before or after you land.

If you go back after landing to have baby, you need to send canadian citizenship application to the canadian embassy in your home country. Or you can wait and move back to Canada and submit canadian citizenship once you are back in canada. However the child will not get SIN or health coverage until child has citizenship certificate.

 

[MilesAway]

screech: They do need to sponsor the child, because the Canadian parent was not born in Canada or naturalized.

I will say this for the last time: YOU CANNOT SPONSOR THE CHILD ALONE INLAND. Outland is the ONLY option. The child can be in Canada as a visitor, if it has a visa-exempt passport. You then apply to extend the stay 30 days before it expires.