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September 2020 - Citizenship Applicants

Nevine.Kassem

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I wonder if there's a point in checking multiple times a day, though. There must definitely be some sort of batch processing that happens for the tracker, instead of updates reflecting instantaneously. So if you don't see an update at any point of the day, may as well check 24 hours later after the next batch processing is done.

Disclaimer - fully understand the easier said than done part..
I wonder at what point of the day does the tracker geta updated? Is it noon?
 

harirajmohan

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Visa Office......
Sydney, NS
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-May-2015
Doc's Request.
30-Dec-2015 ReminderEmail(PCCs, NewPassport via cse 31-Dec-2015)
Nomination.....
SK 22-Apr-2015
AOR Received.
11-Aug-2015
Med's Request
23-Dec-2015
Med's Done....
20-Jan-2016
Passport Req..
26-May-2016 (BGC In Progress 25-May-2016)
VISA ISSUED...
PP Reached Ottawa:27-May-2016, Received:10-Jun-2016
LANDED..........
PR: 09-Jul-2016, PR Card: 17-Aug-2016
I wonder at what point of the day does the tracker geta updated? Is it noon?
Mostly from morning(may be 6ish or before) till noon itself whatever the cases we saw till now.
 
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rajkamalmohanram

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I wonder if there's a point in checking multiple times a day, though. There must definitely be some sort of batch processing that happens for the tracker, instead of updates reflecting instantaneously. So if you don't see an update at any point of the day, may as well check 24 hours later after the next batch processing is done.

Disclaimer - fully understand the easier said than done part..
I don't disagree. Makes complete sense but, OCD presides logic sometimes :). The same happens with me.

The thing is, I've identified 2 possible times when the update happened in my case (once before 8 AM and once around 10:30 - 11:15 AM).
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Just thinking out loud here. I realized something today - Take a look at the wording here :

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1474&top=3

Your processing time starts the day we receive your complete application and ends when we make a decision.

If you apply by mail, the processing time starts when your application arrives in our mailroom.

If you apply online or in-person, it starts when you submit your application.
So, going by this, looks like IRCC's processing time KPI can be met just by either approving or declining the application ("Decision Made" status ) within 12 months. This might mean that the applicant doesn't really need to complete oath for them to meet their processing time KPI.

If this is true, then it changes things. I mean, they could provide a "Decision Made" status before 12 months and then make applicants wait several months before scheduling them for oath.
 

nv0411

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Dec 15, 2016
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Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
05 Dec 2016
Doc's Request.
None
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
05 Dec 2016
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
Upfront
Interview........
None
Passport Req..
10 Mar 2017
VISA ISSUED...
24 Mar 2017
Just thinking out loud here. I realized something today - Take a look at the wording here :



So, going by this, looks like IRCC's processing time KPI can be met just by either approving or declining the application ("Decision Made" status ) within 12 months. This might mean that the applicant doesn't really need to complete oath for them to meet their processing time KPI.

If this is true, then it changes things. I mean, they could provide a "Decision Made" status before 12 months and then make applicants wait several months before scheduling them for oath.
They also say that none of these processing times are valid in the event of a disruption such as COVID... so "here's our KPI, but also, we're not going to meet these KPIs"...
 

Mexontario

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Sep 9, 2020
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Windsor, ON
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
App. Filed.......
02-05-2014
Doc's Request.
23-06-2014
AOR Received.
04-06-2014
File Transfer...
23-06-2014
Med's Request
23-06-2014
Med's Done....
07-08-2014
Passport Req..
26-09-2014
VISA ISSUED...
18-11-2014
LANDED..........
04-04-2015
Just thinking out loud here. I realized something today - Take a look at the wording here :



So, going by this, looks like IRCC's processing time KPI can be met just by either approving or declining the application ("Decision Made" status ) within 12 months. This might mean that the applicant doesn't really need to complete oath for them to meet their processing time KPI.

If this is true, then it changes things. I mean, they could provide a "Decision Made" status before 12 months and then make applicants wait several months before scheduling them for oath.
Also, from the tracker they are showing the application filed date as the day when they issue an AOR. Absolutely ridiculous they just do this stuff!!
 

harirajmohan

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Sydney, NS
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-May-2015
Doc's Request.
30-Dec-2015 ReminderEmail(PCCs, NewPassport via cse 31-Dec-2015)
Nomination.....
SK 22-Apr-2015
AOR Received.
11-Aug-2015
Med's Request
23-Dec-2015
Med's Done....
20-Jan-2016
Passport Req..
26-May-2016 (BGC In Progress 25-May-2016)
VISA ISSUED...
PP Reached Ottawa:27-May-2016, Received:10-Jun-2016
LANDED..........
PR: 09-Jul-2016, PR Card: 17-Aug-2016
Also, from the tracker they are showing the application filed date as the day when they issue an AOR. Absolutely ridiculous they just do this stuff!!
No wonder they changed the application filed date. This might be the reason. Easy now to fudge KPI reports to management to show greenery. :oops: :rolleyes:

They use their innovation and brain to fudge, not to improve their process/accountability. So cheap cic, damn...
 
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Hot2Cold

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Nov 16, 2014
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Okay, so I just got off call with an agent now from IRCC. According to him, the webform response was probably a false alarm because he mentioned that the documents might have been received by IRCC but someone has to manually download the file and then attach it with the application.

He said that there is very little chance that documents weren't delivered - As long as the email shows "Sent" in my inbox, he assured me that IRCC would have received the email.

I also asked about the "Scanned Files" location in my GCMS notes and he didn't know the exact answer. However, he mentioned that it appears that my file has been digitized (isn't this done at the time of AOR?). He also said that the next update would be the oath ceremony letter if physical presence validation has no issues.
Hi Raj,

Hope you had a great long weekend.

I just got my response to the Webform request and its the same response you got:

We verified the information on file and can confirm that your requested documents were not received by the responsible office yet.
I have responded back to the email request and resent the copies - this time w/o changing the subject. I have also requested that they confirm that they have received the copies. I certainly hope that the webform response is a false alarm.

My GCMS notes request is due by Aug. 7, so I should have more information then.

I'll be calling them early tomorrow morning for confirmation too.
 
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rajkamalmohanram

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Hi Raj,

Hope you had a great long weekend.

I just got my response to the Webform request and its the same response you got:



I have responded back to the email request and resent the copies - this time w/o changing the subject. I have also requested that they confirm that they have received the copies. I certainly hope that the webform response is a false alarm.

My GCMS notes request is due by Aug. 7, so I should have more information then.

I'll be calling them early tomorrow morning for confirmation too.
I'd recommend calling a few days after to confirm it. My documents were "added" to my file after about 8 - 10 days after I sent it via webform request.
 

andrew-brit

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Jan 16, 2014
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Calgary, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
London, UK
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-09-2014
Doc's Request.
15-10-2015
AOR Received.
SA: 31-10-2014 In Process: 07-09-2015
File Transfer...
31-10-2014
Med's Done....
26-08-2014 extended until 19-10-2016
Passport Req..
DM 05-12-2015
VISA ISSUED...
17-12-2015
LANDED..........
30-12-2015
I am one month away from them having my application for a year. It feels like ten years what with the pandemic!

I changed my address a week or so ago via the website. I then sent off an email just asking them to do the same. I got a boilerplate message back saying your address change has been passed on to my local office. I checked eCas today and it still shows my old home address. So they must have these address changes as pending before someone approves them.

Not even something simple that changing an address from X to Y is simple for these chumps
 

Nevine.Kassem

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I am one month away from them having my application for a year. It feels like ten years what with the pandemic!

I changed my address a week or so ago via the website. I then sent off an email just asking them to do the same. I got a boilerplate message back saying your address change has been passed on to my local office. I checked eCas today and it still shows my old home address. So they must have these address changes as pending before someone approves them.

Not even something simple that changing an address from X to Y is simple for these chumps
That's why I don't want to change my address I will make an agreement with the new owners to tell me if they got any correspondence from IRCC via mail. I am afraid changing the address will slow things down.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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I am one month away from them having my application for a year. It feels like ten years what with the pandemic!

I changed my address a week or so ago via the website. I then sent off an email just asking them to do the same. I got a boilerplate message back saying your address change has been passed on to my local office. I checked eCas today and it still shows my old home address. So they must have these address changes as pending before someone approves them.

Not even something simple that changing an address from X to Y is simple for these chumps
The quickest way to change your address would be to call them and change it over the phone. I've seen applicants mention that changing address on call is much faster and the updates happens in a few days.
 

andrew-brit

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Jan 16, 2014
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Category........
Visa Office......
London, UK
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-09-2014
Doc's Request.
15-10-2015
AOR Received.
SA: 31-10-2014 In Process: 07-09-2015
File Transfer...
31-10-2014
Med's Done....
26-08-2014 extended until 19-10-2016
Passport Req..
DM 05-12-2015
VISA ISSUED...
17-12-2015
LANDED..........
30-12-2015
That's why I don't want to change my address I will make an agreement with the new owners to tell me if they got any correspondence from IRCC via mail. I am afraid changing the address will slow things down.
The quickest way to change your address would be to call them and change it over the phone. I've seen applicants mention that changing address on call is much faster and the updates happens in a few days.
I cannot slow things down any more than they already are. It makes no difference, changing the address. The IRCC have a specific change your address wizard so it should be a normal flow an application can go through. There is no downside to changing your address. If you provide your email address in your application, all correspondence will go there.
 
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