Renounce PR remove 3 year financial responsibility?

[AutumnSkies]

Regardless of whether he just leaves or renounces his PR voluntarily, the waiting period would still stand, would it not? The whole point of the waiting period is to prevent people from sponsoring multiple spouses in a short period of time. I would assume to protect against immigration fraud.

Ah, you’re taking about the three year responsibility. I was getting that confused with the five year wait if you were sponsored yourself. My bad.

 

[scylla]

Regardless of whether he just leaves or renounces his PR voluntarily, the waiting period would still stand, would it not? The whole point of the waiting period is to prevent people from sponsoring multiple spouses in a short period of time. I would assume to protect against immigration fraud.

The three year rule is tied to the three year financial obligation that sponsors sign to support their spouse / partner after landing. It's not about multiple partner sponsorship.

Having said that, I don't know if revocation of PR removes the three year wait.

 

[AutumnSkies]

The three year rule is tied to the three year financial obligation that sponsors sign to support their spouse / partner after landing. It's not about multiple partner sponsorship.

Having said that, I don't know if revocation of PR removes the three year wait.

Yes, figured that out after rereading! I’d be curious to know as I don’t think I’ve seen a case of that before where it was up for debate.

 

[Pehsawarlove]

Does anyone have a long document that explains the rules of the 3 year rule? I’ve never been able to find a large official explanation or terms and conditions on this thing. Other than small blurbs online on non official forums.

 

[scylla]

Does anyone have a long document that explains the rules of the 3 year rule? I’ve never been able to find a large official explanation or terms and conditions on this thing. Other than small blurbs online on non official forums.

You need to run google searches for IRCC manuals. That's where the more detailed info will be. One example is below. Not sure if the info is in this one but this is the kind of document you are looking for.

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf

 

[armoured]

Does anyone have a long document that explains the rules of the 3 year rule? I’ve never been able to find a large official explanation or terms and conditions on this thing. Other than small blurbs online on non official forums.

Here's a link to the regulations (use at your own risk, I'm not a specialist).

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/page-20.html#h-687662

I do not see anything which would even provide for the possibility of terminating the undertaking early based on something like renunciation of PR status. Doesn't mean authoritatively there is no way to do so, but not encouraging.

 

[AutumnSkies]

So question then. If you’re a Canadian citizen who wasn’t sponsored yourself, there’s no waiting period so you can sponsor another spouse/partner right away if the first one doesn’t work out, right? (Don’t think the person asking about the three years who started the topic mentioned whether they’re Canadian born or naturalized citizen recently sponsored.)

But if you’re responsible for the first one for three years regardless of if you divorce them, separate, they renounce their PR, and you want to sponsor another spouse/partner in those three years. You can’t be responsible for both, can you?

 

[Pehsawarlove]

So question then. If you’re a Canadian citizen who wasn’t sponsored yourself, there’s no waiting period so you can sponsor another spouse/partner right away if the first one doesn’t work out, right? (Don’t think the person asking about the three years who started the topic mentioned whether they’re Canadian born or naturalized citizen recently sponsored.)

But if you’re responsible for the first one for three years regardless of if you divorce them, separate, they renounce their PR, and you want to sponsor another spouse/partner in those three years. You can’t be responsible for both, can you?

I am Canadian born citizen, does this mean I am not required to wait to sponsor anyone?

I actually don’t understand the terms of the sponsorship, I understood I was “financially responsible for 3 years and if he tried to collect welfare, I would have to pay it to the government”. That’s what I was told.

 

[scylla]

So question then. If you’re a Canadian citizen who wasn’t sponsored yourself, there’s no waiting period so you can sponsor another spouse/partner right away if the first one doesn’t work out, right? (Don’t think the person asking about the three years who started the topic mentioned whether they’re Canadian born or naturalized citizen recently sponsored.)

But if you’re responsible for the first one for three years regardless of if you divorce them, separate, they renounce their PR, and you want to sponsor another spouse/partner in those three years. You can’t be responsible for both, can you?

That's incorrect. There is still a three year waiting period even if you are a citizen.

You are confusing the 3 year rule with the 5 year rule.

 

[scylla]

I am Canadian born citizen, does this mean I am not required to wait to sponsor anyone?

I actually don’t understand the terms of the sponsorship, I understood I was “financially responsible for 3 years and if he tried to collect welfare, I would have to pay it to the government”. That’s what I was told.

It doesn't matter if you are a Canadian citizen or a PR, the three year rule still applies. Yes, you are required to wait 3 years to sponsor someone new.

Yes, you are financially responsible for your current husband for a period of 3 years after he lands and becomes a PR. During this time, if he goes on social assistance / welfare, you will be responsible for paying this money back to the government. During this 3 year period, you cannot sponsor another spouse / partner. Additionally, if your current husband ends up taking welfare, you will need to fully pay that money back to the government before you can qualify to sponsor a new spouse / partner after the 3 year period ends.

 

[Pehsawarlove]

Does that time start from the time he got the paper document for PR? Or the actual PR card in mail?

 

[scylla]

Does that time start from the time he got the paper document for PR? Or the actual PR card in mail?

It starts from the day he "landed" and became a PR.

So assuming he receive the PR visa while outside of Canada, the date would start when he arrived in Canada.

 

[Pehsawarlove]

He was always in Canada. He was illegal immigrant when he applied. So what would be the date then? Date applied? Date got “confirmation of eligibility for PR”, date he got his open work permit? Or date he got his confirmation of PR paper ?

 

[scylla]

He was always in Canada. He was illegal immigrant when he applied. So what would be the date then? Date applied? Date got “confirmation of eligibility for PR”, date he got his open work permit? Or date he got his confirmation of PR paper ?

The last one.

 

[canuck78]

He was always in Canada. He was illegal immigrant when he applied. So what would be the date then? Date applied? Date got “confirmation of eligibility for PR”, date he got his open work permit? Or date he got his confirmation of PR paper ?

If he was an illegal immigrant who just go their PR I’m not sure I would count on him leaving. I am still confused as to why you weren’t able to withdraw your sponsorship. You are required to withdraw your sponsorship if your relationship status changes so if you separated before he landed as a PR you should have been able to withdraw his sponsorship application easily.