Regarding Organisation

[psynergy]

Hey guys,

I'm just wondering what the rest of you have done in regards to evidence.

All three sections ask for evidence in one form or another, sometimes the same evidence, and I wondered if you made doubles (or triples) of the rent agreement, for example, and included it in each package, or if you just made a large section of evidence, numbered them, and then referred the question to the evidence section?

This goes double for when it asks for things like birth certificates, letters of employement etc. What do you do?

Cheers

 

[steerpike]

no you dont make doubles or triples of anything.

 

[truesmile]

We sent in 3 sub-envelopes, all enclosed in 1 larger envelope (not a box). The 3 sub-envelopes were basically, "her application", "my application", and "all evidence" pertaining to everything.

 

[taffy7]

I used 3 envelopes . All my documents for sponsor went in mine. All documents for my husband went in his for applicant and the 3rd one was all the rest.

I never made double or triple copies. I attached the coipies to each section with a sheet of paper indicating what i had attached . e.g.
IMM5491
SPONSOR NAME
DATE OF BIRTH WHICH CLASS FAMILY
APPLICANT NAME
DATE OF BIRTH.
# 13 Canadian Citizenship Card .
#14 photocopy of marriage certificate
#15 N/A
#16 Divorce certificate
# 17 Option C print out .
So all my documents for a sponsor was in envelope # 1


I attached that list to the front of the envelope

 

[psynergy]

I'm basing my question off of 'Appendix A' for british citizens.

number 9 states:

9 Travel Documents and Passports
Passports or travel documents for you, your spouse or common-law partner and dependent children

and number 10 states:

10 Proof of Relationship to sponsor

...if you are being sponsored by your spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner, you must send evidence of the relationship between you and your sponsor

So I'm confused as to where I put anything. Surely my sponsor's passport and such would be in her packet, but it apparently requires in my packet as well. So do I put it in the evidence packet, in that case, and just refer the reader to the evidence packet?

This is THE MOST CONTRADICTORY AND INFURIATING SET OF DOCUMENTS I'VE EVER READ

 

[mrashid123]

I'm basing my question off of 'Appendix A' for british citizens.

number 9 states:

9 Travel Documents and Passports
Passports or travel documents for you, your spouse or common-law partner and dependent children

and number 10 states:

10 Proof of Relationship to sponsor

...if you are being sponsored by your spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner, you must send evidence of the relationship between you and your sponsor

So I'm confused as to where I put anything. Surely my sponsor's passport and such would be in her packet, but it apparently requires in my packet as well. So do I put it in the evidence packet, in that case, and just refer the reader to the evidence packet?

This is THE MOST CONTRADICTORY AND INFURIATING SET OF DOCUMENTS I'VE EVER READ

No no.....ure getting a bit confused... the instructions are written so they can be applied to all immigration cases.... but in ur case u don't need to include ur spouse's passport in ur package.... since ur spouse is the sponsor.... she would include it in her's.... if u were being sponsored as a family.... meaning both u n ur spouse were applicants then u would need to include her passport in ur package.... hope that makes sense

 

[taffy7]

Appendix A is for the person who is applying, not the sponsor
# 9 so you just need to photo copy a copy of your passport or who ever is the applicant , or any dependents you have that is going on the application.
#10 Proof of relationship is a separate envelope on its own. number 3 envelope.

 

[psynergy]

Ok guys, I really need some clarification because i'm getting mixed messages.

There are sections in both the sponsor and applicant forms that ask for proof of relationship, or a photocopy of a passport etc.

Do I include the evidence in the same envelopes as the forms asking for them, or do I just refer the reader to 'Envelope C', filling said envelope with every piece of evidence requested across the board?

Also, where the hell do you find an envelope big enough for three envelopes?! I can't find one anywhere!!!!

 

[taffy7]

Stables lol ...so i am a brit and so is my husband . Where it ask for my documents like citizen divorce certificate i put in my envelope . Where it asked for my husbands passport photocopy divorce certificate , birth certificate immigration photos i put in his envelope . I labeled them each . 1/3 1) sponsor information 2 applicants information 3/ all supporting documents .. e.g. birthday cards xmas cards, letter from friend . Photos of family etc. Then i put all 3 in a large envelope that i got from staples ...You can use an envelope from the post office , or a box if you wish.

Name on each envelope , date of birth , and family class.

John Smith
20th April 1962
family class / applicant information.
Make sure you include the checklist in each envelope .Bar codes on top. Also make sure you make copies of every thing just incase.

 

[lounge]

hi taffy7, including checklist in each envelop but we have to check mark all what is enclose in the entire envelop right? i.e the checklist is going to be three for the three envelop with same check mark. Just asking because i have been thinking of how to do it, with the way CIC do say they cant see already attached document
Thanks

 

[ortom]

You only use one envelope. When CIC receives your package, whether it is in 1 envelope, 3 ore more, it doesn't matter. They throw away all the envelopes, any staples (use paper clips instead) and organize it they way they need it by a clerk, before it even gets to the IO.
You do not need to send doubles of anything.
When we sent our application we just organized it according to the checklist order. If you go through some of the popular threads (sponsorship, inland 2013, cpp ottawa) you will see that they have talked about this topic before, and organizing in different envelopes is completely unnecessary. After all cic would ask to divide it in 3 different envelopes if that was necessary.
We sent ours in one envelope, and they received it just fine.
I don't think you should worry about this too much, worry more about the quality of the information you are including, rather than how you are organizing it

Ok guys, I really need some clarification because i'm getting mixed messages.

There are sections in both the sponsor and applicant forms that ask for proof of relationship, or a photocopy of a passport etc.

Do I include the evidence in the same envelopes as the forms asking for them, or do I just refer the reader to 'Envelope C', filling said envelope with every piece of evidence requested across the board?

Also, where the hell do you find an envelope big enough for three envelopes?! I can't find one anywhere!!!!

 

[taffy7]

Lots of pepople say that they pull them apart when they get them .I believe they do . I was missing a document for my step son , which would have been in my husbands stuff and they informed me. So i wouldnt worry to much . Each to their own . As long as you got every thing on the check list do how you feel would be best for the VO TO SEE IT ALL QUICKLY. . Think if you were pulling this apart how would you like to see it and how quick would it be for them to find what they are looking for .Check out some of the threads of how to organize, mine you 1 got me so panicked, but then i took bits of info off every one and did it the way i liked it . No staples .

 

[psynergy]

Ok, we'll scrap the three envelopes.

My final question for the moment, a little off topic: Western Europe [IMM 3901] the country specific guideline thing.

Is that supposed to replace the guideline of the 'applicant' section? I'm confused because it mentions 'Sponsored relatives must follow specific instructions depending on where they live'. Does this apply to me, or do I disregard because I'm a common law partner, not a family member?

 

[taffy7]

Scrap that one. It is for the applicant only

 

[psynergy]

Wait, so I'm the applicant, but I shouldn't use Western Europe [IMM 3901] as a guide?