Reasons for Rejection

[rajkamalmohanram]

It's very scary that they are sending refusals after 5 months processing and paying RPRF.

I hoped that receiving RPRF means that application is fully eligible and only criminal issues left to be checked. But now it seems that it is not that way. Already 3 rejections after RPRF :'(

This is becoming a bad trend. This is unprecedented. This trend has come into existence recently.

 

[One_Topsy]

Waiting 5 months for a refusal is just very bad from CIC! what are they doing over there after collecting application fees?

 

[taral80]

I feel so bad for Bhullar...
I think if background check does not start after paying the rprf fees...then its a matter of concern...thats just my observation...

 

[Tocanadawego]

and again: rprf doenst mean anything ( as proven multiple times already..)

That's what I've been saying too. They asked for my RPRF even before my application was complete. I was still missing FBI PCC, and was doing additional medical tests. So clearly it doesn't mean approval.

 

[Bhullar28]

Once again, I'm very sorry. I would suggest you to not lose focus and apply again right away, this time with the proper NOC. I would be happy to help you, if the need be.

I wish you good luck and all the very best.

I would need all the help I can get to identify the right NOC code please.

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

I would need all the help I can get to identify the right NOC code please.

Send me a PM with details about your job and designation. Copy "Asivad Anac" as well. Also, send a copy of what you had sent to CIC earlier. I guess we'll be able to help you to find the correct NOC.

 

[Bhullar28]

Send me a PM with details about your job and designation. Copy "Asivad Anac" as well. Also, send a copy of what you had sent to CIC earlier. I guess we'll be able to help you to find the correct NOC.

Hi,

PFB the duties on the reference letter i shared in my application, please share your feedback on the right NOC for these 3 experiences,

Job 1 (suggested NOC 6221)
Designation: Assistant Key Accounts Manager. Duties performed in this job are as under,

Building and maintaining strong relationships in the accounts and with the distribution partners

Creating customer awareness and engagement through offers and discounts to promote the products

Developing and executing advertising strategies and promotional campaigns to meet the sales objectives and coordinate the launch of new products

Managing a team of sales representatives to promote the new and existing line of Products

Advising and coordinating the production of specialized advertising material for sales promotion of various lines of product

Advising on the artwork and packaging of products based on the market trend and demand

Analyzing the market data for opportunities, consumer trends and preferences to improve new and existing products

Forecasting demand to have the right product at the right place and time

Job 2 (suggested NOC 6231)
ICICI Lombard general insurance

Designation: Manager . Duties performed in this job are as under,

To manage, build and enhance a portfolio of accounts and clients through various marketing and sales activities

Sell personal and corporate insurance such as automobile, fire, health, life, property, marine, aircraft and other types of insurance to clients

Ensure appropriate forms, medical examinations and other policy requirements are completed

Developing, organizing and executing various advertising activities and events to launch new products and services

Provide information concerning group and individual insurance packages, the range of risk coverage, benefits paid and other policy features

Sponsoring and collaborating with various businesses to market new and existing products along with running special schemes and offers

Advertising the products and services to reach the target market through increased awareness and increasing relations through a reference model

Developing and analyzing the customer data through market research for providing better service and building strong relationships to meet sales objectives

Deciding, revising and planning the pricing, discounts and promotion of products based on the sales trend and competition

Monitor insurance claims and personally responding to clients' enquiries

Analyzing and developing new territories to market our products through marketing campaigns and references

Job 3: Airtel (suggested NOC 6221)

Designation: Territory Manager. Duties performed in this job are as under,

Managing and enhancing a portfolio of clients and channel partners along with a team of executives and service engineers

Understanding client preferences and sales patterns through market research to increase the current and future demand for new and existing products

Analyzing market data to capture various opportunities to fulfill sales objectives and provide better service to increase retention of the customer

Planning and organizing promotional campaigns and advertising events for new products, special offers, short term benefit schemes and service camps

Developing and coordinating various marketing schemes to increase the awareness, increase sales for new & existing products and capturing the competition

Holding seminars and interactive sessions to promote the benefits of new products and services in rural as well as urban sector

Advising on the pricing and advertising of marketing schemes and offers for launching new products based on market research and feedback from existing customers

Providing regular training to the executives and partners on the offers, new products being launched and various schemes

Keeping the clients and partners aligned with the objectives of the company to maintain a healthy relationship and obtain healthy sales returns

Developing and maintaining new territories and accounts to increase the customer base through marketing campaigns, channelizing the sales force and specialized
promotional schemes

 

[PiyushAgrawal06121985]

Hello Manhar, I did a quick 5 min lookup on NOC 6221 and found that what you have mentioned seems very different from what is listed on the duties expected

NOC 6221 (EXPECTED DUTIES_
•Promote sales to existing clients
•Identify and solicit potential clients
•Assess clients' needs and resources and recommend the appropriate goods or services
•Provide input into product design where goods or services must be tailored to suit clients' needs
•Develop reports and proposals as part of sales presentation to illustrate benefits from use of good or service
•Estimate costs of installing and maintaining equipment or service
•Prepare and administer sales contracts
•Consult with clients after sale to resolve problems and to provide ongoing support
•Troubleshoot technical problems related to equipment
•May train customers' staff in the operation and maintenance of equipment
•May conduct sales transactions through Internet-based electronic commerce
•May supervise the activities of other technical staff and sales specialists.

NOC 6221 [WHAT YOU SUBMITTED]

• Managing and enhancing a portfolio of clients and channel partners along with a team of executives and service engineers
• Understanding client preferences and sales patterns through market research to increase the current and future demand for new and existing products
• Analyzing market data to capture various opportunities to fulfill sales objectives and provide better service to increase retention of the customer
• Planning and organizing promotional campaigns and advertising events for new products, special offers, short term benefit schemes and service camps
• Developing and coordinating various marketing schemes to increase the awareness, increase sales for new & existing products and capturing the competition
• Holding seminars and interactive sessions to promote the benefits of new products and services in rural as well as urban sector
• Advising on the pricing and advertising of marketing schemes and offers for launching new products based on market research and feedback from existing customers
• Providing regular training to the executives and partners on the offers, new products being launched and various schemes
• Keeping the clients and partners aligned with the objectives of the company to maintain a healthy relationship and obtain healthy sales returns
• Developing and maintaining new territories and accounts to increase the customer base through marketing campaigns, channelizing the sales force and specialized

You may want to try to use the key words given in the description to build the letter.

 

[Russian]

@ Bhullar28

What you marked as 6221 actually is 0601 - Corporate Sales Manager, you chose the totally wrong NOC.

 

[Aranaszek]

Still that shouldnt take 5 months to discover. And I thought that the bureaucracy in my country sucks hard...

 

[maged_mmh]

for what's it worth, I am a telecom solution consultant too, this is what I have for NOC6221 from my employer:

Telecom Networks Solution Architect - Activities:

- Generic solutions definitions:
- analyze cutomer requirements and develop the solutions outline, components and value proposition to these requirements
- pro-active development and defense of business cases
-communicates the vision and roadmaps of products and services in a proactive way
- actively consolidate and channel customer and market feedbackon products and services portfolio towards the business groups through the organization of win-loss analysis, meeting reports...etc.
- the development and maintenance of relationships, and the setup of a formal network, at all levels within the internal business groups for its designated set of products and services and at several levels within the customer in particular in the technical/operational departments.

 

[taral80]

@ bhullar 28
Dear friend you can also send a mail to: NC-NOC-CNP-GD@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca
You need to mail them your duties and responsibilities and they will reply back within few days suggesting which NOC is best suited to you. You dont need to give your personal details, just write that please suggest me the NOC for my duties etc. And attach your duties and responsibilities...
Try it...

 

[luke-wiggsy]

I am stressing a bit about this too, now.

I was invited to apply under the FSW, with a CRS of 500+
I had 2 years work experience Chemical Engineer in a refinery before I moved to Canada, and have 3 years experience since living here.

My reference letter for my foreign work experience matches the job code perfectly, so I am not worried about that.
However, upon review of my Canadian experience reference letter, my role was more abstract in a pseudo project-manager role and I can see that my job description doesn't really match what is on the NOC that I used.

For a FSW will they focus primarily on the foreign work experience?
do you think I will have a problem if the CIC officer isn't satisfied with my Canadian experience?

 

[Han]

I am stressing a bit about this too, now.

I was invited to apply under the FSW, with a CRS of 500+
I had 2 years work experience Chemical Engineer in a refinery before I moved to Canada, and have 3 years experience since living here.

My reference letter for my foreign work experience matches the job code perfectly, so I am not worried about that.
However, upon review of my Canadian experience reference letter, my role was more abstract in a pseudo project-manager role and I can see that my job description doesn't really match what is on the NOC that I used.

For a FSW will they focus primarily on the foreign work experience?
do you think I will have a problem if the CIC officer isn't satisfied with my Canadian experience?

Did you get points for you Canadian work experience? If so, then in my opinion it should somehow match the duties listed in your NOC.

 

[lku]

Hi ,

I have recently got my ITA. When I started to proceed with filling up the application I just realized that my gender information had someway (may be i just overlooked before submitting) went in wrong i.e the gender information in the profile is wrong. Can I go ahead with submitting my application with the correct information or should I decline and make sure that the profile information is correct. Did anyone went faced similar situations ? Will it be a reason for rejection? Please help here.

Thanks...