Ray of Hope - 75th Draw

[muhammadrafay]

Sitting at 432, its been 2 weeks i submitted my profile, next month should be our's.
Lets hope for the best

on the same boat friend .. Besta luck ..

 

[Vishal-07]

On 4th January 2017 1st draw of the year CRS score was 468 and then on 31st May, 2017 CRS score came down to 413. 55 points decreased in 5 moths! Last few draws with only 2700-2800 ITAs the CRS score hardly going upper 430s. 2017 economic category target was 172,000 and for 2018 it will certainly be much higher. Do you still think it will only reach 420s in whole one year even with increased allocated immigration numbers? I am not guessing, I am using logic and facts. My strong opinion is 400 surely on the card!

I too have the same thought..dont know if it will go below 410 but hoping it does go to 300's. The game is getting more interesting. All the best

 

[The Wall]

On Monday 31 October 2016 The Guardian had published a report about the 2017 immigration plan of Canada. In that report it said that Canadian authorities have decided to make 300,000 as their baseline immigration target and also suggested to increase the annual target to 450,000 gradually over the next five years. Currently we have 300,000 targeted immigration number for this year out of which economic category is 172,000. So if they go ahead with the idea of increasing the total number to 450,000 over the next five years then we should have at least 30,000 increased total target number for 2018. Economic category should share more than 50% of that extra immigrants which should put the target number to 190,000-200,000 for 2018. We are set to know the target for 2018 by 31st October. This increased number should provide us bigger ITA size per draw, perhaps around 3500-4000. If they start issuing this number of ITAs from January, 2018 than CRS score bound to go down closer to 400 within few months and below 400 by the second half of 2018! Now those with CRS 400-430 just need to keep patience and wait just few more months after all you all are eligible to be part of the prosperous Canadian society!

May be you are right and I also hope for the same as my CRS score is 421 and waiting for ITA since last 5 months.
However, If CIC wants to take more immigrats than why they do a draw in around 20 days because in this way they can only have 60k. Sometimes this trend makes me believe that they want the CRS score above 430.
They are far behind their 2017 target so how they rich to their 2018 target? So if they put higher target and they can not do draw frequently than what's the meaning in it

 

[janenderjoshi]

Hello Friends
I am new to this forum and this is my first post, but I keep on following the thread and has found it very useful to gain an understanding and the perspectives of different persons. i have a query regarding the EE profile. I created an EE profile but it turned out to be ineligible for the pool for may be an incorrect particular but CIC gave me and wife the UCI numbers, But when I created the profile again with the correct particulars, it is accepted in the pool. Now it asks me for the question as to "Whether you have applied to CIC before?" I have answered it as "NO" and it asks me for UCI as well. So my question is Do I need to answer YES for the question and give the UCI numbers that were given in the ineligible profile creation or It should be NO as the answer and UCI numbers should be blank ?

Any suggestions on this?

 

[Doc_Abby_Zo]

Please 'search' past threads on this topic and leverage them, as you deem appropriate. Thanks.

I have already posted similar query on other threads as well, to no avail. Request members to post their responses here.

 

[Midnight Blessing]

On 4th January 2017 1st draw of the year CRS score was 468 and then on 31st May, 2017 CRS score came down to 413. 55 points decreased in 5 moths! Last few draws with only 2700-2800 ITAs the CRS score hardly going upper 430s. 2017 economic category target was 172,000 and for 2018 it will certainly be much higher. Do you still think it will only reach 420s in whole one year even with increased allocated immigration numbers? I am not guessing, I am using logic and facts. My strong opinion is 400 surely on the card!

it all depends on the Canadian government actually, whether they increase the quota or even if they do, then it depends on how much ll they increase. If CRS fall below to something around 400 then OINP program ll have to cease for a longer period in 2018 which might not be the case here, also 413 was there for only 1 week this year, isn't it? If we use logic here then, we also have to consider that end 2016 had considerably less number of aspirants compared to this year, that means the competition is rising with time and CIC is more cautious in sending invitations to the potential candidates. Also, no need to mention people, even, at 432 CRS score is waiting to receieve their ITA since June. Having said that, I really hope things become very flexible in the coming years for all the applicants and may all the hard working dreamers get that gifted PR by the end of the year.

 

[ishq74]

it all depends on the Canadian government actually, whether they increase the quota or even if they do, then it depends on how much ll they increase. If CRS fall below to something around 400 then OINP program ll have to cease for a longer period in 2018 which might not be the case here, also 413 was there for only 1 week this year, isn't it? If we use logic here then, we also have to consider that end 2016 had considerably less number of aspirants compared to this year, that means the competition is rising with time and CIC is more cautious in sending invitations to the potential candidates. Also, no need to mention people, even, at 432 CRS score is waiting to receieve their ITA since June. Having said that, I really hope things become very flexible in the coming years for all the applicants and may all the hard working dreamers get that gifted PR by the end of the year.

415 was twice on April 19 and May 17, 423 was twice on April 12 and May 4, it was about to go below 410 when they introduced new regulations in June and did only two draws in June and July but still the scores didn't go to 450. EE pool is a dynamic pool. Every day people entering and leaving the pool (profile expire, ielts expire, age increase etc.) so it is not like increasing every day. Number of people waiting at 432 since June is not necessarily increasing always, the average number is more or less same. Regular biweekly draws with 3500 ITAs will keep downward pressure on CRS score and in between back to back draws should see a steep fall on CRS score. And about competition, How many people overall joined the pool since December, 2016? I can't exactly recall but the number probably was about 50,000 and now at the end of 2017 the pool size is 61,000, not that much right? OINP will definitely re-evaluate their procedure of sending NOI if the score comes close to 400! Lets keep the hope alive and high.

 

[Jakev]

I have already posted similar query on other threads as well, to no avail. Request members to post their responses here.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/employee-reference-letter-format.475057/#post-5782802

Please see this thread and read through it- there is a format also. Leverage it as you deem appropriate.

Remember this: You've to do the heavy lifting- Don't expect forum members to spoon-feed you on every tiny thing, particularly which has been discussed in the past numerous times.

All the best !

 

[Murtuza S]

Sitting @ 428. Pushed up from 420 to 428 with wife’s ECA last week. Waited for her ECA results for over 2 months so I’m not loosing hope. There should be an ITA for me soon. Let’s hope for back to back draws to begin and things will slowly change for good

 

[andieangel]

We scouted out places to live today. Will visit the school offices tomorrow and head home. Extremely productive trip.

It sounds amazing! I wish you best of luck with your studies and getting your ITA sooner than you think!

 

[andieangel]

On Monday 31 October 2016 The Guardian had published a report about the 2017 immigration plan of Canada. In that report it said that Canadian authorities have decided to make 300,000 as their baseline immigration target and also suggested to increase the annual target to 450,000 gradually over the next five years. Currently we have 300,000 targeted immigration number for this year out of which economic category is 172,000. So if they go ahead with the idea of increasing the total number to 450,000 over the next five years then we should have at least 30,000 increased total target number for 2018. Economic category should share more than 50% of that extra immigrants which should put the target number to 190,000-200,000 for 2018. We are set to know the target for 2018 by 31st October. This increased number should provide us bigger ITA size per draw, perhaps around 3500-4000. If they start issuing this number of ITAs from January, 2018 than CRS score bound to go down closer to 400 within few months and below 400 by the second half of 2018! Now those with CRS 400-430 just need to keep patience and wait just few more months after all you all are eligible to be part of the prosperous Canadian society!

Thank you for your logic and sharing hope, I agree completely! I also think it will happen like you described!

 

[Nabs17]

Hello Friends
I am new to this forum and this is my first post, but I keep on following the thread and has found it very useful to gain an understanding and the perspectives of different persons. i have a query regarding the EE profile. I created an EE profile but it turned out to be ineligible for the pool for may be an incorrect particular but CIC gave me and wife the UCI numbers, But when I created the profile again with the correct particulars, it is accepted in the pool. Now it asks me for the question as to "Whether you have applied to CIC before?" I have answered it as "NO" and it asks me for UCI as well. So my question is Do I need to answer YES for the question and give the UCI numbers that were given in the ineligible profile creation or It should be NO as the answer and UCI numbers should be blank ?

Are you sure the number you got were UCI #s. Usually CIC does not issue UCI number at the EE application stage. It is issued in the post ITA process.
The only other way for you to have a UCI # is if you have applied for any kind of Canadian visa before. In that case you should mention that number as it does not change for an applicant ever.
Remember the UCI # is usually an eight digit number in the following format 1234-5678
Hope that helps
Best of luck

 

[Midnight Blessing]

415 was twice on April 19 and May 17, 423 was twice on April 12 and May 4, it was about to go below 410 when they introduced new regulations in June and did only two draws in June and July but still the scores didn't go to 450. EE pool is a dynamic pool. Every day people entering and leaving the pool (profile expire, ielts expire, age increase etc.) so it is not like increasing every day. Number of people waiting at 432 since June is not necessarily increasing always, the average number is more or less same. Regular biweekly draws with 3500 ITAs will keep downward pressure on CRS score and in between back to back draws should see a steep fall on CRS score. And about competition, How many people overall joined the pool since December, 2016? I can't exactly recall but the number probably was about 50,000 and now at the end of 2017 the pool size is 61,000, not that much right? OINP will definitely re-evaluate their procedure of sending NOI if the score comes close to 400! Lets keep the hope alive and high.

I just want every golden hearted people here in this thread to get an ITA and subsequently their PR asap.LETS EVERYONE PRAY FOR US ALL HUH !
Lets brace our Canadian dreams with our prestine soul....lets the ray of hope shine brightest than the Sun

anyway thanks to you bro for your detailed analysis

 

[SGtoCAD]

bro, this won't go that low for sure, especially considering more and more people are getting attracted to make the PR application of Canada and also many people are retaking IELTS to improve their score and no need to mention the hoarde of applicants preparing for the IELTS exam to reach that elusive CLB 9 threshold. However, if the quota rises, then surely it might come down to 420 ,at best, in 2018. So, I think its better to be in the safe side by assuming it to be like that, but again, I also want it to go below 400 for my fellow freinds

Well Knowing CIC, Anything can happen. Anything is Possible..

 

[vensak]

415 was twice on April 19 and May 17, 423 was twice on April 12 and May 4, it was about to go below 410 when they introduced new regulations in June and did only two draws in June and July but still the scores didn't go to 450. EE pool is a dynamic pool. Every day people entering and leaving the pool (profile expire, ielts expire, age increase etc.) so it is not like increasing every day. Number of people waiting at 432 since June is not necessarily increasing always, the average number is more or less same. Regular biweekly draws with 3500 ITAs will keep downward pressure on CRS score and in between back to back draws should see a steep fall on CRS score. And about competition, How many people overall joined the pool since December, 2016? I can't exactly recall but the number probably was about 50,000 and now at the end of 2017 the pool size is 61,000, not that much right? OINP will definitely re-evaluate their procedure of sending NOI if the score comes close to 400! Lets keep the hope alive and high.

How about to check the number of ITA sent out during that time compared to the number of ITA for the same period of time in 2016. (as they have issued more ITA in first 9 months of 2017) significantly more than in whole year 2016. That alone will indicate the increasing amount of interest there.
In addition your estimation is a decent increase already from 50k to 61k is a 20% yearly increase which is not little at all.
In addition ITA is influenced:
1. The size of the yearly quota
2. The size of the average family (as the quota is speaking about nr. of immigrants but not about nr. of applications)
3. The % of not used. cancelled or rejected application. (simply said, the more prepared people are and the less mistakes they made in their application, the lower this % will).
While you know the quota in advance, the size of the families and the % of failure is only known at the end of each measured period (for example every quarter or every year). So when they are issuing ITA, they are using the % from the past in order to project the correct amount for the future. Hence if they see, that at the end of next measured period they have invited too few people they will increase the invitation (what we have seen in the first half of 2017 when they compared with 2016). But if they see that they have invited too many, they will cut down.
Eventually the % of failures tends to go down (as people will get familiar with the new system which will result in less mistakes in the applications).
So the positive effect would be the quota increase while the negative effect would be any stagnation or decrease of this quota. Same goes for the family size.