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steaky

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Could you please give more information about it?
If you have a passport that allows you to travel to the US without a visa, you can fly directly from your home country to a US city (like Buffalo). From Buffalo, take a taxi to the Rainbow bridge border and walk across until you reach Canada. Show your expired PR card and CBSA officer should let you in. After monday, you would need a PCR test in the US.
 

jakklondon

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Oct 17, 2021
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I saw on this forum that even with emergency letter they are taking time for PR renewal and PRTD is hell too.

So basically you are at the MERCY OF IRCC.
I thought the same, but some members, like @CaBeaver , assert that they have a system in Canada similar to the US, if you have a real urgency (a kind of urgency that Canadian immigration recognizes as such) , they will process your application in short order. I would suggest you search this forum where it's discussed, or post a specific query (i.e. Which urgent matters are recognized by Canadian immigration for fast processing of PR renewal or travel document? and etc.) .
 

anildelhi7

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Dec 3, 2021
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If you have a passport that allows you to travel to the US without a visa, you can fly directly from your home country to a US city (like Buffalo). From Buffalo, take a taxi to the Rainbow bridge border and walk across until you reach Canada. Show your expired PR card and CBSA officer should let you in. After monday, you would need a PCR test in the US.
I have US tourist visa..do they check residency obligation as well? I have copr and expired pr card.. appreciate your reply..
 

dpenabill

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I can calm you down. My daughter has been waiting since August 2019. And nobody cares about it.
But she was NOT eligible for a new PR card at the time that application was made. That alone makes it, well, very DIFFERENT. That situation illuminates rather little, and more likely NOTHING, about the routine or typical timeline for PR card applications.

I grasp her situation, understand your frustrations, and am sympathetic. As I have observed before, among some rather extensive observations about several aspects of the situation, even though the initial problem was the Residency Obligation breach, and being inadmissible on the face of things, and otherwise NOT eligible to be issued a new PR card when she made the application, what you have reported about the ongoing situation suggests there is a significant likelihood some other issue is now the problem, and that the SAFE approach would be to consult with a lawyer. In any event, however, it is very much an individual case caught in its own particular processing issues and is in NO WAY relevant to general discussions about processing timelines.

By the way, unlike some advice offered in the discussion in the other thread, my suggestion to see a lawyer is NOT about pursuing Mandamus. There is enough risk lurking in her situation that it would be wise to have a lawyer review all the paperwork she submitted with the application, including a copy of the application of course, and review all the aspects of her situation and status, to figure out (as best it can be done) what has happened, what is happening, what is at stake. A GCMS records request, more in-depth than the generic request for a copy of personal GCMS records, may be needed and at the least would be a good idea.

About the only aspect of your daughter's situation that is relevant for the discussion in this thread is that it is one more reminder why the conventional wisdom is so adamant that PRs who have breached the PR RO should wait until they have been IN Canada for more than 730 days within the previous five years BEFORE making a new PR card application.
 

jakklondon

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I have US tourist visa..do they check residency obligation as well? I have copr and expired pr card.. appreciate your reply..
If you are asking about US, the US doesn't care about your RO in foreign country. But it will report to Canada your entry, and Canada will report US your entry into Canada (this is how Triple Hermetic Secret Worshippers keep the borders sealed and protected from legal PRs. Never mind thousands of illegal aliens who cross the border undetected and pose all kinds of security threat).

Anyway, if you are on US soil and want to cross into Canada, all you need is valid PR status and a COPR. If you have no RO issues, you will pass without any report.
 
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Aleks30

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Oct 1, 2021
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what you have reported about the ongoing situation suggests there is a significant likelihood some other issue is now the problem,
What are you talking about?
When a question arises, the question is asked!
My daughter's case at the local office WASN'T EVEN OPENED!
The application was not even considered at the local office!
She hasn't received a single call, not a single message from the local office AT ALL in 2.5 years!
The daughter marked the check boxing in the application that allows to check EVERYTHING !
Taxes, salaries, border crossing, any information.
Hides nothing!
There is no need to look for problems where they do not exist.
No need to fantasize.
 

jakklondon

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Oct 17, 2021
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What are you talking about?
When a question arises, the question is asked!
My daughter's case at the local office WASN'T EVEN OPENED!
The application was not even considered at the local office!
She hasn't received a single call, not a single message from the local office AT ALL in 2.5 years!
There is no need to look for problems where they do not exist.
No need to fantasize.
We have a phrase "kiss up, kick down". Some people are embodiment of that principle (that's how they live their lives and move up career ladder). Don't expect honesty and empathy from those types.

I agree with you, if there is a question - ASK. We had problem of delayed immigration processing of citizenship applications during Triple Hermetic Secret Worshipping Bush Jr. years, which among others affected military service men who were fighting a war on behalf of the US overseas, and I used to say: DENY THE FREAKING APPLICAITON, IF APPLICANT IS NOT DESERVING A BENEFIT. OR, GRANT IT, IF THEY DO! Why delay decision making for YEARS?

Also note: I didn't tell you what to do (you and your daughter decide how she approaches her impasse). I told you that there is Mandamus Act, the ONLY thing that can FORCE government bureaucrats to rule on her application. But I don't know for sure if you can file one to get PR renewed (I believe you can. but I am not sure). I also warned you that Mandamus Act will not necessarily result in grant of benefit, it will result in government acting on the application submitted, and that could mean approval or denial.


 

Sam_1986

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Jul 22, 2019
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But she was NOT eligible for a new PR card at the time that application was made. That alone makes it, well, very DIFFERENT. That situation illuminates rather little, and more likely NOTHING, about the routine or typical timeline for PR card applications.

I grasp her situation, understand your frustrations, and am sympathetic. As I have observed before, among some rather extensive observations about several aspects of the situation, even though the initial problem was the Residency Obligation breach, and being inadmissible on the face of things, and otherwise NOT eligible to be issued a new PR card when she made the application, what you have reported about the ongoing situation suggests there is a significant likelihood some other issue is now the problem, and that the SAFE approach would be to consult with a lawyer. In any event, however, it is very much an individual case caught in its own particular processing issues and is in NO WAY relevant to general discussions about processing timelines.

By the way, unlike some advice offered in the discussion in the other thread, my suggestion to see a lawyer is NOT about pursuing Mandamus. There is enough risk lurking in her situation that it would be wise to have a lawyer review all the paperwork she submitted with the application, including a copy of the application of course, and review all the aspects of her situation and status, to figure out (as best it can be done) what has happened, what is happening, what is at stake. A GCMS records request, more in-depth than the generic request for a copy of personal GCMS records, may be needed and at the least would be a good idea.

About the only aspect of your daughter's situation that is relevant for the discussion in this thread is that it is one more reminder why the conventional wisdom is so adamant that PRs who have breached the PR RO should wait until they have been IN Canada for more than 730 days within the previous five years BEFORE making a new PR card application.
Thank you for your detailed answer. I really appreciate you care.
As I said i applied for PR renewal on December 2019 (I had 7 days short of RO at that time). sent another application on Sept 22, 2021 (i met RO this time) and i havent received AOR for the new application yet. Also, i didnt withdraw the old application.

i just figured out that I can apply for citizenship although my PR card is expired. Now, my question is that do you think I should withdraw PR renewal applications and wait for citizenship? Or I dont touch anything and see which application process faster? Do you think pr renewal applications delay the citizenship process?

i am looking to find best course of action in my case.
 

Sam_1986

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Jul 22, 2019
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I can calm you down. My daughter has been waiting since August 2019. And nobody cares about it.
It seems like the only solution is to just go to the police station - and state that you won't go anywhere unless an immigration officer or the media is provided.
Funny - but this is the decision.
You were not deprived of PR status (and the validity of the permanent resident card is just a PR card)
In Canada - the left hand does not know what it is doing - the right hand.
The law says that you need the required number of days to obtain citizenship (and not a permanent resident card).
And this is noted separately.
To obtain citizenship, you do not need PRcard.
Thank you for your detailed answer. I really appreciate you care.
As I said i applied for PR renewal on December 2019 (I had 7 days short of RO at that time). sent another application on Sept 22, 2021 (i met RO this time) and i havent received AOR for the new application yet. Also, i didnt withdraw the old application.

i just figured out that I can apply for citizenship although my PR card is expired. Now, my question is that do you think I should withdraw PR renewal applications and wait for citizenship? Or I dont touch anything and see which application process faster? Do you think pr renewal applications delay the citizenship process?

i am looking to find best course of action in my case.
 

anildelhi7

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Dec 3, 2021
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Thank you for your detailed answer. I really appreciate you care.
As I said i applied for PR renewal on December 2019 (I had 7 days short of RO at that time). sent another application on Sept 22, 2021 (i met RO this time) and i havent received AOR for the new application yet. Also, i didnt withdraw the old application.

i just figured out that I can apply for citizenship although my PR card is expired. Now, my question is that do you think I should withdraw PR renewal applications and wait for citizenship? Or I dont touch anything and see which application process faster? Do you think pr renewal applications delay the citizenship process?

i am looking to find best course of action in my case.
You should withdraw the first application not the one which you sent in September..
 

Aleks30

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Oct 1, 2021
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Until your permanent resident status is taken away from you, you ARE a permanent resident of Canada.
AND this is the main rule.
The passport issuing service does not care at all about the delay in issuing a PR card.
Maybe a resident of Canada does not want a Pr card at all.
This is his right.
Nobody will start to find out why the card was not issued ... and for so long.
Has the person been deprived of their status? -Not.
So he is a legal resident of Canada? -Yes.
Does he have enough days (3 years)? -Yes.
Have a criminal record? -No.
These are the main conditions for obtaining citizenship.
Another thing is that Canadians themselves are in no hurry to obtain citizenship.
Not everyone is willing to pay $ 600-800.
What for?
If all you get is the extra right to vote. :)