PGWP holders and LMIA (part of EE profile details)

[zardoz]

Actually, I just recheked the new rules and apparently there ARE NO exceptions for LIMA exemption this time. The exemptions used to be valid under the old FSW system. Here's the link:



Thank you for response ! I totally agree with your message, So the question is do I need to get a LIMA from my employer now? if so Iam in a contract position now and I dont think they will do it for me.

If you want the 600 points, yes.

 

[namaste]

Actually, I just recheked the new rules and apparently there ARE NO exceptions for LIMA exemption this time. The exemptions used to be valid under the old FSW system. Here's the link:



Thank you for response ! I totally agree with your message, So the question is do I need to get a LIMA from my employer now? if so Iam in a contract position now and I dont think they will do it for me.

Yes, that is if you want to claim the 600 points for a valid job offer. Also, remember that there is no charge for applying to LMIA for your employer, so that might be a motivation for them. In any case, if you have more than 400/450 points without a valid job offer, then you still stand a good chance of getting an invitation.

 

[TrackIT]

namaste and zardoz,
Thank you guys for your suggestions ! this whole process itself is painfull

 

[zardoz]

namaste and zardoz,
Thank you guys for your suggestions ! this whole process itself is painfull

I get the impression that it's supposed to be. It's now highly competitive rather than being just a "rubber stamp" on a correctly filled out application. I suspect that this is to reduce the number of doctors and dentists driving cabs.

 

[Scaroz]

Oh well..whatever. You should search for a definition of a qualifying job offer. You can leave it your way if it makes you feel better, it doesn't benefit you at all though.

Then why we should creat a profile in a job bank if we already having a job offer .
Doesn't make sense ,

 

[gibinv]

Then why we should creat a profile in a job bank if we already having a job offer .
Doesn't make sense ,

its intended for people who don't have a job offer.

 

[AAA2133]

Hello Everyone,

I am a holder of the Post Graduate Work Permit .. and as many of you know it's an open work permit with no LMIA number or any limitation to an employer.

My question is for Intended Work in Canada - LMIA section

Was a positive Labour Market Information Assessment (LMIA) issued for the job offer in Canada?

NO

Is (First Name Last Name) currently working in Canada?

For me .. yes I am.

Does (First Name Last Name) have a valid work permit for the current job in Canada?

Yes I do. The PGWP.

Is (First Name Last Name) job offer from the employer named on the current work permit?

No .. because the PGWP is an open work permit, and for employer section it says ANY.

Four digit NOC code of current work permit

There is no NOC code on my work permit .. so what do I write here??

Was a positive Labour Market Information Assessment (LMIA) issued for the current work permit?

Again .. No

This section is confusing. Any help would be appreciated.

Best would be to wait for CIC to clarify. For now, I submitted my profile given NO to job offer question though I've been working full-time since DEC2013 assuming they mean an assessed offer. I'll update my profile once more information published.

 

[Froze950]

Hello AAA,

I am in the same situation. I have a job offer but not LMIA approved ( as of yet ). I have to select no job offer right? and I can update later whenever I get a positive LMIA.

So you have submitted your profile saying you do not have a job offer.

My question is that did you have to make a Job bank account as well and do the same steps as every FSW guy is doing??

 

[AAA2133]

Hello AAA,

I am in the same situation. I have a job offer but not LMIA approved ( as of yet ). I have to select no job offer right? and I can update later whenever I get a positive LMIA.

So you have submitted your profile saying you do not have a job offer.

My question is that did you have to make a Job bank account as well and do the same steps as every FSW guy is doing??

Yes, I answered NO for now to submit my profile (since there's no NOC code written on my permit) but I think CIC will clarify the issue in coming weeks. To be honest, I don't have any plan to do the assessment and I think it's legally complicated. I may look into the nomination option if I cannot get an invitation by March.
Yes, you need to create one unless you are either a positive LMIA holder or a province nominee.

 

[Scaroz]

Yes, I answered NO for now to submit my profile (since there's no NOC code written on my permit) but I think CIC will clarify the issue in coming weeks. To be honest, I don't have any plan to do the assessment and I think it's legally complicated. I may look into the nomination option if I cannot get an invitation by March.
Yes, you need to create one unless you are either a positive LMIA holder or a province nominee.

If you are working , that means you have a job offer ,
Refer to their website

Federal Skilled Workers and Canadian Experience Class
A valid job offer has to be:

for continuous, paid, full-time work (at least 30 hours a week),
for work that is permanent and not seasonal,
skill type 0, or skill levels A or B of the 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC)
and either:

the employer making you the job offer must have a positive Labour Market Impact Assessment from Employment and Social Development Canada OR
you are currently working in Canada in a NOC 0, A or B job on a work permit that was issued based on a Labour Market Impact Assessment, and
you are working for an employer listed on your work permit,
you are authorized to work in Canada on the day you apply for a permanent resident visa, and when the visa is issued, and
your current employer made you an offer to give you a full-time job if you are accepted as a permanent resident.
In other words, your job offer is valid, whether you are working in Canada or not, if your current or prospective employer:

has made an offer to give you a full-time job for at least one year if you are accepted as a permanent resident, and
has a positive Labour Market Impact Assessment from ESDC.
The only time the employer making you the offer does not need to get a new LMIA is when you are already working for them with a work permit that is based on an LMIA.

cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/offer.asp

 

[dukhi]

If you are working , that means you have a job offer ,
Refer to their website

Federal Skilled Workers and Canadian Experience Class
A valid job offer has to be:

for continuous, paid, full-time work (at least 30 hours a week),
for work that is permanent and not seasonal,
skill type 0, or skill levels A or B of the 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC)
and either:

the employer making you the job offer must have a positive Labour Market Impact Assessment from Employment and Social Development Canada OR
you are currently working in Canada in a NOC 0, A or B job on a work permit that was issued based on a Labour Market Impact Assessment, and
you are working for an employer listed on your work permit,
you are authorized to work in Canada on the day you apply for a permanent resident visa, and when the visa is issued, and
your current employer made you an offer to give you a full-time job if you are accepted as a permanent resident.
In other words, your job offer is valid, whether you are working in Canada or not, if your current or prospective employer:

has made an offer to give you a full-time job for at least one year if you are accepted as a permanent resident, and
has a positive Labour Market Impact Assessment from ESDC.
The only time the employer making you the offer does not need to get a new LMIA is when you are already working for them with a work permit that is based on an LMIA.

cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/offer.asp

Hi Scaroz,

I am a bit confused still...I am working on my PGWP for last one year without any LMIA...Would that count as a valid job offer under what you posted above??

 

[zardoz]

Hi Scaroz,

I am a bit confused still...I am working on my PGWP for last one year without any LMIA...Would that count as a valid job offer under what you posted above??

No. You MUST have an LMIA for it to count.

 

[Caimi]

This is actually confusing

If you are working in Canada for more than 1 year with an LMIA exempt WP with valid NOC, I understand you will not get 600 points for valid job offer but does it mean that you will not get Canadian work-ex points under core and skill transferability factors as well ? or you will get those points....

 

[AAA2133]

This is actually confusing

If you are working in Canada for more than 1 year with an LMIA exempt WP with valid NOC, I understand you will not get 600 points for valid job offer but does it mean that you will not get Canadian work-ex points under core and skill transferability factors as well ? or you will get those points....

You'll get points for Canadian Experience

 

[jfalvitez]

Yes, me and my wife are on the same boat, job offer with PGWP working in Canada, but without a LMIA, I think we all the international students must starts to send the letter to the CIC as soon as possible and complain about this, maybe we can get a better solution, and make the way easiest its true we spent a lot of money in this country, paying taxes, etc etc, and our way is always harder than people as the refugees for example, they have everyting easy here in Canada!!! we must start to send our complain letters...