Paying just 1 of the fees first

[Saffy]

HI everyone,

When I send in my application, if I just pay the 550, is this ok? Or do you recommend I pay the full 1040 straight? What are the pros and cons of not paying it in full in the beginning... because what if they reject the application of sponsorship and then you can't get it back? Someone give advice? thanks

 

[smokijoe]

You can pay in 2 instalments as you queried or you can pay 1040 in one go. If you pay in 2 instalments, your processing can be delayed by up to 2 months. if you pay full fees and the application is rejected CIC will refund you the portion of the fess that is due to you.

 

[Saffy]

it will still be delayed even if I pay with mastercard online?

also, when they ask me for the second payment...will they notify me by email or by postmail? bc if its by email, and i pay with mastercard it would be quick... what do you think?

and around how many months after (they accept my sponsorship) would they ask for the second half of the payments?

 

[parker24]

it will still be delayed even if I pay with mastercard online?

also, when they ask me for the second payment...will they notify me by email or by postmail? bc if its by email, and i pay with mastercard it would be quick... what do you think?

and around how many months after (they accept my sponsorship) would they ask for the second half of the payments?

Re: Second part

No. It's not going to be quick. They have to match your payment with your application which requires digging. They will put your application on HOLD until you pay, then they go back to dig for your application make sure you paid it right. But it doesn't mean that they do it the second they get your payment. They do it when they get a free minute/hour/day. I honestly would pay it all up-front. It would be less of a hassle for both parties and no delays. But that's just my opinion.

 

[gypsy494]

If at all possible pay the complete thing......from what we have repeatly have seen on here there are months of a delay.
And also have seen where it was payed in two installments ( before they needed it) AND still asked for payment.
It just seems like if they do not have it all in your orig file ...it ends up an issue.( time wise)
Do the best you can....if you simply cannot...then pay online later print out rct AND FAX AND MAIL copies of the rct.
Good Luck!

 

[sarinavene]

Hi, this is an issue that I have seen come up twice in the past week or so that people have asked about, and honestly, I don't know why people are saying that NOT paying both fees will delay the application by two months? Is there anyone on this forum whom this has actually happened to? Or are we just surmising? I would think that, if a person has only paid $550 and then later sent the second fee, and their application is delayed by 2 months, it is probably due to some other problem with their application, OR because of their method of payment. Some methods of payment are naturally quicker than others.

Paying by credit card is instantaneous and electronic, so I don't believe they would have to go "digging" for anything, like if you mailed them a bank order. If they contact you to ask for the fee, and you pay it that day with the credit card and fax the receipt, they have no excuse for holding up anyone's application for 2 months.

Furthermore, do people actually realize that, by paying both fees up front, you are potentially LOANING the Canadian government that money, free of interest?? Because they could decide to turn down your application for sponsorship, and then you have to wait for them to decide to refund your money. And judging by the LONG wait times for processing stage 1 (3 months) you would be out of pocket the second fee for all that time.

I sent in my application March 21, with one fee of $550. I am planning to pay the second fee by credit card by the end of this month. When I make the payment, I will fax the receipt to them AND email it AND send the original in the mail. So they will have no excuse to say "Where is it?" Right now they are still working on January applications, so they will not be processing mine until June at least. So both my fees will be in before they process me. Sending it in one month after the rest of the application will not make a difference; it will all be there when it comes to my turn.

 

[parker24]

Hi, this is an issue that I have seen come up twice in the past week or so that people have asked about, and honestly, I don't know why people are saying that NOT paying both fees will delay the application by two months? Is there anyone on this forum whom this has actually happened to? Or are we just surmising? I would think that, if a person has only paid $550 and then later sent the second fee, and their application is delayed by 2 months, it is probably due to some other problem with their application, OR because of their method of payment. Some methods of payment are naturally quicker than others.

Paying by credit card is instantaneous and electronic, so I don't believe they would have to go "digging" for anything, like if you mailed them a bank order. If they contact you to ask for the fee, and you pay it that day with the credit card and fax the receipt, they have no excuse for holding up anyone's application for 2 months.

Furthermore, do people actually realize that, by paying both fees up front, you are potentially LOANING the Canadian government that money, free of interest?? Because they could decide to turn down your application for sponsorship, and then you have to wait for them to decide to refund your money. And judging by the LONG wait times for processing stage 1 (3 months) you would be out of pocket the second fee for all that time.

I sent in my application March 21, with one fee of $550. I am planning to pay the second fee by credit card by the end of this month. When I make the payment, I will fax the receipt to them AND email it AND send the original in the mail. So they will have no excuse to say "Where is it?" Right now they are still working on January applications, so they will not be processing mine until June at least. So both my fees will be in before they process me. Sending it in one month after the rest of the application will not make a difference; it will all be there when it comes to my turn.

It happened to SEVERAL people. They will set your application aside until you pay. No matter HOW you pay, they set your application aside and work on someone else's. People who only send the first part will get delayed. It's not just "assumed".

 

[muffy1]

We waited to pay the ROPR Fee and sent our app in without paying this. We received a letter in Dec asking to pay this fee, along with submitting our FBI check. We paid the fee online a week later via credit card and sent copies of receipt to both offices. Still waiting to hear anything on this. I firmly believe if you have everything needed done upfront, it helps to process app quicker. Not an expert, just my opinion after reading and researching.

Hi, this is an issue that I have seen come up twice in the past week or so that people have asked about, and honestly, I don't know why people are saying that NOT paying both fees will delay the application by two months? Is there anyone on this forum whom this has actually happened to? Or are we just surmising? I would think that, if a person has only paid $550 and then later sent the second fee, and their application is delayed by 2 months, it is probably due to some other problem with their application, OR because of their method of payment. Some methods of payment are naturally quicker than others.

Paying by credit card is instantaneous and electronic, so I don't believe they would have to go "digging" for anything, like if you mailed them a bank order. If they contact you to ask for the fee, and you pay it that day with the credit card and fax the receipt, they have no excuse for holding up anyone's application for 2 months.

Furthermore, do people actually realize that, by paying both fees up front, you are potentially LOANING the Canadian government that money, free of interest?? Because they could decide to turn down your application for sponsorship, and then you have to wait for them to decide to refund your money. And judging by the LONG wait times for processing stage 1 (3 months) you would be out of pocket the second fee for all that time.

I sent in my application March 21, with one fee of $550. I am planning to pay the second fee by credit card by the end of this month. When I make the payment, I will fax the receipt to them AND email it AND send the original in the mail. So they will have no excuse to say "Where is it?" Right now they are still working on January applications, so they will not be processing mine until June at least. So both my fees will be in before they process me. Sending it in one month after the rest of the application will not make a difference; it will all be there when it comes to my turn.

 

[smokijoe]

The delay of 2 months when not paying all fees with application comes from CIC. If one read the guide regarding the payment of fees it will state that fact there.

 

[sarinavene]

Muffy, I am so sorry that happened to you! You are well within your rights to kick up a storm with CIC! Do NOT let them get away with it! I can only encourage you by saying, call EVERY DAY until they get tired of hearing from you, and they'll get it sorted for you. Get the MP involved if you have to. That's what I intend to do if they give me any grief about my RPRF. I used to work in a government office, and I know, this is the only way to get things done with them.

Smokijoe, I did read the guide myself, and I do not recall it saying that there is a 2-month wait if the fee is not paid. Can you please refer us to that section or page? From my recollection, the guide says that including the fee may help to expedite the application, but nothing about a delay of 2 months.

In any case, what right does the Canadian government have to discriminate against someone on the basis of their income or how much money they have? That is not what spousal immigration is about! If a person only has the $550 one month and then the rest of the fee later on, they should not be discriminated against or pushed aside for other applicants with more money!

Remember also that the TOTAL COST of this process is way more than $1040 -what about the cost of preparing documents/ photos/ certified copies and courier fees? What about the cost of paying for medicals which are not covered by insurance? CIC needs to take all these things into account and realize that if a person can only pay $550, it is CIC's responsibility to help them by not pushing them aside when they can prove that they have finally paid. If fees are the most important thing to CIC, and not helping others, then they might as well allow people to BUY their way to a faster processing time - pay an extra $500 and we'll guarantee you approval in one month!

 

[muffy1]

Hi Sarinavene-
I contacted our MP but they said they can't do anything as our app is still within normal processing times. Though, I appreciate you trying to help! I'm just hopeful our time will come to hear something soon. All the best to you!

Muffy, I am so sorry that happened to you! You are well within your rights to kick up a storm with CIC! Do NOT let them get away with it! I can only encourage you by saying, call EVERY DAY until they get tired of hearing from you, and they'll get it sorted for you. Get the MP involved if you have to. That's what I intend to do if they give me any grief about my RPRF. I used to work in a government office, and I know, this is the only way to get things done with them.

Smokijoe, I did read the guide myself, and I do not recall it saying that there is a 2-month wait if the fee is not paid. Can you please refer us to that section or page? From my recollection, the guide says that including the fee may help to expedite the application, but nothing about a delay of 2 months.

In any case, what right does the Canadian government have to discriminate against someone on the basis of their income or how much money they have? That is not what spousal immigration is about! If a person only has the $550 one month and then the rest of the fee later on, they should not be discriminated against or pushed aside for other applicants with more money!

Remember also that the TOTAL COST of this process is way more than $1040 -what about the cost of preparing documents/ photos/ certified copies and courier fees? What about the cost of paying for medicals which are not covered by insurance? CIC needs to take all these things into account and realize that if a person can only pay $550, it is CIC's responsibility to help them by not pushing them aside when they can prove that they have finally paid. If fees are the most important thing to CIC, and not helping others, then they might as well allow people to BUY their way to a faster processing time - pay an extra $500 and we'll guarantee you approval in one month!

 

[Lasiar]

Hi, this is an issue that I have seen come up twice in the past week or so that people have asked about, and honestly, I don't know why people are saying that NOT paying both fees will delay the application by two months? Is there anyone on this forum whom this has actually happened to? Or are we just surmising? I would think that, if a person has only paid $550 and then later sent the second fee, and their application is delayed by 2 months, it is probably due to some other problem with their application, OR because of their method of payment. Some methods of payment are naturally quicker than others.

Paying by credit card is instantaneous and electronic, so I don't believe they would have to go "digging" for anything, like if you mailed them a bank order. If they contact you to ask for the fee, and you pay it that day with the credit card and fax the receipt, they have no excuse for holding up anyone's application for 2 months.

Furthermore, do people actually realize that, by paying both fees up front, you are potentially LOANING the Canadian government that money, free of interest?? Because they could decide to turn down your application for sponsorship, and then you have to wait for them to decide to refund your money. And judging by the LONG wait times for processing stage 1 (3 months) you would be out of pocket the second fee for all that time.

I sent in my application March 21, with one fee of $550. I am planning to pay the second fee by credit card by the end of this month. When I make the payment, I will fax the receipt to them AND email it AND send the original in the mail. So they will have no excuse to say "Where is it?" Right now they are still working on January applications, so they will not be processing mine until June at least. So both my fees will be in before they process me. Sending it in one month after the rest of the application will not make a difference; it will all be there when it comes to my turn.

I agree, We paid our first portion of the processing fee with the application, which was in September and we sent the other RPRF In January, both were paid online by credit card.. I called in mid February to make sure the second fee was received by the processing VO and it has been. No problems, no issues thus far in that regards.

Best of luck with your application.

 

[smokijoe]

Page 25 of the guide under the Heading "Fees"
Ok, I was reading a quote from an older guide which I used when I applied last year August, but the newer version of the guide says

2. The Right of Permanent Residence Fee, which will be requested by CIC at a later stage if your application is approved.

Note. We strongly recommend paying the Right of Permanent Residence Fee along with your processing fees. By doing so, it will reduce the processing time of your application.

 

[awor]

I've seen dozens of posters that have had their timelines delayed 2-6 MONTHS because they split the payments up. If you can do it, pay it all up front, even if you have to save up for a bit to afford it.