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Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship - Income requirements

nayr69sg

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Would you have to wait 2 years to hear that you are refused? So no chance of knowing before 2022? Because if I have to wait 2 years, to hear back and THEN apply, it will be too late I am afraid. Then it would make sense to not apply at all now and just wait for next year when I can be sure that if selected, my application will be approved.
Oh yeah I forgo about that.

It might take up to 5 years for a reply. And if you got another spot in the coming lotteries they will say sorry you already have a file in process.

Yeah I guess it is best not to apply then.

Sigh if only you had worked out this misunderstanding before submitting the ITA! Someone else could have taken the spot.

Oh well.

Actually this PGP lottery sounds like a lot of fun. And it's free!
 

YVR123

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Would you have to wait 2 years to hear that you are refused? So no chance of knowing before 2022? Because if I have to wait 2 years, to hear back and THEN apply, it will be too late I am afraid. Then it would make sense to not apply at all now and just wait for next year when I can be sure that if selected, my application will be approved.
It may be a few months, may be 1 year or may be 2 years. It depends on when they access your income and if they request you to give further information during the process. We did see at least one that reported being refused and it happened after medical...etc.
 

nayr69sg

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It may be a few months, may be 1 year or may be 2 years. It depends on when they access your income and if they request you to give further information during the process. We did see at least one that reported being refused and it happened after medical...etc.
Too risky.

Best to try the next lottery.

I see why people advise not to apply if you dont qualify. There are bad consequences.
 

Naturgrl

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Too risky.

Best to try the next lottery.

I see why people advise not to apply if you dont qualify. There are bad consequences.
He has taken a spot of someone who would have qualified and now can’t sponsor their parents this year. Also he may never be selected for the lottery again.
 
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nayr69sg

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He has taken a spot of someone who would have qualified and now can’t sponsor their parents this year. Also he may never be selected for the lottery again.
It is designed like this.

People like it. And there are no legal basis to sue for anything.

@wickerman will probably get selected again the next lottery.
 
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wickerman

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I was talking to someone and they suggested that I file an amendment to my 2018 return, declaring a cash income of $3000 for FY 2018 - which is what I am falling short of. In that case I would be able to show 49K.

Would that be advisable?
 

YVR123

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I was talking to someone and they suggested that I file an amendment to my 2018 return, declaring a cash income of $3000 for FY 2018 - which is what I am falling short of. In that case I would be able to show 49K.

Would that be advisable?
ONLY do that if you actually get that income. Otherwise, it's tax fault and be prepared.
This "trick" is well known to IRCC and CRA.
 

wickerman

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ONLY do that if you actually get that income. Otherwise, it's tax fault and be prepared.
This "trick" is well known to IRCC and CRA.
Yeah that was my thought too. Way too obvious and potentially dangerous for me in the long term with citizenship application etc
 
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wickerman

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Refiling stating your international income before you became a PR In August doesn’t change your taxable income for 2018 or your tax resident status. This isn’t international income you made while a PR living in Canada but income when you were a non-resident and not a PR.
So just a clarification - I got my passport stamped in January 2018, and LANDED in August 2018. So is the landing date, the date you became a PR, not January when I got the COPR?
 

scylla

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I was talking to someone and they suggested that I file an amendment to my 2018 return, declaring a cash income of $3000 for FY 2018 - which is what I am falling short of. In that case I would be able to show 49K.

Would that be advisable?
Only do this if your idea of fun is a CRA full cavity search of all of your past tax returns.

Either refile and fully declare your 2018 US income - or don't refile. Don't mess around with CRA.
 

wickerman

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Only do this if your idea of fun is a CRA full cavity search of all of your past tax returns.

Either refile and fully declare your 2018 US income - or don't refile. Don't mess around with CRA.
Yeah I wouldn't risk doing this but wanted to ask. I've thought about refiling but then I wasn't a resident for that part of my 2018 pay. Is that worth it. The language on that is a little vague.
 

scylla

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Yeah I wouldn't risk doing this but wanted to ask. I've thought about refiling but then I wasn't a resident for that part of my 2018 pay. Is that worth it. The language on that is a little vague.
Sorry - I don't know.
 

Karlim1

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There is no point applying with an LOE. Refusal is guaranteed since only income in your CRA NOA will be considered.

The only thing you could feasibly do is refile your CRA return for 2018, declaring your worldwide income (i.e. refile declaring your full U.S. income in your Canadian tax return). The issues with this are timing - you're very short on time to refile before the submission deadline. Also, you'll need to be prepared to pay the additional taxes involved of course.

Hello, it is not required to declare the income you made in your country before you become a Canadian permanent resident. The law says you should declare worldwide income in you are consider a Canadian resident, which was not your case in 2018 before you move to Canada as permanent resident. Unfortunately I do not believe this will work, and not only that, if you find an accountant who will be willing to reassess your tax return only to allow you to increase your gross income in 2018, do not forget the impact it will have on the taxes you must pay to the government.
 
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